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I have the first KS core game and every expansion. I would love to sell it but dread the shipping head ache =/

Okay! This is exactly what I was looking, thank you all! I'm going to go ahead and do it.

Hi, I'm new to this game and I'm planning on buying the 1.5 core game on KS and have a few questions...

What current expansion do you guys recommend me buying? only have the budget for just one right now.

what about new expansions? do you have to pay for them now or can you buy them at a later date? also what about shipping cost for them? finally if I had to get one new expansion, which one do you suggest? there seems to be new ones that require current (old) expansions to work.

Thanks.

If you can only buy one expansion i'd go for one of two choices

1. Dragon King or Sunstalker
both give you an alternate campaign to play, the general consensus seems to be that Dragon King is better, but pick whichever you think looks best, discount is also best on Dragon King

2. Gorm
this provides an alternate monster to hunt right from the start of the game instead of the white lion which some people get burned out on after multiple campaigns

As to new expansion there is no guarantee the PM will reopen to let you buy these later on (but I would not be surprised if it does).

Shipping will be whatever it costs KD whenever it happens, they're not going to profiteer from it, but aren't going to loose money, they're guessing about $20 + $2 per expansion to Canada at present, but I'd expect it to go up as shipping costs are bound to keep rising

Expansion interactions

Red Witches: intereacts with Fade (a whitebox mini not in either KS) and the new Parriah expansion, from the sound of it neither are required but will probably make it better

Campaigns of Death sounds like you'll need a lot of the original expansions to make the most (or anything) of it

Inverted Mountain: requires lots of the new expansions

Silver City: sounds like you'll need the Lion God expansion from the first KS

Abysal Woods: Requires Spidiculese and the flower knight from the first KS

If you wanted to get one of the new ones i'd probably go for the gamblers chest as I think the new advanced rules will change up the game, it contains the atnas nemesis monster and a huge number of narrative sculpt minis,

if you wanted a more standard expansion id go for one that didn't intereact with any of the others, and wasn't late game only so

honeycomb weaver,
oblivion mosquito,
frogdog,
nightmare ram,
screaming god

Thanks for the advices. Since the Core game will be shipping this summer and expansions will ship separately at later dates, could I just pay for the Core game now, try it out this summer, and later back old and new expansions separately?

He (Poots) is playing that one close to his chest, that the PM is going to re open to add more down the line, treat this as a one time chance and anything that follows on in regards to getting more cracks at the PM as a happy bonus.

 RedFox wrote:
Since the Core game will be shipping this summer and expansions will ship separately at later dates, could I just pay for the Core game now, try it out this summer, and later back old and new expansions separately?

Maybe...

Adam will reopen the PM for each shipping wave to prepay the actual shipping fees "at cost". Assuming he allows people to add things to the pledges, the prices will almost certainly rise and availability to drop. So you can pay less for a guaranteed preorder right now, or pay somewhat more later, or pay full price at retail (assuming the items are available). I'm pretty sure there will be at least 1 chance to add Wave 4 items, once their specs are finalized, and I fully expect many items to cost more than what you'd pay right now.

I would agree, Poots is a smart man, he re-opened the first Kickstarter a few times to allow people to add on, but the price was higher each time as the reality of the production impacted him. Abyssal Woods will not stay 150 dollars, its around three times the content of the Dragon King, which is 150 dollars at retail.

OTOH, Ivory Dragon is definitely going to hold at $100, right?

Quick question what expansion include scythes? (Death Guard player here!)

If you go to Vibrant Lantern, I think they have pics of all the sprues.

I know that Death Armor has a scythe. And it is awesome.

Do they restock sold out models or do they work on limited runs? A few of the sold out models are quite eye-catchy.

KD:M does restocks of plastics, but the initial resins are all limited runs. Occasionally, they do encore runs of the resins. In general, buy now or it's gone.

 RedFox wrote:
Quick question what expansion include scythes? (Death Guard player here!)

That would be the Dragon King. Only place they are found in the original expansions. May be additional places with the new ones though, but no guarantees.

Note: I *think* the 1.5 KD PM closes in...just under 1 hour!

 Alpharius wrote:
Note: I *think* the 1.5 KD PM closes in...just under 1 hour!

It was supposed to close at 10am CA, but I'm not touching it, because I'd only muck it up. Or spend a lot more money than I should.

I'll be getting:
- 1.5 Upgrades
- Gambler's Chest
- First Hero
- Red Witches
- Screaming God
- Ivory Dragon
- Abyssal Woods

For how much I'm spending, I'm kicking myself for not getting one of the all-in BF specials. Oh, well.

Same here!

BUT, I did save a little money and admittedly get a bit less than if I'd had one of those.

So...that's a win for...me?

Well I just punched in all the numbers and pressed confirm before I could change my mind

1.5 Core
Gambler's Chest
Dragon King
Dung Beetle Knight
Spidicules
Flower Knight
Abyssal Woods
Honeycomb Weaver



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 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Note: I *think* the 1.5 KD PM closes in...just under 1 hour!

