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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 17:43:12
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I'm feeling pretty jazzed about the Gambler's box myself.
New figures, new rules, a month to let them add stuff to it, and I get the feeling the dramatically locked 44/45 box should prove something interesting.
At the very least it's given me a daily dose of entertainment and wanting to see what the next update brings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 17:58:50
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Albino Squirrel wrote: Undead_Love-Machine wrote:Screaming god expansion is the first must-have of this campaign for me.
Sadly the murderer is just not working for me at all, the sculpt just gives off an "I'm a bit bored and lonely" vibe. Also, whats with the amount of blood flowing from the limb he is holding?
Doubtless I will be pledging for a a lot more than my current $50 by the time the KS finishes, but the campaign is a little hit and miss so far.
To be honest, I'm glad there's nothing all that good in the Gambler's Chest. I hope there never is, because it is a lot more money to move up to a pledge that includes it, and I have no interest in the first hero expansion. I may just stick with the 1.5 upgrade the way things are going, as I already have enough expansions to give plenty of variety. Especially with the new ones not coming with armor kits.
But the Screaming God does look pretty good, and it sounds like Nightmare Ram will make for an interesting and very different encounter, so maybe I'll give in on those. I'll have to see what else becomes available, as I'm sure there will be a lot over the next month.
You don't have to move up a pledge to get the Gambler's box; it's a $100 add-on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 18:43:39
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Actually quite like the look (if that's the right thing to say!) of the murderer. He's had his 'climax', the thrill of murder having satisfied his psychotic desires, and now is on the downward slope after that. Knowing that it might be some time before he gets the chance to kill again, or perhaps at some level feeling a level of remorse for giving in to his twisted desires..
At least that's my take on it
highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'm feeling pretty jazzed about the Gambler's box myself.
New figures, new rules, a month to let them add stuff to it, and I get the feeling the dramatically locked 44/45 box should prove something interesting.
At the very least it's given me a daily dose of entertainment and wanting to see what the next update brings.
Very much so! All the stuff like that, the twitch games etc have been very entertaining.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 19:07:41
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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A couple of interesting tidbits from Adam this morning.
-Armor kits, when they do show up, are going to be included in the Gambler/ Satan pledges that get all the new add ons.
-A new pledge tier showed up, which was going to be closed, but now is a complete mystery as to what you end up getting. Look for the True Form Satan's Lantern pledge. Limited to 6!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 19:13:40
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm assuming it's a typo of the $1666 "Final Form" Satan's Lantern, which has 633/666 remaining...
Adam is now looking at delivering 2,000+ $1,666 = $3.3M in completist pledges alone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 19:20:11
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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I think the murderer looks fine, but for me I'm just gonna be sticking to the core game and not getting any add-ons right now.. too rich for my blood as it is, but too tough to resist. Always regretted skipping the first KS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 19:21:41
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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JohnHwangDD wrote:I'm assuming it's a typo of the $1666 "Final Form" Satan's Lantern, which has 633/666 remaining...
It was a typo but Poots decided to "go with it" and make it a mystery box sort of thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 20:43:25
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Kyle posted this Techraptor article on BGG: https://techraptor.net/content/crowdfunding-spotlight-kingdom-death-monster-1-5
TR: Does the already incredible success of the Kickstarter mean that every number on the Gambler’s Box will be revealed? What happens if you roll a duplicate number that has already been revealed?
AP: Every number will be revealed. I haven’t rolled a duplicate yet. So I haven’t decided what will happen.
TR: A few people have expressed concern about the unknown value of some of the pledge levels. Do you have anything to say to the people who don’t know how much you packed into the first Kickstarter, or for those who think you may be playing it
conservatively?
AP: I mean… we did call it the Gambler’s Lantern… They will just have to wait and see.
TR: Is there any chance that new Settlement Events will make it into the 1.5 core box/upgrade pack?
AP: There are a few we revised. But we don’t have any new ones planned.
TR: What can you tell me about the Forsaker-dog-bird miniature shown at the end of the KS video?
AP: We will see the Frogdog at some point during this campaign.
TR: Multiple choice time: How many new expansions will there be?
A: 1 – 5
B: 6 – 10
C: 11+
AP: As many as we can manage of course! I know everyone is excited that we slammed dunked the funding to such an extent. It is amazing. However, I have to calm down and approach everything practically. Kingdom Death miniatures and content are very expensive to develop and I can’t put the company into hot water again. Our first campaign ended up much closer to a $4M total, all said and done. If it wasn’t for our strong resin sales and after campaign sales. We would have been toast. Too many people love the brand now, so I have to be much more fiscally responsible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 20:48:20
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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TR: A few people have expressed concern about the unknown value of some of the pledge levels. Do you have anything to say to the people who don’t know how much you packed into the first Kickstarter, or for those who think you may be playing it conservatively?
AP: I mean… we did call it the Gambler’s Lantern… They will just have to wait and see.
