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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:40:09
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Ridiculous, honestly.
As a GW fan I'm really appalled. An utter lack of respect from someone in an official position.
While I understand most of the comments are often inflammatory towards GW, it's no excuse to have members of the company mouthing off as such.
Someone ought to call this in or something. Disgusting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:41:11
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Harriticus wrote:
GW won't care if there's a backlash by fans. They don't care about/like said people anyway.
Plus GW has no real way to get feedback from fans (and they do this deliberately). No community rep, no social media, no message boards, no anything most modern companies have today (don't bother mentioning WD). You can send angry emails if you're desperate enough, but I guarantee they get apathetically deleted instantly.
This is stupid, I can't believe that they don't have any of this.
How are they then corresponding to their customers, how is it possible that they still exists if they are not listening their customers?
Or are you telling me that because most 40k fans are Ultramarine loving children who goes WOW on every next release and who don't mind anything they release the company simply don't care as long as they are getting money from those kids?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:43:04
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Replace 'Ultra' with 'Space' and yeah, that's pretty much the picture GW have of their customer base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:44:26
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Preacher of the Emperor
At a Place, Making Dolls Great Again
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you have to send the letter within a man's skull, its the only way they'll take notice Automatically Appended Next Post: Brother Captain Alexander wrote: Harriticus wrote:
GW won't care if there's a backlash by fans. They don't care about/like said people anyway.
Plus GW has no real way to get feedback from fans (and they do this deliberately). No community rep, no social media, no message boards, no anything most modern companies have today (don't bother mentioning WD). You can send angry emails if you're desperate enough, but I guarantee they get apathetically deleted instantly.
This is stupid, I can't believe that they don't have any of this.
How are they then corresponding to their customers, how is it possible that they still exists if they are not listening their customers?
Or are you telling me that because most 40k fans are Ultramarine loving children who goes WOW on every next release and who don't mind anything they release the company simply don't care as long as they are getting money from those kids?
thats how they see it yes
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Make Dolls Great Again
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:46:24
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Executing Exarch
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Aerethan wrote:I have a full screenshot of it that I can upload here on Dakka, as well as on FB should GW decide to delete the post. It is 100% not shopped.
Please do, Im going to spam it all over GWs wall, and hopefully buddy gets canned for being a "fat nasty idiot"
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:46:41
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grimtuff wrote: Harriticus wrote: Rainbow Dash wrote: Harriticus wrote:Best insider sources on GW around here say that the management do look down on veteran hobbyists, yes. It partially explains why GW has the policies it does. Don't expect this guy to get penalized or fired, either.
yeah but perhaps vets everywhere will come down upon them in a fury of hatred and anger
not brony levels, mind you but still, it will be something interesting to watch
GW won't care if there's a backlash by fans. They don't care about/like said people anyway.
Plus GW has no real way to get feedback from fans (and they do this deliberately). No community rep, no social media, no message boards, no anything most modern companies have today (don't bother mentioning WD). You can send angry emails if you're desperate enough, but I guarantee they get apathetically deleted instantly.
This incident won't even make it to GW board meetings at any level.
It was posted on Facebook....
Someone's private Facebook, not the same as what I meant
GW doesn't want to communicate with its customer base. It's goal is to dictate what is liked/disliked.
Through all this I refer to the execs of course, who are a very different breed from the game designers and have little idea what they're actually selling. You may disagree with guys like Jervis or Kelly's rule set, but they do have a legitimate care for the hobby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:51:46
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Not very professional, but he has a point, this hobby is overflowing with whiners.
But the higher up grades in most organisations lose reality with not only the customer but with their own staff too, civil service being a perfect example - ask a Minister exactly what the low grades do, won't have a clue.
Personally I don't like that GW has people like this, though I genuinely don't believe that GW is against hobbyists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:55:02
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Oberstleutnant
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Clarence wrote:As a former employee of Games Workshop, I can tell you for sure that Mark Bolger no longer works for the company, and has not done so for over a year or so. He quit before I quit. He must not have updated his Facebook.
There is the off chance that he re-applied but I highly doubt that. GW very rarely takes back staff who quit, especially in those senior positions.
Clarence
If only GW made more than a token effort to engage with its customer base this kind of idiocy wouldn't happen. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ugavine wrote:Not very professional, but he has a point, this hobby is overflowing with whiners.
Wargaming has no more whiners than any other hobby.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:57:41
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Ugavine wrote:Not very professional, but he has a point, this hobby is overflowing with whiners.