It was supposed to close at 10am CA, but I'm not touching it, because I'd only muck it up. Or spend a lot more money than I should.

I'll be getting:
- 1.5 Upgrades
- Gambler's Chest
- First Hero
- Red Witches
- Screaming God
- Ivory Dragon
- Abyssal Woods

For how much I'm spending, I'm kicking myself for not getting one of the all-in BF specials. Oh, well.

Actually you're mostly getting free pinups with the more expensive pledges. If you only want actual gaming material the savings aren't as enormous. Check "pledge values" on https://stdobby.github.io/kingdomdeath/
For example Satans Lantern ($1666 pledge) has $2700 worth of content, but only $1800 of that is actual game content.

So which sets do we think are least likely to hold current estimated retail price? Oblivion Mosquito has a lot of figures in it for its price.

Really wish he would close this tomorrow (pay day). Oh well, guess I'll hope he re-opens.

I picked up

Monster 1.5 Upgrade Pack
Death Dice
Stone Face Inserts
Gambler's Chest
Super Survivors
Black Knight Expansion
Campaigns of Death
First Hero Expansion
Screaming God Expansion

I was really torn on the red witches, and I didn't end up getting them because it looked like you need to Gryphon expansion to make use of the gear they give you, and I don't really want the Gryphon expansion right now.

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
So which sets do we think are least likely to hold current estimated retail price? Oblivion Mosquito has a lot of figures in it for its price.

Really wish he would close this tomorrow (pay day). Oh well, guess I'll hope he re-opens.

Abyssal Woods and Ivory Dragon would be likely candidates for a price rise simply because of their scope.

My Backerkit PM is now locked - but nothing hit my bank yet...

And agreed - Abyssal Woods and Ivory Dragon are mort likely to see a price increase between 'now' and 'then'.

I just hope they also don't get the Lantern Festival Treatment though!

EDIT:

Kingdom Death 4-time creator 4 minutes ago

It take's a while for the script to run thru all these backers 890 backers left to lockdown, then it will start charging credit cards!

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
So which sets do we think are least likely to hold current estimated retail price? Oblivion Mosquito has a lot of figures in it for its price.

I think that Ivory Dragon is very likely to go up in price. Abyssal Woods might also bump up.


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 LordRogalDorn wrote:
I was really torn on the red witches, and I didn't end up getting them because it looked like you need to Gryphon expansion to make use of the gear they give you, and I don't really want the Gryphon expansion right now.

I missed the Gryphon link for Red Witches - I just got them because they looked nice and it sounded like they'd be a different experience.

I made sure to get everything for the Inverted Mountain campaign - which ended up being quite a bit.

Also got all the extras for the Abyssal Woods campaign too.

Once it all show up in...a few years...I'll have enough gameplay to last a loooong time.

I hope I have build everything from the first time until then...

I got the models that were pretty and cool and I wanted. The models that were pretty but not cool? I didn't get. The models that were cool and I wanted but weren't pretty? Maybe next time. The models that were pretty and cool but I didn't want? Did not buy.


Wow. That was cathartic.

Bob, that was a lot of words that told me basically nothing. Not unlike Hopper to Walken in True Romance.

What did you actually get?

That works. I don't think the BGG'ers buying up all those expansions and talking about funds understand how much assembly and painting all these models are going to need.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I got the models that were pretty and cool and I wanted. The models that were pretty but not cool? I didn't get. The models that were cool and I wanted but weren't pretty? Maybe next time. The models that were pretty and cool but I didn't want? Did not buy.

That works. I don't think the BGG'ers buying up all those expansions and talking about funds understand how much assembly and painting all these models are going to need.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Bob, that was a lot of words that told me basically nothing. Not unlike Hopper to Walken in True Romance.

What did you actually get?

Relatively lots of minis. Do you want the names of the sets I am ostensibly buying or the names of all the minis I am anticipating, including all the minis I have traded/will be trading my rulebooks, tiles, chits and cards for?

I spent $310 if that helps. Birthday money, holiday money, and Q1 budget, less certain unavoidable expenditures.

EDIT: I was trying to deflate the parade of purchase posts, but alas I gazed too long into the abyss.

PS: You should shee what autocorrect tried to do to "deflate". Glad I caught that one in time! Probably would have been appropriate in context, though.

ced1106 wrote:
That works. I don't think the BGG'ers buying up all those expansions and talking about funds understand how much assembly and painting all these models are going to need.

Note that all of the New stuff in the GC and Wave 4 is ALL Narrative Sculpts, like Pinups. And Adam deliberately showed of that relatively simple "marble" paint scheme in the KS to de-intimidate potential painters. But yeah, it'll be quite a bit of work.
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
What did you actually get?

Relatively lots of minis. Do you want the names of the sets I am ostensibly buying or the names of all the minis I am anticipating, including all the minis I have traded/will be trading my rulebooks, tiles, chits and cards for?

Well, I did, but I now understand that you don't want to share, so I won't ask any further.