OK?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 21:38:07
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ced1106 wrote:AP: I know everyone is excited that we slammed dunked the funding to such an extent. It is amazing. However, I have to calm down and approach everything practically. Kingdom Death miniatures and content are very expensive to develop and I can’t put the company into hot water again. Our first campaign ended up much closer to a $4M total, all said and done. If it wasn’t for our strong resin sales and after campaign sales. We would have been toast. Too many people love the brand now, so I have to be much more fiscally responsible.
Wow. I knew Adam blew the budget on KD1 (2.0M revenue), but I didn't know that it was by that much. Adam might just be the only one that could afford to make that sort of error, and still deliver / refund AT ALL.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 22:00:55
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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So, just making sure. Have any pledges below $777 actually seen anything added rather than just revealed as part of the print run that's already happening?
If not, $800-ish is a pretty absurdly high "sweet spot" level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/02 22:16:41
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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the rule book in the main game/upgrade has moved to hard cover and if you're getting the gamblers chest you got Cyber Monday Bonus - Sci fi Aya but other than that no (although the MRSP discounts are substantial)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 01:03:54
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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KDM Kickstarters aren't so much about adding loads of free stuff to the base pledge (well, not structured as such per se, but some do happen, especially when Adam has a wild idea and finds room on a sprue).
But the base pledge is a 20 lbs box crammed full of models and game for almost 40% off the very high retail - not a nigh crippleware base game that gets filled out with stretch goals.
KDM is much more about unlocking major expansions, with pinups and promos being fun things along the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 01:27:44
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Alendrel wrote:KDM Kickstarters aren't so much about adding loads of free stuff to the base pledge (well, not structured as such per se, but some do happen, especially when Adam has a wild idea and finds room on a sprue).
How exactly did you come to this conclusion, based on 1 tiny KS, 1 failed KS, 1 ongoing KS, and 1 KS that included bonus... off the top of my head, 6 extra 50mm monsters; 1 extra 100mm monster, 8 extra survivors, 2 exclusive models, 4 promo models (not counting additions to the base game); 2x$60 expansion monsters and another armor set and rules if you spent $300?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 03:00:19
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Alendrel wrote:KDM Kickstarters aren't so much about adding loads of free stuff to the base pledge (well, not structured as such per se, but some do happen, especially when Adam has a wild idea and finds room on a sprue).
But the base pledge is a 20 lbs box crammed full of models and game for almost 40% off the very high retail - not a nigh crippleware base game that gets filled out with stretch goals.
KDM is much more about unlocking major expansions, with pinups and promos being fun things along the way.
The Last KS was exactly that. WITH the added on cheaper/ less expensive add ons/ Expansions. The only reason, BTW that this one has the rabid following that it does at this time.
20LB box was only the Monster box. My unlocks was half of that size, and the expansions that I got along the way were 3d box at least a 2X2 30Lbs box full.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 03:53:22
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 04:05:30
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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They weren't. IIRC 1(2?) mini was/were added to anyone who got the game as promo, 1 was added to anyone who made any physical pledge, and, as I described, 3 sets were a price threshold.
And the survivor extras weren't an available expansion at retail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 04:17:07
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 05:25:31
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Base games got Twilight Knights, I know that for sure (seeing as how I got one).
One thing the Gambler's Box has over the survivor pledge is that there is actual game content to it this time around.
Plus all the sculpts so far are new ones... like today's!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 05:48:53
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:One thing the Gambler's Box has over the survivor pledge is that there is actual game content to it this time around.
Well, if poots had followed through, the promo models from the KS would have gotten their free special scenarios instead of it being this awkward patch whatever thing that's non-exclusive gear and costs money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 06:35:24
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Some Pootquotes over the last few days...
Nah, you guys broke the store. We had more orders in 24 hours then all of KD history.
Beasts of War Lantern Year 3 is up! http://www.beastsofwar.com/monster/play-kingdom-death-monster-lantern-year-three/
OK. This is the Kingdom Death kickstarter campaign after all. I have decided I am rolling with it. True Form Satan's Lantern is now a mystery tier. I won't be revealing any details about it until the campaign ends. Pledge at your own risk. Every morning, if the tier is full. I will open another spot or two... or 6! I HAVE EMBRACED THE DARKNESS!
I admit it. That was an accidental post. However, if the 3 backers in the pledge level don't leave, I could maybe open it up and try to do something interesting / fun. But it would be at the peril of anyone that dares back it. Since, there are NO LISTED rewards on that level.
@LegolaSS, there will not be any more Gambler's Lantern pledge levels. I liked the suggestion of adding a "gamers lantern" tier, but that needs to wait until the end of the campaign. I can't shoot myself in the foot by over-promising (a trait i seem to have!) and then end up losing our resources developing and producing rewards.
CHECK OUT THIS AWESOME FAN ART!!!! http://kingdomdeath.com/downloads/THANK-YOU.jpg
SOMEONE MADE CUSTOM ART!?!? https://twitter.com/The_M0thman/status/804171643627180033
@Freyaldo, neither you or I are VAT experts (tho I did spend 2 weeks reading about VAT law and policy) that is why I can confidently say the following: I do not know what the law will be when we start to fulfillment. Backers are responsible for paying any import fees, taxes, duties, VAT and any other fee's their government or post office has. EXPECT TO PAY THEM. If for some reason you don't have to, then that's awesome!
