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Check out the second photo in entry five (the old dude, the Marine SNCO and the female.) The Marine's a fake!
At first I thought the picture was reversed, but note the buckle has the Marine Corps emblem properly oriented. So his medals and ribbons are switched on their proper sides. A SSgt of Marines would know that you DO NOT wear a shooting badge with medals. As a SSgt in a deployed unit, he should have qualified with the pistol as well; so if he’s wearing one badge incorrectly, he should be wearing both. His right collar emblem is upside-down, and judging by the one hash mark and no stars on the good conduct, he’d be a SSgt with more than four but less than six years of active service; not impossible, but not very likely either.
And if he is a real Marine, he’s one seriously screwed up SSgt.
eh, its whatever. the marine imposter does cut a little deeper though. Ive seen one earlier and the hash marks was the thing that i first noticed. The guy had 5 stripes but was only 35, so he woud have had to enlist when he was 15. Ive seen Army and Chair Force service members pretty close in physique to #6 so I wouldnt have questioned him either.
Wait, does this mean I can't trust the Delta Force bumper sticker on the car that always parks down the street?
I had fun with one of these dirtbags in a bar in Arlington once. He was mackin' on my girl before I showed up, mostly talking about how he'd just gotten back from "downrange." He couldn't quite remember where in Iraq he'd been, though. Just "a camp."
Fat dude in a uniform just shows up, declares himself to be in charge in front of various State and Federal Agencies and they completely acquiesced.
Reminded me of the South Park episode where they spoofed 24. Every few minutes a new guy from a different agency would show up and declare his leadership of the operation and everyone complied.
In regards to faking service, I never understood it. Every time someone finds out I served, they ask if I shot anyone or went to Iraq ( never Afghanistan, oddly. One dude asked if I killed any Arabs in Iran... ) The conversation always ends with them disappointed in my lack of combat tales and confused questions about what REMF means.
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NELS1031 wrote: The conversation always ends with them disappointed in my lack of combat tales and confused questions about what REMF means.
Everyone knows it's "fobbit" nowadays.
You'd have to actually deploy to be a fobbit though :(
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
You know evantually some dude is going to wind up getting busted for wearing medals incorrectly, describing things he did that are totally out of sync with what happened in those places.
Then it turns out he isn't a faker he's just an incompetent moron. One that just haphazardly lucked his way into performing a bunch of amazing feats while he serving.
One of the great things about this country is crap bags have the right to come out and be crap bags. And I have the right to call them on it if I happen to see it. Making it illegal to wear medals you didn't earn or a uniform you were never issued seems silly to me. The minute they claim some benefit from it they are coming close to fraud and that is already illegal.
In short: Crap Bag Attention Hoar faking war stories and wearing medals? No problem, just don't expect me to be polite or civil when I see you. Crap Bag using a fake military record to commit fraud and receive a benefit? Nail them.
The guys from Ranger Up have a great video about this:
Great company, coolest military themed shirts I've seen and they help out a lot of veteran's organizations.
Jake
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No different to any pub over here on a Friday night where you would be amazed to bump into hoards of ex-members of the SAS and the Parachute Regiment...
Pretending to be something you are not for financial or emotional gain is a pretty low thing to do but I don;t suppose you can make some of these people feel any worse about themselves than they already do. You need to have some pretty low self esteem issues to even consider trying to pass yourself off. It's when it gets used to con or otherwise extort money that it becomes more serious, IMO.
filbert wrote: No different to any pub over here on a Friday night where you would be amazed to bump into hoards of ex-members of the SAS and the Parachute Regiment...
There are a fair number of ex-SAS where I come from...
The landlord of my local is an ex-para actually...
Though people claiming it far outweighs those who are actually part of it.
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On Halloween I have no problem with people going out and playing dress up. That being said, to misrepresent yourself as a member of the armed forces when you are not, or as part of an elite unit when you aren't, is contemptible. Trading off those who risk life and limb for personal gain, just to boost your own fragile ego or to get laid is pathetic.
Its like this all over, I see it as people with self esteem issues mostly making up crap to make themselves feel more important. Now granted the folks in that article take this to a whole new level...
I see this stuff at car shows a lot too, especially Chevy cars. You go down the line of Camaros and you see 15 Yenko Camaros, every one of them is claimed to be real, or a barn find etc. Etc. When in actual reality seeing a Yenko Camaro is rare enough, seeing 2 in a local car show is near impossible. I think some guys just aren't satisfied with their reality and try to create a different one.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: I've found that people who are in elite units generally don't need to go around bragging about it.