But the higher up grades in most organisations lose reality with not only the customer but with their own staff too, civil service being a perfect example - ask a Minister exactly what the low grades do, won't have a clue.
Personally I don't like that GW has people like this, though I genuinely don't believe that GW is against hobbyists.
if a hobby has a ton of "whiners" that means a lot of people are unhappy
I look at the official GW facebook page and see a lot of anger and then the PP one and see...a lot of joy
you can't dismiss people's unhappiness, not everyone deals with it the same and will deal with it how you feel it should be dealt with
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:57:48
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Douglas Bader
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Ravenous D wrote: Peregrine wrote: Neconilis wrote:What evidence is there that this guy is actually an employee of GW, and not just your stereotypical 'peaked in high school' example of a human being?
Well, there's the fact that this happened 8-9 hours ago and GW hasn't deleted the post yet.
Or this could just be yet another example of GW incompetence in understanding that it's not 1990 anymore and the internet exists.
Go look at the recruiting thread GW posted in Dakka general, its full of mod edited posts.
So what? What does the forum mods deciding to edit posts here to avoid having a flame war have to do with GW's own online presence and how well they manage it?
Anyway, even ignoring the issue of whether GW's management really do feel this way, it's pretty embarrassing for them:
If it's just someone trolling them and pretending to be an employee then how the hell has it stayed up so long? Can you imagine a successful business NOT having a person dedicated to maintaining their social media presence and deleting inappropriate comments that might damage their image? It's pretty embarrassing ignorance of how the world works in 2012.
If it's a real employee that just makes it even worse. Even if they're just having a bad day it shows a shameful lack of concern over GW's online presence. Where are the internal rules and training about what is and isn't allowed to be posted online? How can you possibly have a high-level employee who thinks that kind of post is acceptable behavior? It's only made worse by the fact that this is supposedly a person working in marketing, who SHOULD know how to use online tools properly.
Either way GW once again seems to be stuck in 1990 and incapable of adapting to the modern world. The sooner they die the better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 23:59:39
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Peregrine wrote: Ravenous D wrote: Peregrine wrote: Neconilis wrote:What evidence is there that this guy is actually an employee of GW, and not just your stereotypical 'peaked in high school' example of a human being?
Well, there's the fact that this happened 8-9 hours ago and GW hasn't deleted the post yet.
Or this could just be yet another example of GW incompetence in understanding that it's not 1990 anymore and the internet exists.
Go look at the recruiting thread GW posted in Dakka general, its full of mod edited posts.
So what? What does the forum mods deciding to edit posts here to avoid having a flame war have to do with GW's own online presence and how well they manage it?
Anyway, even ignoring the issue of whether GW's management really do feel this way, it's pretty embarrassing for them:
If it's just someone trolling them and pretending to be an employee then how the hell has it stayed up so long? Can you imagine a successful business NOT having a person dedicated to maintaining their social media presence and deleting inappropriate comments that might damage their image? It's pretty embarrassing ignorance of how the world works in 2012.
If it's a real employee that just makes it even worse. Even if they're just having a bad day it shows a shameful lack of concern over GW's online presence. Where are the internal rules and training about what is and isn't allowed to be posted online? How can you possibly have a high-level employee who thinks that kind of post is acceptable behavior? It's only made worse by the fact that this is supposedly a person working in marketing, who SHOULD know how to use online tools properly.
Either way GW once again seems to be stuck in 1990 and incapable of adapting to the modern world. The sooner they die the better.
this might be the beginning of that domino effect...
gotta start somewhere
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:01:23
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Yes it will be for the better when they fall apart. Their IP will be bought out so it won't disappear either
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:04:44
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just got word from a friend of mine who is a current store manager in Toronto, Mark Bolger hasn't worked for GW in over a year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:05:31
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Harriticus wrote:
Someone's private Facebook, not the same as what I meant
GW doesn't want to communicate with its customer base. It's goal is to dictate what is liked/disliked.
Through all this I refer to the execs of course, who are a very different breed from the game designers and have little idea what they're actually selling. You may disagree with guys like Jervis or Kelly's rule set, but they do have a legitimate care for the hobby.
So if 'Jervis Johnson' (demonstrably THE Jervis Johnson) posted that, you'd have no issue?
A personal opinion of someone associated with a company should remain that - personal. Posting it on GW's public FB page (not a private page or private conversation) is foolish.
The only viable explanation (actually excuse) I can see is that this guy is coincidentally named and is having a laugh at GW's expense. Seems like a lot of trouble for a troll, though.