@Reaper, my plan from the start was to make the Gambler's Chest into a final for retail product. That makes my own SKU list and the more logistical side of the business much easier. It's yet to be seen how much the retail will have to be though. With the Gambler's Chest, I will be happy so long as we don't lose money on it! lol
@Andrew Huang, that lantern tower was a gift from a fan! There is a tutorial on youtube on how to make it. I suggest contacting this guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROQLa2eIPYw
@Brandon, there are no guarantees about how exactly the pledge manager will work until after the campaign ends. Last campaign, we ended up having to raise prices because I undervalued many aspects of the project.
We got written up on Polygon! http://www.polygon.com/2016/11/28/13764236/kingdom-death-monster-biggest-kickstarter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 08:53:17
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Executing Exarch
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So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 09:39:12
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Dakka Veteran
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Mymearan wrote:So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
You are one crazy swede for sure!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 11:40:20
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Mymearan wrote:So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
Those BoW vids are definitely worth watching. Quite long but definitely give people who have no idea about how the game plays, such as me, a sense of the mechanics. Also haven't seen Warren genuinely so excited about a game for some time, which is probably a good sign in that the guy must play practically every new game that comes along.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 12:45:47
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mymearan wrote:So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
Yes. So far I've seen two people in my circle of friends who just demoed the game then went to buy their own copies. It's an amazing game.
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Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team  (building)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 13:54:32
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Pacific wrote: Mymearan wrote:So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
Those BoW vids are definitely worth watching. Quite long but definitely give people who have no idea about how the game plays, such as me, a sense of the mechanics. Also haven't seen Warren genuinely so excited about a game for some time, which is probably a good sign in that the guy must play practically every new game that comes along.
So you haven't seen a BoW video before then? :-p I kid, I kid, but BoW is one of my guilty-pleasures, only because they are over-the-moon for literally any game they have ever touched in their lives. I own so much crap due to listening to them before realizing how incapable of candor they are. :-p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/03 18:30:37
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Mymearan wrote:So when the KS was announced I was like "yeah I don't know, too expensive". Now I'm suddenly watching all the BoW videos, reading the KS comments, reading the BGG forum, looking at unboxings and painted models on CMON, and planning how much stuff I can sell so I can pour all my money into as many expansions as possible... is this the effect KDM has on everyone? O_o
It's pretty much my experience in the broad strokes. I started way back before the first KS when I was eyeing the models on the website and just not having an interest beyond the Twilight Knight pin-up, and it seemed too expensive. I eyed the first KS for the longest while, being somewhat interested to see if that model would be offered, because I'd always missed out on the "o'dark thirty" posting of models and that seemed like a chance to maybe get in on a reliable order. If I'm being completely honest, I really didn't pay much more than a cursory glance towards the game itself until probably the post-Christmas period.
As I read more about the concepts I became more intrigued and decided to roll the dice on a "all game content" sort of pledge. With hindsight, it was probably one of my better gambles. Even with the delays, surprise shipping costs and the Lantern Festival's cancellation, which are all very important things to keep in mind for anyone eyeing this campaign without knowledge of those things, I can say that was definitely one of the most satisfying campaigns I've backed. That's saying something given that for many campaigns even one of those things happening would have torpedo'ed the whole project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/04 02:00:01
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Fixture of Dakka
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The real question is to ask if he is going to be adding other kickstarter Add on characters from other projects... Would be a bag of awesome to see a Kingdom Death Shadows of Brimstone add on, or something from one of the other ones...
Here is to hoping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/04 02:02:44
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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A western style Twilight Knight would be pretty interesting to see!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/04 06:10:23
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - Kickstarter 1.5 Live!
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Update
$6,666,666 - Secret Unplanned Stretch Goal Unlocked!!!!
Hello Everyone!
I am going to take a moment to speak openly. I never, ever expected this kickstarter campaign to come this far. We are currently the 2nd highest funded tabletop game and the 8th highest funded kickstarter project of all time.
In fact, even with this secret unplanned goal here, I thought we'd hit it next week wherein I'd have a bit more time to get things prepared.
AHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I have underestimated the power of the form that transcends the transcended transcended form?!
Anyway. Here is what is happening!
The Satan twins, now destined for hard plastic, are being added to all the Satan's Lantern pledge levels. While cannon to KD, they were an artistic challenge from the original kickstarter. Plus... they wouldn't really fight survivors in that form (for lore reasons). All other backer's have access to them as optional Add-Ons.
An expansion featuring their "final" form will appear during this campaign. If I had it ready now, I would certainly share it. But I don't! Apparently catching up on some much needed rest is a foolish for me right now! There was zero prior plan to include expansion during this kickstarter campaign, even in my most wild of funding expectations (which we have passed by the way)! I need to do some serious math, as I was planning a very LARGE monster. I'll have all the details together before I present it.
Gambler's Chest Roll
I made my roll for today and recorded it. I will be revealing it on Monday, along with Monday's roll. There will not be a roll on Sunday. I wasn't planning on having them on Saturday either (so I could catch up with messages) but I was staring at the dice and I couldn't resist!
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