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Well you could train all those pokemon to level 100 or you could watch an old guy catch a caterpillar and get free candy.

I've got hacked off with Mortal Kombat vs DC. It was such a poor game online it was untrue.
You'd be having fun and then the other guy would be superman and do the floor double punch move so you auto fall over.. Then just spam it so you couldn't ever get up. Ooh look, he's almost auto won.
I've no qualms about losing on a game, but that?
EG: I fought one guy - He beat the snot out of me 6 times in a row - normally. I really enjoyed it, even though I lost. It was fun to see what he could do.
Although - a friend was on it being sub-zero and fighting the flash (online)
The flash knew about 2 moves and my friend wasn't great, so he got spam attacked and lost the first round. I took over - I'm not great, but I could avoid the flashmove spam, so I got a perfect.
Halfway through the next round, on my way to a perfect, the guy quit.

Would've been such a fun game for me, but for people abusing spam moves online. Sold it now, I hope I never play another cross over fighting game.

I know there's a Skyrim one with that Book of Knowledge where you can put it on a bookshelf without reading it, take it off the bookshelf to read, then put it back. Rinse and repeat, you're now lvl100 in everything. That and horses can climb mountains - which is stupidly useful when you can't be assed to fin the path up a mountain

A good example of why glitches/exploits in multiplayer are BS is Crossfire. Lots of crate glitching in the Mutation mode and that bunnyhop trick for the Ghosts on the C&D mode.

They fixed that bug I think...

 purplefood wrote:
They fixed that bug I think...

The Skyrim bug? If so you can still get around the update on some systems. For the 360 if you clear the cache or manually delete the update you can exploit the bug (it just means that you can't connect to LIVE while doing it).

It seems like RPGs are more prone to glitches that other games. I know that Fallout NV had a lot of glitches were talking to one person over and over could gain infinite XP, or you could buy casino chips and turn them in but you would get the money and keep the chips (possible infinite cash).

 purplefood wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Hell sometimes it seemed like you HAD to use glitches on the hard modes of L4D.

Fairly sure it was near impossible otherwise unless you had a very well coordinated team

I managed every campaign on insanity except for dead air without exploits (I never got dead air from start to finish on insanity(wait, was it "insanity" or "hardcore"? It's been so long I can't remember...)). It took an ungodly amount of time, and the best players I could find (my steam friends list consisted almost entirely of good l4d players I found while playing pubs at the very beginning). Did I mention how horrifically long it took? Of course, I seem to recall playing them for fun afterwards/helping other people complete them on insanity, so it's not like it wasn't fun, just frustrating and time consuming.

It was Expert.
It was pretty possible with a good team and if you knew what to do and how to react as a team.
The Finale's on the other hand were near impossible without exploits/glitches.
Dead Air had an interesting one...

 purplefood wrote:
It was Expert.

Thanks, everybody calls their own hardest difficulty something else.

It was pretty possible with a good team and if you knew what to do and how to react as a team.
The Finale's on the other hand were near impossible without exploits/glitches.
Dead Air had an interesting one...

Yeah, a good team and a good place to hole up for the finale was essential. That sense of camaraderie and commiseration you got playing expert with a good team was really something. And then everyone starts killing each other. Several times. Never bothered with the sequel; didn't like the characters, didn't like the mechanics changes.

What was dead air's exploit? I later played death toll with the rock trick (I joined for the last couple of levels that time around to help some people complete it for the relevant achievement), and in no mercy and blood harvest we just took cover in a confined space, and near instakilled the tanks with focused autoshotty spam.

You could get onto the top of the plane on Dead AIr and if you just kept hitting each other a smoker couldn't grab you so you just stayed there until the end when you jumped off and ran into the plane.
Blood Harvest you could do without fighting tanks though they have probably fixed it...

 purplefood wrote:
They fixed that bug I think...