'Manager for Growth' does sound like an executive position to me though. I'd have expected a little more sense.
Edit: (see above post) So, a troll. Given the damage this causes GW's reputation, is defaming a company on the internet while claiming to be an employee of said company libel? Or is it slander (I can never distinguish the two)? I smell the legal teams moving into position...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:08:40
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Manager of Growth?
Delicious!
But yeah, this is a big Customer Service 101 fail here.
But God-damn it Dash, would it kill you to find your shift key?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:10:19
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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winterdyne wrote: Harriticus wrote:
Someone's private Facebook, not the same as what I meant
GW doesn't want to communicate with its customer base. It's goal is to dictate what is liked/disliked.
Through all this I refer to the execs of course, who are a very different breed from the game designers and have little idea what they're actually selling. You may disagree with guys like Jervis or Kelly's rule set, but they do have a legitimate care for the hobby.
So if 'Jervis Johnson' (demonstrably THE Jervis Johnson) posted that, you'd have no issue?
A personal opinion of someone associated with a company should remain that - personal. Posting it on GW's public FB page (not a private page or private conversation) is foolish.
The only viable explanation (actually excuse) I can see is that this guy is coincidentally named and is having a laugh at GW's expense. Seems like a lot of trouble for a troll, though.
'Manager for Growth' does sound like an executive position to me though. I'd have expected a little more sense.
Edit: (see above post) So, a troll. Given the damage this causes GW's reputation, is defaming a company on the internet while claiming to be an employee of said company libel? Or is it slander (I can never distinguish the two)? I smell the legal teams moving into position...
If Johnson said it, my opinion of him would be wrong.my whole point is the game designers don't think that kind of stuff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:14:46
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Clarence wrote:As a former employee of Games Workshop, I can tell you for sure that Mark Bolger no longer works for the company, and has not done so for over a year or so. He quit before I quit. He must not have updated his Facebook.
There is the off chance that he re-applied but I highly doubt that. GW very rarely takes back staff who quit, especially in those senior positions.
Clarence
Everybody who posted AFTER this post read this right? he's not an employee...so he doesn't speak for GW, he speaks for himself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:16:10
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Clarence wrote:Just got word from a friend of mine who is a current store manager in Toronto, Mark Bolger hasn't worked for GW in over a year.
Are you sure, because it says not only on his Facebook profile, but also his Linkedin profile, and several other online resume websites that he is currently working for GW. Not to mention several directories still list him as working for GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:16:35
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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almostreal wrote:Everybody who posted AFTER this post read this right? he's not an employee...so he doesn't speak for GW, he speaks for himself.
It's still GW incompetence. A company that realizes it's 2013 and the internet exists would have deleted that post soon after it was made and avoided this whole situation. The fact that GW leaves an official facebook page open to that kind of trolling is impressive incompetence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:16:56
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Manager of Growth?
Delicious!
But yeah, this is a big Customer Service 101 fail here.
But God-damn it Dash, would it kill you to find your shift key?
Yeah typing like that is quite hard on a phone and a waste of time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:17:41
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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almostreal wrote:Clarence wrote:As a former employee of Games Workshop, I can tell you for sure that Mark Bolger no longer works for the company, and has not done so for over a year or so. He quit before I quit. He must not have updated his Facebook.
There is the off chance that he re-applied but I highly doubt that. GW very rarely takes back staff who quit, especially in those senior positions.
Clarence
Everybody who posted AFTER this post read this right? he's not an employee...so he doesn't speak for GW, he speaks for himself.
Eh, something about a former employee saying someone isn't a current employee?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:17:57
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:19:08
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Peregrine wrote:almostreal wrote:Everybody who posted AFTER this post read this right? he's not an employee...so he doesn't speak for GW, he speaks for himself.
It's still GW incompetence. A company that realizes it's 2013 and the internet exists would have deleted that post soon after it was made and avoided this whole situation. The fact that GW leaves an official facebook page open to that kind of trolling is impressive incompetence.
So now it's GW's fault somebody they don't employ says something? lol...you guys are funny. Basically this is just a "I hate GW" thread then...the title or the original OP be damned, GW is bad bad bad and you guys DONT LIKE IT!!!
comeon' there are lots of great things about the hobby, truly...if you hate something...don't focus on it. I don't understand why all this dakka hate, wait until Bolger get a hold of you!!! haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:19:43
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Mattman154 wrote:almostreal wrote:Clarence wrote:As a former employee of Games Workshop, I can tell you for sure that Mark Bolger no longer works for the company, and has not done so for over a year or so. He quit before I quit. He must not have updated his Facebook.
