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I thought all of the ones we got were the Warpath ones?

Maybe I misremembered.

Yeah, most of the head detail was soft on the enforcers. Maybe it is just a design problem.

 pretre wrote:
I thought all of the ones we got were the Warpath ones?

Maybe I misremembered.

Yeah, most of the head detail was soft on the enforcers. Maybe it is just a design problem.

Yeah, almost all of my enforcers have soft detail on the heads. The engineer (the dude kneeling down) has some really soft detail on his piece of equipment in his left hand... it looks like a flat bit of plastic on mine.

Ditto Alf.. it took me a tick to figure out what it was; the same with the rebel lady.

All the specialists (engineer and his remote control trucks, sniper, AT missile dude, terminator armor dude) were made for Deadzone as far as I know. Only the 5 others are older Warpath ones.

Though I've been wrong more than once...

1) Glue Right arm
2) Dry fit Left arm and Gun (this is usually quite snug)
3) Glue Left Arm
4) Leave gun off for painting (optional)
5) Glue gun into place.

There are three sets of arms; one pair for the burst laser, and two of each other pair. Basically one with the gun held lowered, and one with it raised.

Complaints about assembling the restic enforcers?

Try the hybrid metal assault enforcers if you want Mantic's most infuriating model kit ever:



Yes, those really are two separate and tiny metal upper arm and metal hands.

*This* is what Mantic produces when it can't use kickstarter to fund production.

Man, and you thought mold lines/flash were bad on the Restic.

Interesting blog post:

http://manticblog.com/2014/01/07/looking-back-and-looking-forward-again/

In short, yearly tournament packs (more info on the 2014 one tommorow) and new minis for Dreadball as ongoing support for the game, not kickstarter-funded.

Dreadball Xtreme coming soon.

Some stuff about the plague zombie sprue coming very soon and a re-iteration of the "need good hard plastics in place before we touch warpath" thing.

So Dreadball Extreme KS is end of Feb beginning of March according to the blog. Be interesting to see tomorrows blog we already know Brokkr team and convicts are coming and Yndij have been heavily hinted at.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Complaints about assembling the restic enforcers?

Try the hybrid metal assault enforcers if you want Mantic's most infuriating model kit ever:

Spoiler:

Yes, those really are two separate and tiny metal upper arm and metal hands.

*This* is what Mantic produces when it can't use kickstarter to fund production.

I didn't find those particularly difficult to assemble. The metal is as soft or softer than the lead-based alloys that were in use before the introduction of the adamantium-pewter alloy that GW used. Drill and pin worked wonders.

Sounds like building these guys is going to be a blast!



Anyway, anyone know when I can expect to hear back from Mantic RE: my missing objects?

Good question!

I sent my list of missing things in a while ago, and haven't heard a peep back yet.

They will send it once you have painted each and every model and piece of terrain they sent the first time round. In my case this would mean several years before it arrives...

 CptJake wrote:
I did one arm (the right/trigger hand) and once it set, did the left (forestock) arm and weapon at the same time. I was using Plastruct Plastic Weld so had a little working time.

How well does that work with restic and PP plastic? I've boon looking for a glue that will work with those media while giving me time to attach arms, guns and bling before completely setting.

 agnosto wrote:

I guess I'll just keep waiting for some company to come along that will be reasonably priced, decent quality and believe in hard plastic. Really, I've got a pocket full of money to throw at any company that doesn't think $8/mini is a good price. I thought it would be Mantic but they seem stuck on restic for the now.

Wargames Factory...and all of their client companies. They make good stuff (now).

Also, Reaper's Bones material is much, much easier for 'noobs' to work with than restic, and the detail is about the same. I can't wait to see how Mars Attacks minis compare. After Sedition Wars, PP, and KoW, I friggin' hate restic.

 Alpharius wrote:
Good question!

I sent my list of missing things in a while ago, and haven't heard a peep back yet.

They'll get around to it real soon. They've just got a Kickstarter to prepare/run/ship/prepare/run/ship/prepare/run/ship before they can get onto it...

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I did one arm (the right/trigger hand) and once it set, did the left (forestock) arm and weapon at the same time. I was using Plastruct Plastic Weld so had a little working time.

How well does that work with restic and PP plastic? I've boon looking for a glue that will work with those media while giving me time to attach arms, guns and bling before completely setting.

I'm happy with it. It is different than using Tamiya glue on styrene models in that it seems to have a longer cure time, and on this restic stuff it does not 'grab' as quickly so you need to hold the pieces you are gluing together for up to 30 seconds. It does not seem to melt the restic as quickly as my Tamiya glue does to styrene. The bottle recommends allowing 24 hours to fully cure, and after that time even the fiddly figures have passed my drop test (held at shoulder height over the hard wood floor and dropped). If you apply pressure to the join before it is fully cured to do risk it coming apart. This means in my example above, the right arm was allowed to cure over night before attempting to attach the gun and left arm. I tried after a couple of hours and pulled the right arm off by accident. Once assembled and cured, the join seems as close to permanent as I've ever seen. None of the brittleness that CA glued joins seem to have.

The fumes are a little hefty. Working in a decently ventilated area is a good idea. The brush applicator works well. The preferred application method according to the bottle is to hold the two pieces to be joined together and brushing the join with the solvent. Capillary action then draws it into the join. Hold the two (or more) pieces together for a few seconds and set aside to cure.

I have only used it on this Mantic stuff.

Jake

 CptJake wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
I did one arm (the right/trigger hand) and once it set, did the left (forestock) arm and weapon at the same time. I was using Plastruct Plastic Weld so had a little working time.

