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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/22 23:06:19
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Cyporiean wrote:
You troll mantic threads enough, you should have caught wind of the basing style by now.
As said, I don't follow Mantic threads too much and am not interested in the game (only some sculpts). If official pics show round bases, how should I know then, that Mantic is misinformed and not me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/23 00:00:25
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Actually, I believe you did say something nice about some Mantic minis in a thread a while ago! I forget what though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/23 00:05:54
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Mantic is misinformed and not me.
^ FYI, production sculpts of restic minis are sculpted at slightly larger than the final size to account for shrinkage, so the painted masters probably don't fit in the hex bases which is probably why the hex bases aren't pictured there.
Or aesthetic reasons where the photographer decided it'd look better with more focus on the minis rather than shiny bases detracting from the shot.
But you know, feel free to carry on as you were, I'm very happy to continue to have very good reasons to view 100% of your posts as uninformed rants about minutiae.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/23 10:20:52
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Pacific wrote:Actually, I believe you did say something nice about some Mantic minis in a thread a while ago! I forget what though 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/23 10:56:46
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Dakka Veteran
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I really hope some of these teams make the jump to warpath. Those robots are quite delicious. Dreadball really shows the way they need to take warpath with the armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 04:45:30
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
E. City, NC
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I really just wanna see the bug finished product. Automatically Appended Next Post: And does anyone know if there will be like a small rules insert in with the new teams so we aren't forced to buy a season 2 rulebook?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/25 04:37:35
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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If you pledged in the kickstarter, you'll get a pdf. Otherwise...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 21:19:18
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
E. City, NC
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I'm in the otherwise category. I hope paying through the nose isn't gonna be the way of things if you didn't happen to stumble upon the kickstarter. I don't really feel I should have to buy a new rulebook every 4 months just to pay a new team upon release
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/27 11:36:12
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's a whole £10 for a book with four teams and all nine mvps plus all of the other stuff... its not really a massive amount of money for what you get. i'd be surprised if the stats weren't in the box but i suspect if theres new special rules they might struggle to get them all on...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/27 13:18:01
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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That's more than the Malifaux rulebook. For Americans, with our decreasing purchasing power, stagnant wages and rising cost of living, anything with a pound sign in front of it is intimidatingly expensive.
I'm not sure how much of that is joking, actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/27 13:47:44
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:That's more than the Malifaux rulebook. For Americans, with our decreasing purchasing power, stagnant wages and rising cost of living, anything with a pound sign in front of it is intimidatingly expensive.
I'm not sure how much of that is joking, actually.
The Malifaux 1.5 book is $35, £10 is about $15.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/27 15:20:33
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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But the mini rulebook is $12.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/27 15:22:43
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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$15. I'd forgotten it existed since I don't play Malifaux.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 20:42:36
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Got a Happy Easter newsletter with Orx vs Judwan shown
so the judwan didn't get a resculpt (I'm happy coz I liked them, many KS backers may not be as the sculpt shown wasn't popular)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 20:48:54
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Bigger picture:
Love the background for these guys, but the sculpts aren't my favourites, they seem a bit stiff.
Other than the running guy, you don't really get a sense of what it is that they're trying to do on the field..I'm not sure what the both arms outstretched, one bent, one straight while standing static and facing forwards pose would be used for on the pitch.
With a team of 100% strikers that are super-fast, you'd expect a big sense of motion from the models with pretty much all of them running or in some kind of super-dynamic stretched-out alien pose. Deciding that most of the models should have static posing was the main error here I think.
It's also possible that the concept art on these simply doesn't translate well to 3d... I think the thin cylindrical stomachs combined with the bulked out heavy armour on the chests are the main thing that seems odd... the heavy armour is at odds with the rest of the sculpt.
I do absolutely love the robots and female corp though, and am really looking forward to the Zz'or.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 21:25:05
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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So yet again... The Greens had issues with the feet and the pose... and they said 'Do not worry, we will fix it. The pose will be flat-footed and standing'
And gosh, the feet are still messed up, the pose is like he just got punched in the chest and falling on his ass. Exactly like the greens. His toes are up in the air!
I feel like everything I see from Mantic is they don't take feedback, and because of multiple rounds of ignoring feedback, they don't share WIPs anymore.
If they were not going to resculpt... SAY IT. Accept some people don't like a sculpt. Don't pander by saying it will be fixed or WIP and then do nothing.
So the lesson is wait until the final product for all Mantic models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 22:22:23
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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scarletsquig wrote:Other than the running guy, you don't really get a sense of what it is that they're trying to do on the field..I'm not sure what the both arms outstretched, one bent, one straight while standing static and facing forwards pose would be used for on the pitch.
