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Crossovers with other Kickstarters? Come on Pinup Blaine!

That would mean Poots would be comfortable with the possibility of Mantic doing a KDM inspired promo figure in their campaign...

At a reasonable high quality...

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
That would mean Poots would be comfortable with the possibility of Mantic doing a KDM inspired promo figure in their campaign...

At a reasonable high quality...

As if the Kingdom Death figures are of a very high quality... the survivors are not really good imho. For a board game these are the worst figures I've ever seen - as a board gamer I do not want to assemble dozens of figures with dozens of bits - and they even come without and assembly guide (you have to get it from the net). As a tabletop gamer I'm good with assembling them but I do not want dozens of similar poses that are in addition quite static. Compared to very good tabletop miniatures they are on the average or bad side (poses, similarity). On the other hand the latest Mantic figures e.g. For the Walking Dead are pre-assembled and of a good quality and for a board game would be more than suited...

Back to topic: I quite like the Gamblers Chest figures, these individual sculpts are a lot more dynamic and interesting than the old stuff. That said I'm still not really convinced if the Gamblers Chest is worth it...

Mantic are not in the same galaxy as KD quality wise, but I'm not the biggest fan of the armour kits either really.

I'm glad the gamblers chest has been raised, I was finding it very hard to resist! Just the DBZ stuff and the black knight for me I think (and the odd pin up)

Well that rather uninsightful reveal about the pledge manager was a let down, silver lantern and hope it is for me then.

 Ctaylor wrote:
I jumped in at the Good Lantern level (core set plus gambler's chest). Are the advanced rules from the GC useful without any of the other expansions? I'm trying to figure out what gameplay the GC adds, but I'm not sure what the heck all the narrative figures are used for.

The GC is going to add additional complexity and advanced rules to the game without needing any of the other expansions so for deep gameplay it's going to really add to the game, it also contains a new nemesis monster so will give you more variety to your main game

The narrative sculpts are just cool minis to represent your survivors (and not being armour kit minis they can look a lot more dynamic as all the parts won't have to fit onto every other armour kit mini), so build paint etc or if that's not of interest stuff to sell to offset the cost of it all as I bet there will be plenty of people after one or two specific ones and not willing to pay the eventual retail price of the full chest (I'll guess $200-250)

Awesome. I want it!

Vorian wrote:
Mantic are not in the same galaxy as KD quality wise, but I'm not the biggest fan of the armour kits either really.

I'm glad the gamblers chest has been raised, I was finding it very hard to resist! Just the DBZ stuff and the black knight for me I think (and the odd pin up)

You can still get one Gambler's Chest for $100 (either as part of your pledge, or as an add on to a black friday pledge). If you want more than one, the price goes up (same for extra copies of the core game).

Given that I've finally gotten around to magnetizing all my KS1 armor kits, I really hope the new narrative figures are at least armor kit COMPATIBLE - i.e. you could add armor kit weapons/heads to them if you wanted to.

There's no doubt that narrative sculpts can be converted with armor kits.

On the Gameplay Value of the Gambler's Chest:

Kingdom Death Advanced will be adding some cool stuff. Scouts of Death and Philosophies of Death both change some fundamental things about the settlement you're playing. This adds variety.

Atnas is a nemesis monster and as such will add about as much to a campaign as a Manhunter or Slenderman expansion.

The Narrative Sculpts are packaged like the White Box minis- each one has a small addition to the game.

Normal white box figures add a few cards and ways to integrate them into the game. Either they add hunt events, changes to story events or ways to make gear duting the campaign.

Pinups and Sci-fi minis add things that do not readily integrate into the game. New cards that are kind of cool, but players need to choose how to add them (most are low powered, and can be integrated as alternate starting gear).

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Ctaylor, yes, I believe the Campaigns of Death and the Silver City are the only ones dependent on 1st expansion wave material.

Thanks!

Crap, I was thinking of bowing out due to the cost. Now there is that zombicide crossover mini... damn. I guess I'm stuck.

He committed to not committing to either allowing or not allowing additional purchases in a post-campaign Pledge Manager.

Ugh!

...yeah :/

Well, I decided on what I absolutely loved, then there's a bit more that I'd like but not necessarily for the price-- despite us both being enthusiastic about the game, low $300's vs. high $300's was enough to make the spouse happier w/ spending.

Maybe if the PM is open for a while, we'll get more, but not for now.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I've been saying that about the armor designs for some time.

Well, aren't you an observant and charismatic fellow. Have a metal Blaine.

At least once they're posed minis with weapons they should have a bit more personality to them.

After yesterday's lion armor reveals, it really gets me thinking that he's tooling these narrative sculpts to replace the kits in the original game at some future point. It would certainly help bring the price down.

That would be a real shame. The armor kits are a converter's dream, with tons of extra weapons, arms and creepy bling. The only real competition is the Dreamforge accessory pack with all the severed hands. The armor packs add enough value to the monster expansions to push my purchasing justifier over the Bones Limit. Narrative sculpts struggle to break the Wyrd threshold.

 Alpharius wrote:
...

I guess I should have added the 'in this reality' caveat?

My apologies. In my defense I'm on a lot of cold medicine with names like Mantic elves: Mucinex, Prednisone, Fluticasone(?), Claritin D (the meth one!), Daywalquil...

I'm really debating on dropping my pledge because of this little act over the PM details.