There is the off chance that he re-applied but I highly doubt that. GW very rarely takes back staff who quit, especially in those senior positions.
Clarence
Everybody who posted AFTER this post read this right? he's not an employee...so he doesn't speak for GW, he speaks for himself.
Eh, something about a former employee saying someone isn't a current employee?
As I've said, a quick google search still shows him being listed as a current employee of GW on a lot of websites. I'd take that over the random quote of someone who is supposedly the friend of a guy who supposedly happens to work at a GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:21:39
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almostreal wrote:So now it's GW's fault somebody they don't employ says something? lol...you guys are funny. Basically this is just a "I hate GW" thread then...the title or the original OP be damned, GW is bad bad bad and you guys DONT LIKE IT!!!
Sorry, but the fact that a post from a former (or, worse, current) employee that essentially "customers, you suck, stop buying this stuff" is allowed to remain for at least 8-9 hours IS incompetence. A company of GW's size that understands the importance of social media in the modern world is going to have someone monitoring their official facebook presence and deleting posts like that. The fact that GW doesn't seem to think it's an important issue just shows that they're stuck in 1990.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:21:53
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Fafnir wrote:Clarence wrote:Just got word from a friend of mine who is a current store manager in Toronto, Mark Bolger hasn't worked for GW in over a year.
Are you sure, because it says not only on his Facebook profile, but also his Linkedin profile, and several other online resume websites that he is currently working for GW. Not to mention several directories still list him as working for GW.
I'm as sure as I can be. I'm still close friends with many GW staff, including my old Director for Growth. I literally just asked a GW store manager who's been with the company for over 5 years. But believe what you will. Facebook says it so it must be true, right?
Fafnir, why don't you call GW customer service and ask them if Mark Bolger is still employed with GW. Here's the number.
1-800-394-4263
As a former executive he was fairly well known. If for whatever reason the guy doesn't know, ask for Dave Swann, the customer service manager. He would know for sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:22:34
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Aye, but he doesn't work for GW, apparently. GW should probably make that clear though. More likely they'll simply remove the offending post(s) and make believe it never happened.
Worrying that a significant portion of the customer base would (almost, well sorta) believe that a GW exec would say something like that, even if there was disbelief it'd be done on a public forum like Facebook.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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Even if he no longer works for GW, it shows an attitude that one would not want the manager of growth to possess, no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:24:22
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Clarence wrote: Fafnir wrote:Clarence wrote:Just got word from a friend of mine who is a current store manager in Toronto, Mark Bolger hasn't worked for GW in over a year.
Are you sure, because it says not only on his Facebook profile, but also his Linkedin profile, and several other online resume websites that he is currently working for GW. Not to mention several directories still list him as working for GW.
I'm as sure as I can be. I'm still close friends with many GW staff, including my old Director for Growth. I literally just asked a GW store manager who's been with the company for over 5 years. But believe what you will. Facebook says it so it must be true, right?
It's currently a toss up between several resume sites, and some stranger on the internet.
Regardless of whether or not you have the contacts you say you have, until you can prove it you shouldn't be surprised to find that people aren't quick to believe you.
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Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 00:25:03
Subject: Do people higher up GW hate us hobbyists?
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Peregrine wrote:almostreal wrote:So now it's GW's fault somebody they don't employ says something? lol...you guys are funny. Basically this is just a "I hate GW" thread then...the title or the original OP be damned, GW is bad bad bad and you guys DONT LIKE IT!!!
Sorry, but the fact that a post from a former (or, worse, current) employee that essentially "customers, you suck, stop buying this stuff" is allowed to remain for at least 8-9 hours IS incompetence. A company of GW's size that understands the importance of social media in the modern world is going to have someone monitoring their official facebook presence and deleting posts like that. The fact that GW doesn't seem to think it's an important issue just shows that they're stuck in 1990.
man, that's ridiculous. So GW needs to have a full time employee working all hours monitoring and censoring their facebook page or it's incompetence? let's be honest...when they delete it, or if they just deleted negative comments in general you'd be upset about their "censorship". I've met dozens of GW employees and some of the higher ups on both in stores and at games day 2 years ago. They don't hate us...they DO want all of our money and are pretty greedy...but there is not a corporate culture to crap on veteran hobbyists or anybody.
It seems like, from this messageboard, most of the hate and disdain is coming from the customers...not the other way around.
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