Nonsense. They're known as Quiet Professionals because it only takes a Jack & Coke to get them to start talking about which task force they were a part of last.
Seaward wrote: Wait, does this mean I can't trust the Delta Force bumper sticker on the car that always parks down the street?
I had fun with one of these dirtbags in a bar in Arlington once. He was mackin' on my girl before I showed up, mostly talking about how he'd just gotten back from "downrange." He couldn't quite remember where in Iraq he'd been, though. Just "a camp."
A few years back some battles and I were at an AIT post on TDY. We went to a club and met a group of other guys we hadn't seen in years and parties the night away. Later at the drunk cave (Denny's) we were all reminiscing about deployments and this random dude who had attached himself at some I remembered part of the the night started spinning a yarn about his deployment. Our interest was piqued. He looked about 12 and well, like an AIT student. So'se I ask him. What's your MOS? The army being in the wonderful transitioning phase of realigning MOS' to new numbers he jus so happened to pick one that makes up about a third of our company strength. Cept he used the new number and exactly ZERO of this job type who have been to thier units call themselves that. They have this primal fascination with the old MOS number "33" which they pray to like the omnisiah; which since we call them tech priests is twice as funny. So'se I say you mean a 33 right? No, the new one. The change had occurred like two months before.
Gotcha, we let him finish his story to look cool in front of the chicks we were with and invited him out for a cigarette.
Oh memories.
Honestly this story take like 15 seconds in person and took 5 minutes of typing. Lame.
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
I got a chance to see Cpt. Larry Bailey's handiwork when he caught up to a fake seal, and it was a work of art.
The guy in question had a gaming website with a bio claiming he was a SEAL and would cruise around other sites talking up his experiences in Vietnam with his kid backing him up on the tales.
After letting him carry on the farce for a couple of years, someone called in the good captain who didn't take long in unmasking the fake SEAL for the lying ass he was.
The bio on the guy's website quickly lost any reference to being a SEAL and his name ended up on the Wall of Shame website along with his story.
If I see someone bragging about military service, i tend to think they are fakes. Of those real veterans, they tend to be humble and not overly proud of what they did(They where proud. but they where modest) in which most just shrugged off any compliments as "I just did what i was supposed to do, Nothing more." Most tend to just think of it as another job.
Maybe its just the few I met though.
Weren't issues like this solved back in the day with a good ass whooping? It's like those protestors that show up at funerals for service members. Cops just need to go for a coffee break for 15 minutes and whatever happens happens. Like a someone having a profane bumper sticker, sure it's not illegal but if the sheriff I vote for pulls you over and gives you an ass whopping you'll take it off so my 7 year old doesn't look at it while I'm stuck behind you. Just because something might be legal doesn't mean the culture of the people has to tolerate it.
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Free speech. While what they do is deplorable, its protected under law. We cant cherry pick what we do and what we dont want to hear. Or else we have civil rights problem.
Which is why i never understand when someone bads mouth the military the response is "They fight for your right to say that, so you shouldnt say that"
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
AustonT wrote: Prevents...what does that mean?
He slipped, and fell. A lot.
"He slipped and falled?"
"Yes sir"
"Into your fist?"
"Yeah, i was trying to give him a fist bump"
"And then he fell into your Knee?"
"Yes sir, i was trying to stop the fall"
As Ralphie Cifaretto would say "she slipped down some stairs" "that's my story and I'm sticking to it."
Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
-Alexis de Tocqueville.
OT, these kinds of people are sad sad failures. If they are doing it for the accolades, that's just weak, If it for some kind of profit, well then that is fraud and they deserve jail.
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OT, these kinds of people are sad sad failures. If they are doing it for the accolades, that's just weak, If it for some kind of profit, well then that is fraud and they deserve jail.
Oh man, so many people aren't going to get the funny part of this, unless we tell them I guess.
OT, these kinds of people are sad sad failures. If they are doing it for the accolades, that's just weak, If it for some kind of profit, well then that is fraud and they deserve jail.
Well specifically from what a Canadian infantry buddy of mine says, I'm jealous of your law that makes illegal the unauthorized wear of ANY military uniform, including foreign nations. So some feth head pretending he's a US Marine would get a boot to the head from the Canadian cops same as a lad lying about being with the RCR (Pro Patria!) in Aghan.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
You can wear the uniform, you simply cannot tell people that you are a member of that unit unless you actually are. Otherwise Halloween would be really boring.
But medal wearing is strictly forbidden.
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