I can afford to do the pledge, but nothing else at the moment and was expecting to be able to add things later like the last KS. And doing that when there are renders of the models to see what they are going to look like. Holding off on saying that information is very poor consumer practice and would cause a massive amount of backer backlash in any other Kickstarter.

I'm not sure if it's worth dropping my Black Friday Gambler down to a Silver Lantern + Promos of Death + Messengers. I'm not interested in any of the pinups as I only like the stuff with game content.

I'd probably end up paying out more in the end buying all the expansions at a later date, but would have 2 years to put the money aside before they go on sale.

Loopstah wrote:
I'm not sure if it's worth dropping my Black Friday Gambler down to a Silver Lantern + Promos of Death + Messengers. I'm not interested in any of the pinups as I only like the stuff with game content.

I'd probably end up paying out more in the end buying all the expansions at a later date, but would have 2 years to put the money aside before they go on sale.

It can also be harder to aquire the expansions later. We have no idea what kind of stock he is going to keep. That is honestly one of the primary driving factors for me.

I'm going in for the upgrade + Most of the expansions right now. I haven't decided if I am going to do the Lion god and Silver city yet.

IDK what to think about the armor kits. I absolutely love the flexibility, but think they take a fair bit of work to get awesome. I guess I'm happy with the GC box as a compromise- getting some neat poses and then the flexibility. Yeah, guess I'd be pretty disappointed to see those go.

The only real disadvantage to the armor sets is that I'd very carefully built builds that both looked cool and worked well in the game, but a few of the update rules have invalidated sets (pair of clubs, and using low-str non-spears with the antelope set) so I'm probably going to be very carefully re-arming a few minis, and I assume that wouldn't have happened if just using monopose guys, similar to GW and some non-represented but legal load outs that have become illegal over the years.

 Alpharius wrote:
He committed to not committing to either allowing or not allowing additional purchases in a post-campaign Pledge Manager.

Ugh!

There is absolutely no way Poot's is going to miss out on the chance to make more green. He will however be looking to maximize the amount people pay in during the campaign as opposed to after it.

Personally I am against "armour kits", always was always will be, in all their form from any company, give me a nice mono pose characterful sculpt any time over blunt multi posed kits.

And this is the reason why narrative sculpts excite me so much in this campaign.

Now the pledge manager/ gamblers chest is something it was announced from the second week almost first and we discussed it even here, it was to be expected and it was not something out of the blue.

As far as mantic goes, please, even though I dislike the armour kits, Mantic would vastly benefit if they had even half the quality and more important the commitment to quality Poots has.

For those intrested in sleeves!!!

MCG Sleeves have been almost triple funded and all the stretch goals are now unlocked!!

This campaign is dedicated to expand MAGE Company's sleeves line, but also to offer a variety of accessories for the cards such as deck boxes, plastic stands and so on. Aside the current sizes MCG offers (mini Euro, mini square, standard Euro, standard American, mini American, standard card games), two new sizes have been added in the campaign, that will be produced by MAGE Company : 150*95mm and 210*107mm. Such sleeves can fit cards for games like Kingdom Death. The two new sizes are transparent, premium quality and include 50 sleeves per pack.

One week left and as the campaign progresses, more stretch goals will be unlocked as well as more sleeves sizes.

The campaign ends 10th of January 2017 and after that, MAGE Company will launch a pledge manager were more people will be able to join it.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/magecompany/mcg-premium-sleeves-and-accessories?ref=nav_search

from the comments

@John Demian - Vibrant Lantern
http://vibrantlantern.com/KDM15/ refreshed with Update 35. While there's a good chance that Vibrant Lantern will be shut down, I will remain a 1.5 backer and superfan - thanks everyone!

so if there are any build guides or resource sheets people may want better save them

(not sure why)

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Personally I am against "armour kits", always was always will be, in all their form from any company, give me a nice mono pose characterful sculpt any time over blunt multi posed kits.

And this is the reason why narrative sculpts excite me so much in this campaign.

Ya, that--double on game day.

I find most of the built amor kits to be meh. They are supposed to be game pieces and not WYSIWYG RPG character minis. The narrative minis are much sexier and less hassle.

Need a mini-KS to replace all the armorkits in old expansions with narrative sculpts...I kid!

Iain.

Are the 150*95 and 210*107 sleeves for settlement locations and settlement events?

I'm guessing they are based on the names.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
from the comments

@John Demian - Vibrant Lantern
http://vibrantlantern.com/KDM15/ refreshed with Update 35. While there's a good chance that Vibrant Lantern will be shut down, I will remain a 1.5 backer and superfan - thanks everyone!

so if there are any build guides or resource sheets people may want better save them

(not sure why)

C&D from Poot's who will providing a premium line of instructions for a very reasonable price

SeanDrake wrote:
C&D from Poot's who will providing a premium line of instructions for a very reasonable price

Ha!

Every new update has me less excited about this.

Orrrrrr he's going to do what happened last time around and just let people feth about on their own while making vague promises about putting them up as soon as possible when it goes up for retail feth it, figure it out on your own.

SeanDrake wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
He committed to not committing to either allowing or not allowing additional purchases in a post-campaign Pledge Manager.

Ugh!

There is absolutely no way Poot's is going to miss out on the chance to make more green. He will however be looking to maximize the amount people pay in during the campaign as opposed to after it.

I guess just for bragging rights. I mean, you get to keep a higher percent of the amount added post funding, since paypal takes less than kickstarter (unless that's changed)