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Let's be clear that Waves 1 & 2 were both massively larger than what had been planned, presenting an unexpected production issue tied to the unexpected scale increase. Still delivered on time.

The original KS was delayed by financial issues as much as anything else. Possibly fundamentally so (only Adam knows).

While Adam is a perfectionist, he is still a businessman at heart, and he obviously works to a schedule as best he can.

To assume delay from an unsubstantiated rumor seems unfair given his track record on the KS. In the year since GenCon 2017, there's a lot of obvious progress on Wave 4 content - work that he would not have likely prioritized over Wave 3 without a good reason.

I say he deserves the benefit of the doubt until he says something about it.

Seems like it's increasingly more certain that the Pledge Manager will get opened up for Wave 4 goodies. Wasn't a fan of the Oblivion Mosquito concept, but the model looks great and would love to pick one up; also am waiting for Satan.

A big delay could explain why there hasn't been a decent update for some time, Poots does seem to put off giving bad news for as long as possible.

Still going to wait for the much anticipated post-Gencon update before I freak out though.

BoW coverage. https://www.beastsofwar.com/liveblogentry/gribbly-gencon-goings-on-at-kingdom-deaths-stand-comment-to-win/#entry

Apparently Sam from BoW and Adam are distant relatives.

In the video Poots spends some time talking post KSer what's next and it's more or less other games in the world. With Labyrinth hopefully next and he spent a while doing world building before the 1.5 KSer.

He's also looking at alternative resin methods, talked brefitly about photo resin, to be able to increase production. The Whitespeaker School girl released at Gencon is this type.

So I've got a pretty dumb question for you guys....

Is this game any good? The art style looks fairly disturbing (in a good way), kinda like Dark Souls meets deranged anime in my opinion. The price of the core box, though, has put it out of reach.

That said, if the gameplay is superb, it may be worth a pickup...maybe.

@godswildcard beast of war are doing a play through that’s pretty good in my opinion.

That will give you a good understanding of the rules and how it plays.

If anyone else is aware of another playthrought series please let me know.

I really enjoy it, the current core box (1.5) improves upon the original especially be removing a lot of the temptation to hunt only low level monster that the original had.

I'd agree the beast of war play throughs give a decent flavour of the game

now there are a couple of major things to be aware of,

your settlement is the important thing, individual survivors are not (even though you'll end up with favourites they will die). Some people just don't find this comfortable, so if this is you (or any of the people you plan to play with) beware

Finishing it is hard (especially if you don't look up tips and tricks, playing a load of 1-2 hour sessions and having to start over may hurt (although as it's your game deciding to ignore a session is a choice even if purists say otherwise)

It's a time sink, so ideal if you can play weekly or play several sessions when you do game, not so good if you can only find a couple of hours a month

There is a bunch of randomness from dice rolls, this will end up killing (or boosting) surviors, again you/your group may find it offputting

Oh and solo play is fun

 godswildcard wrote:
Is this game any good?

It's obviously beautiful on the tabletop, and the components are top notch; however, the game itself plays really well. The Boss AI deck was unprecedented and groundbreaking, and using cards to create the campaign was pretty novel. It's a true category killer!

BoardGameGeek has a number of reviews of the game.

It's one of my groups top board games. What Orlando stated about the game is spot on with how I feel.

 godswildcard wrote:
So I've got a pretty dumb question for you guys....

Is this game any good? The art style looks fairly disturbing (in a good way), kinda like Dark Souls meets deranged anime in my opinion. The price of the core box, though, has put it out of reach.

That said, if the gameplay is superb, it may be worth a pickup...maybe.

If you’re just looking for anecdotes I’d say it’s a must-buy. Had two friends play a few games and they ended up buying copies for themselves.

A few more images from BGG and the comments

Sci-Fi Savior



Death High White Speaker



Echoes of Death

Thanks for the responses, everyone!

As I kind of said, the art direction is pretty superb. I think I'll dig a bit deeper and look at some video reviews/ playthroughs. Maybe I can find a copy for a discount. It is so pricey!

Edit:
More clueless questions.
Is the game called Kingdom Death Monster or is that a different version?