I'm personally not sure - my Brother found it on the PS3 version of Skyrim so it might be patched on the PC version. I'll have to test it out.

orkdestroyer1 wrote:
Another glitch for COD zombies...the call of the dead flying glitch/get into the lighthouse without opening the door....I watched a video by therelaxingend (one of the best zombie players ever) and he was trolling a 32 year old glitcher in call of the dead..for example when the glitcher got into the lighthouse for free...he opened the door and when the glicher had a crawler...he shot it..on the end the glicher ended the game.

Dude you really need to work on your english, I can barely understand half your posts.

I only see 1 bit of mis-spelling where I put 'on' instead of 'in'...so your post is invalid

orkdestroyer1 wrote:
I only see 1 bit of mis-spelling where I put 'on' instead of 'in'...so your post is invalid

He's not talking about your spelling, but the way you organize your speech.


The skyrim thread reminded me of all those hilarious exploits in morrowind: the wonderfully broken alchemy, the spell to regenerate magicka, one second jump spells as a means of ridiculously fast travel (and jumping from the mainland to solstheim in one giant leap .)...

I only abuse useful fun things. When I used to play a lot of Thief, Tomb Raider and Deus Ex, I was always trying to go places you're not supposed to on the map, climbing up buildings and trying to break the game in a variety of ways. If you've not climbed up to the top of Angelwatch in Thief 2 by stacking all the crates in the level, you've not lived.

Exploits for extra health and the like are a bit dull, and exploits in multiplayer is just cheating.

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

orkdestroyer1 wrote:
I only see 1 bit of mis-spelling where I put 'on' instead of 'in'...so your post is invalid

He's not talking about your spelling, but the way you organize your speech.


The skyrim thread reminded me of all those hilarious exploits in morrowind: the wonderfully broken alchemy, the spell to regenerate magicka, one second jump spells as a means of ridiculously fast travel (and jumping from the mainland to solstheim in one giant leap .)...

It's all CHIM mate.

With Big Rigs Over The Road Racing, a game which makes me very sad to call myself a PC gamer (although I still use my PS3 and Xbox) it is impossible to play the game without using glitches, as the game is one big glitch. No collision data, infinite reversing speed, and an opponent who cannot move. In fact, a mod was released for it to allow the opponent to move, albeit slowly. Unfortunately, if the opponent actually wins, then the game crashes, as there is no data for what should happen if you lose!

It really depends, to be honest.

I'm NOT okay with people exploiting glitches in any game where there is competitive PVP multiplayer (Halo or Call of Duty, for example), or in certain games with co-op multiplayer.

Now, how you qualify "certain games" is really subjective. For instance, in Mass Effect 3, it's bad form to glitch credits or experience because there are leaderboards based on N7 number, and credits are used to unlock weapons that real money can be spent on.

But on the other hand Borderlands 2 gets exceedingly tedious if you DON'T use glitches. The drop rates on most legendary items are so low that it would take an extremely unrealistic amount of time farming the same boss over and over to acquire them. In that case, I have no problem with exploiting glitches that let you quickly access a treasure room to increase drop rates, or duplicate items between people. I shouldn't have to spend thousands of man-hours farming for items and potentially never see them. I also could care less about XP farming because even if you hit 50 with a glitch, you still have to play through the game twice in order to access the level 50 content. Once you've played the story 5-6 times, it starts to get really old and you just want to get the rest of your characters to 50 so you can do the DLC at a level where it's actually challenging.

In single player mode, I really don't care at all. Play the game the way you want to play it. I use an honor system and I try to legitimately complete as many aspects of the game as I can before using "cheats" for anything, but I'm not above using God Mode to blow through content I've already completed in order to get to the thing I want.

Basically, if it saves you from having to suffer through repetitive gameplay you've already mastered, it's all good, but if it lets you bypass challenges in the game that legit skill could help you overcome, or if it lets you gain advantage over other players in PVP online, I'm not cool with it.