With a team of 100% strikers that are super-fast, you'd expect a big sense of motion from the models with pretty much all of them running or in some kind of super-dynamic stretched-out alien pose. Deciding that most of the models should have static posing was the main error here I think.
Wasn't me who posted this
Actually, those sculpts work for me, as Tau Air Caste organising an evacuation by shuttle.
It is even okay that the "runner" has no proper running pose, as I use him to mount a hovering shuttle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 22:23:48
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I guess I can understand the complaints about the posing. Although, they still really do look fine to me. - I definitely see myself taking them for the occasional spin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 23:02:14
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I don't mind them... not a homerun, though.
Mantic is still inconsistent enough that I don't think I could back anything of theirs based off of concept art... except the Nameless team which I did because, hey, tentacled aliens
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 01:58:50
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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scarletsquig wrote:Bigger picture:
Love the background for these guys, but the sculpts aren't my favourites, they seem a bit stiff.
Other than the running guy, you don't really get a sense of what it is that they're trying to do on the field..I'm not sure what the both arms outstretched, one bent, one straight while standing static and facing forwards pose would be used for on the pitch.
With a team of 100% strikers that are super-fast, you'd expect a big sense of motion from the models with pretty much all of them running or in some kind of super-dynamic stretched-out alien pose. Deciding that most of the models should have static posing was the main error here I think.
The problem is with the Mantic style of basing. A small circle that fits into a slightly bigger circle. Slotta-type figures would give all of their ranges much more freedom of foot-movement and posing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 10:33:13
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Interesting point Azazelx (is that really you Scipio?  What happened to the other log-in?)
As ScarletSquig says I think they would definitely have benefited from some more dynamic posing. That being said I don't think they are bad, but I definitely prefer the new Bots and female corp team.
Really starting to like some of the new stuff coming out for Dreadball, the style and design aesthetic they are using is really cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 13:33:54
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Pacific wrote:As ScarletSquig says I think they would definitely have benefited from some more dynamic posing. That being said I don't think they are bad, but I definitely prefer the new Bots and female corp team.
Really starting to like some of the new stuff coming out for Dreadball, the style and design aesthetic they are using is really cool.
Yeah, I agree! On all counts. Definitely looking forward to my Nameless later in the year
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 13:46:40
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Calculating Commissar
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nkelsch wrote:If they were not going to resculpt... SAY IT. Accept some people don't like a sculpt. Don't pander by saying it will be fixed or WIP and then do nothing.
So the lesson is wait until the final product for all Mantic models.
It seems that Mantic's just saying whatever they think the crowd wants to hear, then blundering on regardless. I'm guessing they will move further towards a GW-like publicity policy, going from a conversation to a marketing declaration.If so, it's high time to abandon that particular ship.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 06:51:49
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Pacific wrote:Interesting point Azazelx (is that really you Scipio?  What happened to the other log-in?)
Yeah, just renamed this account (which is over 8 years old) to match up better with my accounts on other forums, and more importantly my blog where I have painted minis and so on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 08:33:58
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
E. City, NC
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If you guys haven't played the game yet, they have to watch the sculpts that they don't stick out too far. I'm guessing these aren't overly dynamic as to not bump into all the other players. There was some better positions I think they could have done, but then again I have NO interest playing an all striker team.
My biggest issue is why didn't they do 4 sculpts versus three. They don't have positions, so why not make them more varied in appearance? I understand non posable due to needing to know what position they play, but for teams like the Judawan and the rats, they could have opened up the posed a little more.
Oh well. Hopefully the game is around long enough for them to redo some of these teams. So far the Humans and Forge Fathers are the only two that look great IMHO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 16:22:02
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Agamemnon2 wrote: I'm guessing they will move further towards a GW-like publicity policy, going from a conversation to a marketing declaration.If so, it's high time to abandon that particular ship.
took me a while to realize this was satire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 15:37:26
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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My biggest issue is why didn't they do 4 sculpts versus three. They don't have positions, so why not make them more varied in appearance? I understand non posable due to needing to know what position they play, but for teams like the Judawan and the rats, they could have opened up the posed a little more.
'spect they'll get alternate sculpts like the other teams whent he time is Right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/04 13:14:40
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Zealous Knight
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/04 15:00:22
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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those look badass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/04 15:02:18
Subject: Mantic Dreadball News and Rumours thread.
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Wow...those Zz'or are AMAZING! I can't wait for mine to arrive.
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