Yes, the game itself is called Kingdom Death Monster (even though many just call it Kingdom Death)

Finding one cheap is going to be fairly tricky but worth keeping an eye on the store (https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/) over the next few days as they're going to put up the new gencon stuff at some point and the core box might get a sale price at that point (it was $350 at gencon)


if not they do tend to have a black Friday sale so you might pick one up cheaper then

Kingdom Death is effectively the world and core brand, with Monster being (currently) the only game. Poots has mentioned a few times other games that he'd like to do in the universe

 godswildcard wrote:
Is the game called Kingdom Death Monster or is that a different version?

Technically...

* "Kingdom Death" (KD) is the name of the game universe, and includes the game, the pinups, and other whatnots that may (or may not) find their way into the game (in the future).

* "Kingdom Death : Monster" (KD:M / KDM) is the name of the game itself, and the current version is "1.5" from the KS of the same name. It's the only game available at the moment.

The KD world is large, and there is plenty of room for more games (i.e. "Labyrinth") and stories, but for now, KDM is the only game you can get. In terms of sales, KS is the biggest sale, with Black Friday being the next cheapest. As it's only a few months away, you might wait and see. You

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
Is the game called Kingdom Death Monster or is that a different version?

Technically...

* "Kingdom Death" (KD) is the name of the game universe, and includes the game, the pinups, and other whatnots that may (or may not) find their way into the game (in the future).

* "Kingdom Death : Monster" (KD:M / KDM) is the name of the game itself, and the current version is "1.5" from the KS of the same name. It's the only game available at the moment.

The KD world is large, and there is plenty of room for more games (i.e. "Labyrinth") and stories, but for now, KDM is the only game you can get. In terms of sales, KS is the biggest sale, with Black Friday being the next cheapest. As it's only a few months away, you might wait and see. You

Awesome! Thanks for the info! That's helpful. What has the Black Friday deal been like in the past?

Well, you could find stuff 50% off. But I would not count on finding expanaions on discount or substantial discount or even in stock to begin with.

Black Friday 2017 was $325 + S&H, which is probably as cheap as 1.5 will be. BF 2018 probably won't be any cheaper, but it might be a somewhat higher. Basically, you're looking at roughly 10% saving vs $400 shipped.

For reference, KS was $290 + S&H - about 20% saved vs full price

Post Gen Con sale is live

https://shop.kingdomdeath.com

Just went for Echoes of Death in the end Customs are really clamping down on US imports of late so had to keep the costs down

Edit over 1,000 Echoes sold already they won’t last long

Not gonna bother, shipping fees and customs charges just makes it not worth it, disappointing theres' never any EU warehosue options in these sales... I guess I'll just have to hope they add some of this stuff as add ons in the PM at some point.

Wow the Sci-fi Flower Knight sold out fast. Got other things I wanted but missed out on him.

Since when does KDM use 2FA for purchases?

Anyhow, got Echoes of Death!
____

Looks like EOD will be completely gone within an hour of release.

Luckily I was able to snag a copy of Echoes as well!

It was down to 70 copies a few minutes ago...

Echoes is now sold out!

Snagged a copy of EoD myself, plus DHWS and the SciFi Savior so I’m happy.

Decided to take a boat trip up the lake with the kids and lost cell r3ception. This is like the 5th sale ive missed in recent months due to things like this. Utterly disappointing. I remember being better positioned for these things years ago when Poots used to run these at like 1am, when im still awake, but nowadays they all seem to happen around 5pm when im cooking supper, driving home from work, or running other errands I cant just drop everything for. I suppose i should just give up caring...

 greywulf wrote:
I suppose i should just give up caring...

Same here. I only just now found out about the stuff being up for sale, and it's already gone. From now on, feth this limited run, you-only-have-five-minutes-to-get-it crap. Great models, I just wish us normal people could actually have a chance to get it.

Was finishing a math lesson and herding kids out to recess when I saw the alert.

One student commented they'd never seen me move that quickly...

Hadn't realized there's a naked woman on the SF Savior's base. Does that mean the actual model is her psychic projection or stand or something? Kinda cool.

Of course the Saviors always kinda reminded me of one of the characters in Vampire Hunter D who'd burn out his own life in order to have crazy mental powers.

At least I got thunder thigh high speaker

Yay! Got myself an Echoes set!

Now if we could just get that promised post-Gencon kickstarter update, then I'd be a really happy bunny.