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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 17:49:05
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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GrimDork wrote:Yeah +1 character bits. And versatile sprues, if they could just moderately expand the marines sprue to incorporate vets and rangers as well, and do that across the factions.
It would probably be easier in the long run to make veteran and ranger 'half sprues' and chuck one in with a marine sprue for those units. That way you don't lose space/options on the marine sprue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 17:59:22
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sounds good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 18:47:10
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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That wouldn't be a bad deal. The renedra sprues worked that way, they cut off half the dwarf hand gunner sprue and stuck the SciFi bits on there for steel warriors.
I wanna see some tanks. And scout vehicles too. Air/space craft if it blows up stupid huge, or not, don't really care for flying things too much, more interested in potentially hovering tanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:18:30
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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CptJake wrote: GrimDork wrote:Yeah +1 character bits. And versatile sprues, if they could just moderately expand the marines sprue to incorporate vets and rangers as well, and do that across the factions.
It would probably be easier in the long run to make veteran and ranger 'half sprues' and chuck one in with a marine sprue for those units. That way you don't lose space/options on the marine sprue.
ANOTHER freakin' awesome idea!
SS - please tell me you're taking notes/passing these things along!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:27:42
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Ooooh, exciting possibilities if the plans come to fruition ScarletSquig.
In other news a few new pre-orders up such as a Nexus Psi "1 click collection" nb no copyright infringement intended :
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/deadzone/product/raiders-of-nexus-psi-1-click-march-collection.html
and a great deal for Marauder fans, with 2 Ripper suits and a Hulk for under a tenner:
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/deadzone/faction-boosters/product/marauder-support-booster-3-figures.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:28:59
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Where's the outrage for 1-click collections when Mantic does them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:30:13
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dunno, do they actually have a discount? GW ones generally don't (though recently some do).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:33:25
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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This saves £25 on buying the items seperately, so basically a third off.
Campaign Book =9.99
Helfather =6.49
Boomer =6.49
Chovar=9.99
Guntrak =9.99
Rebs support Booster =12.49
Marauder Support booster =9.99
Marauder Specialist Booster =9.99
Totals at £75.42, collection retails at £49.99.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:35:29
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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agnosto wrote:Dunno, do they actually have a discount? GW ones generally don't (though recently some do).
75.42 vs 49.99 for bundle, so yes a discount.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:43:49
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Fixture of Dakka
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Something that GW could learn from Mantic apparently.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 19:44:53
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Well, I think we're aware Mantic is cheaper than GW by now though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 20:35:51
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Fixture of Dakka
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pretre wrote:
Well, I think we're aware Mantic is cheaper than GW by now though. 
More about the concept of providing discounts for bulk purchases instead of, "Here's a one-click bundle that costs exactly the same as if you'd go through and add it all to your cart separately.." I know GW has provided a few discounted bundles lately but it's not exactly a giant surprise that other companies figured it out a hundred years earlier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:20:16
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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scarletsquig wrote:I have a rather juicy bit of verified rumour to offer this thread. Really, really rather juicy indeed.
But, in advance, I have to stress it is what Mantic are *planning*. And of course, that can never change (as you're no doubt well aware of at this point and may or may not have complained at length about bait-and-switch/ horrible comms/ Ronnie personally running over your dog).
So, while I'll pass on the rumour I have to stress that this is official, binding, I am a spokesperson for the company, I make the tea there, I am secretly Fisty Glue Man's rentboy etc. etc. etc.
Do get mad and write a 20 paragraph rant if it doesn't actually happen.
Especially post said 20 paragraph rant in this thread, calling me out specifically. If you do I reserve the right to reply with the traditional trout dinner response as is traditional per internet protocol.
Warpath Kickstarter will be 100% hard plastic. Mantic are planning stretch goals up to at least $2.5m pre-launch.[/spoiler]
Very, very exciting! 
That sounds like a rather good plan, if it can come to fruition. I do hope they wait till 2015 and do it properly, even if that means not launching all factions in HIPS at the time via the WP KS. Something this big is obviously better done carefully, slowly and properly. Hopefully with a lot or even all of the current/2014 KS backlog cleared out so they can do it well without being distracted by quality control failures and fulfilment from two-three campaigns ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:24:53
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Pious Warrior Priest
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^ Nice misquote there.
They're not launching it until Deadzone and Mars Attacks are 100% shipped, and DBX/ KoW 2.0 have at least shipped their first wave. You're going to have hard plastics from both Deadzone and KoW 2.0 in-hand when it's running, so hopefully that will make everyone more confident with putting a big chunk of cash down. I'm going to be there with $1000 on day 1, probably going to come out of it with 8 massive sci-fi armies. It is the game I have been waiting for, a proper 40k competitor and I will be going all-in.
Gotta love the surprise people are having at the 33% discount bundle deal. They've been doing this sort of thing for 4 years already.
Back in the day they used to do "100 minis for £50" deals with every new hard plastic unit they released, about 2-3 months before they came out. It was like ghetto Kickstarter.
They've always been huge on pre-order deals so Kickstarter for them wasn't so much a new way of doing business, just a much more effective version of what they'd already been doing on their webstore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:34:52
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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scarletsquig wrote:It'll definitely be razor-focused on masses of infantry and vehicles for all eight of the Warpath armies.
Is 8 full armies part of the verified rumour, or hopeful speculation?
And for the less initiated, exactly which 8 armies are we talking about?