How well does that work with restic and PP plastic? I've boon looking for a glue that will work with those media while giving me time to attach arms, guns and bling before completely setting.

I'm happy with it. It is different than using Tamiya glue on styrene models in that it seems to have a longer cure time, and on this restic stuff it does not 'grab' as quickly so you need to hold the pieces you are gluing together for up to 30 seconds. It does not seem to melt the restic as quickly as my Tamiya glue does to styrene. The bottle recommends allowing 24 hours to fully cure, and after that time even the fiddly figures have passed my drop test (held at shoulder height over the hard wood floor and dropped). If you apply pressure to the join before it is fully cured to do risk it coming apart. This means in my example above, the right arm was allowed to cure over night before attempting to attach the gun and left arm. I tried after a couple of hours and pulled the right arm off by accident. Once assembled and cured, the join seems as close to permanent as I've ever seen. None of the brittleness that CA glued joins seem to have.

The fumes are a little hefty. Working in a decently ventilated area is a good idea. The brush applicator works well. The preferred application method according to the bottle is to hold the two pieces to be joined together and brushing the join with the solvent. Capillary action then draws it into the join. Hold the two (or more) pieces together for a few seconds and set aside to cure.

I have only used it on this Mantic stuff.

Jake

I had no idea. I use Plaststruct Plasticweld for my normal plastic models and superglue for restic/pvc. This opens up a whole new world for me. Thanks man!

The Azure Forest Dreadball pack is now up for preorder limited to 3000 sets only ships 27th January

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/dreadball/product/galactic-tour-series-azure-forest.html?Action=Cookie



£14.99

CONTENTS

This set contains a 32 page rulebook, 14 new DreadBall cards, the new MVP A’teo “The Savage” Adysi and the Azure Forest Trophy – everything you need to adapt your games of DreadBall!
Including:
32-page rulebook
14 DreadBall cards
Metal MVP A’teo Adysi
Metal Azure Forest Trophy

More info on the blog

So my first Yndij (from the christmas box of course) went together no problems. This Sorak, however, needed what I would term "hot water surgery". The both-arms-are-attached-to-the-gun-so-you-better-pray style weapon arms needed bent pretty well at both wrists. The gun itself may be just a tad deformed but it's at the point that I'm not sure so from 3 feet away I don't think it'll show (if its even there). Still going to have to glue the arms with a bit of pressure against the bond, and use a teeny bit of greenstuff.

Of course, at the rate I intend to go through these guys, a little extra work isn't a huge deal. I would hate to do it to blocks and blobs of infantry, but on even a high percentage of a 5-10 man team I'm not too concerned.

 DaveC wrote:
The Azure Forest Dreadball pack is now up for preorder limited to 3000 sets only ships 27th January
...More info on the blog

Looks cool. Thanks for sharing that.

I really like the overall idea of small expansions like this.
Also must compliment them on a non-KS item.
The limited edition aspect isn't my favorite.

I suspect rather than it being a limited edition they are just being honest and saying it's a limited pre-order of 3000 as that's all they've got coming in from the factory

if it bombs that will indeed be it (but you'll be able to get it as nobody else has wanted one),

but if they sell out they'll order another bunch

The blog entry suggests otherwise

This is a limited edition release – we’re going to make 3000 copies, after which it will only be available digitally, so get clicking now if you want to make sure you get a copy!

It's possible the MVP will be available on it's own later but I'd say they did one minimum order print run and that's will be it unless it's very popular there's something like 10,000 copies of Dreadball in gamers hands so 30% of that should cover everyone who wants a copy and keeps up to date with all the latest releases.

It probably is pretty difficlult to get 30% of your player base to buy an expansion, but I HATE the idea of limited releases. It's so GW. I hope this doesn't turn into a trend for Mantic as well.

Based on responses from James on the Mantic forum it looks like after it sells out (however long that may take):
Cards & MVP stay available separately
Rules available digitally
Trophy goes the way of the dodo

I'm also against game content not being generally available, but I could live with the above scenario.

I think as long as the trophy is the only limited thing, that's fine.

I've been wondering if we'll see any Deadzone stat cards for the up and coming Dreadball stuff. It might be fun to just have those convicts run wild against a Plague infestation. I'd imagine they'd be some pretty rough and tumble scrappers when the action gets up close and personal.

Worst case I could try coming up with stats myself I guess.

I kinda like the idea of an annual pack, it shows that Mantic are really in it for the long haul and Dreadball will be getting something fresh every single year for as long as Mantic are around, and it'll be a new way to play the game + tournament support focused.

Yeah... if I had dread ball stuff... like all of it or more than the base game at least.. I'd probably not mind spending $25 a year to get new cards and an extra MVP thingy. If they do something like that for deadzone I'll be on board for sure. Even if its a whole new team or bz type.

Dreadball is 100 on my list of games I will eventually pick up. I like the sound of annual updates too.

 carlos13th wrote:
Dreadball is 100 on my list of games I will eventually pick up. I like the sound of annual updates too.

What are games 1 through 99 on that list?

 DaveC wrote:
The Azure Forest Dreadball pack is now up for preorder limited to 3000 sets only ships 27th January

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/dreadball/product/galactic-tour-series-azure-forest.html?Action=Cookie



£14.99

CONTENTS

This set contains a 32 page rulebook, 14 new DreadBall cards, the new MVP A’teo “The Savage” Adysi and the Azure Forest Trophy – everything you need to adapt your games of DreadBall!
Including:
32-page rulebook
14 DreadBall cards
Metal MVP A’teo Adysi
Metal Azure Forest Trophy

More info on the blog

Is it going out through retailers as well, or just direct from Mantic? It's much easier to order from other online UK retailers due to shipping.