Plague
Rebs
Corp
Forge Fathers
Asterians
Veer-myn
British actors faking New York accents badly
New York actors faking British accents badly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:36:07
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Pious Warrior Priest
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+Marauders and Zz'or. Possibly Enforcers as the 9th if they get split off the main Corp list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:39:57
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shame the Nameless get left out, but between the Veer-myn and Zz'or I'd probably get my monster itch sufficiently scratched.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:46:19
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Those are the 8 confirmed Warpath races anyway, anything beyond that is anyone's guess and would probably be beyond the scope of even a very large and very crazy Kickstarter.
I'm mostly looking forward to the Zz'or. Hundreds and hundreds of Zz'or.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:57:05
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hey all. Long time thread reader, first time poster (mainly due to the whining/news and rumours ratio). I'm prompted to jump in and say how excited I am about the (possible) WP KS. Everything about it ticks all the right boxes for me. All the races, hard plastic and, most importantly, waiting for the current KSs to finish before forging on for it.
I can't wait to get my DZ Peacekeepers on the battlefield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:58:45
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I may well be set on corporation infantry and enforcers. I kind of hope the armies stay together. It doesn't really matter if the allies system remains vaguely as it is now, but still. I could certainly use tanks for both armies, and I'll probably look into some forge father stuff to convert my modest dwarf horde into something presentable. Couple of things to round out plauge maybe. Probably lay off of the veer-myn, z'zor... not sure about marauders. I should have plenty of them after the kickstarter, same with rebs. Usually stay away from space elves but the aesterians are a bit different so we'll see. SS: Think they'll be having Alessio writing the rules this time around? Have any of the 1.0 Vs 2.0 slash 40k equivalent Vs Apocalypse equivalent debates gotten anywhere lately?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 21:59:00
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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I hope they do complete army sets rather than lots of races with missing options. Would prefer half as many complete sets than I would lots of incomplete races.
Also I really hope they go into Warpath with either no other kickstarter baggage to complete or only one kickstarter left to ship/fix. Warpath is a flagship of theirs and it would be stupid to do it cack handed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 22:07:03
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Pious Warrior Priest
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GrimDork wrote:SS: Think they'll be having Alessio writing the rules this time around? Have any of the 1.0 Vs 2.0 slash 40k equivalent Vs Apocalypse equivalent debates gotten anywhere lately?
Can't see why Alessio wouldn't be writing it. The "I want 40k 2nd edition" and "I want 28mm Epic" sides of the debate both still refuse to give ground.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 22:24:26
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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scarletsquig wrote: GrimDork wrote:SS: Think they'll be having Alessio writing the rules this time around? Have any of the 1.0 Vs 2.0 slash 40k equivalent Vs Apocalypse equivalent debates gotten anywhere lately?
Can't see why Alessio wouldn't be writing it. The "I want 40k 2nd edition" and "I want 28mm Epic" sides of the debate both still refuse to give ground. 
Oooh, a 28mm version of epic "Space Marine" with order counters etc, that sounds good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 22:25:13
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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But of course. 40k sized game has the bigger market, more models as the primary game kind of becomes it's own thing but threatens to be harder to get into and more niche.
The way they've been doing the rules for their last few games... Maybe I can hope that they'll pick one, but after the kickstarter blows up and goes crazy, one of the middle-late stretch goals will be the other game type? Deadzone started two player single mat, but grew to have multi-mat multiplayer and even solo. We haven't see the proof of concept on those types, but I'm fairly confident they'll be good.
Mars attacks did the same thing, normal single mat games, then points battles, etc came along.
Perhaps they'll debut with 40k sized game and stretch goal up a mass battles. Or vice versa. Would be a good time to implement and tool those clear plastic X shaped "movement aids" we were talking about in one of the threads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 23:41:09
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Vermonter wrote:Shame the Nameless get left out, but between the Veer-myn and Zz'or I'd probably get my monster itch sufficiently scratched.
Choosing to make Veermyn instead of Nameless would be a huge mistake. So, yeah, I can see it happening.
Mantic: almost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 23:59:29
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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But would you buy the tanks if they had really long arms and ridiculously short legs? Automatically Appended Next Post: BobtheInquisitor wrote:[Choosing to make Veermyn instead of Nameless would be a huge mistake. So, yeah, I can see it happening.
Mantic: almost.
I have room in my heart for Remy's Veer-myn at least, but I agree, I'd much rather have Nameless. I think Mantic is afraid anything that smacks of Cthulhu or seafood is box-office poison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 00:09:30
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Plastictrees
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Ratmen however, always bring home the...cheese?
What are we doing again?
Looking forward to seeing what vehicles they have planned. Really don't need another sci-fi rules set, unless Mantic gets bought by Fantasy Flight and suddenly releases Star Wars Path.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 00:11:01
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Are you kidding?
Cthulhu is Box Office Gold in every Kickstarter I've seen them involved in!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 00:12:14
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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Plastictrees
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Alpharius wrote:Are you kidding?
Cthulhu is Box Office Gold in every Kickstarter I've seen them involved in!
He's like the zombies of things that aren't zombies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/12 00:30:44
Subject: Mantic Games - Sci-fi News & Rumors: Ruins battlezone sprues, Strider renders p182
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plastictrees wrote: Alpharius wrote:Are you kidding?
Cthulhu is Box Office Gold in every Kickstarter I've seen them involved in!
He's like the zombies of things that aren't zombies.
Ha! Good one!
And...
Tru dat!
Seriously though - Chtulhu and Zombies - Two Great Tastes That Taste Great Together - and Kickstarter staples.
Could you imagine how much money a Cthulhu Zombie Campaign would raise?
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