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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 19:14:09
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Is there any way to get the core game as a non backer or is that just crazy talk?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 19:23:36
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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It'll show up on Poots' store sooner or later. You can get it then. Or eBay if you're in a hurry and have money to burn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 19:25:13
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Hah, I think I'll be patient. Thanks for the answer, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 19:28:04
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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[DCM]
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Right!
Kingdom Death wrote:*Core Games Ships Separately!
The Core Game is massive. To ensure its safety, it is being package into its own carton with corner protectors. It is too heavy to ship with other rewards. It would crush them!
Wave 1 - Estimated Delivery Summer 2017 Core Game / 1.5 Update Pack
United States... $25 / $10
European Union... $40 / $20
Canada... $30 / $15 Australia (+ New Zealand)... $40 / $20
Rest of World... $100 / $30
Wave 2 - Estimated Delivery Winter 2017 (Still hoping for Summer 2017)
Current Expansions
United States... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
European Union... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Canada... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Australia (+ New Zealand)... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Rest of World... $30 + $3 per additional expansion
Wave 3 - Estimated Delivery Spring 2018
Gambler's Box, Promo and cross-over figures
United States... $20 + $2 per Add on
European Union... $20 + $2 per Add on
Canada... $20 + $2 per Add on
Australia (+ New Zealand)... $20 + $2 per Add on
Rest of World... $30 + $2 per Add on
Wave 4 - Estimated Delivery Spring 2019
New Expansions
United States... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
European Union... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Canada... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Australia (+ New Zealand)... $15 + $3 per additional expansion
Rest of World... $30 + $3 per additional expansion
Wave 5 & Beyond - Estimated Delivery Winter 2020
???
Even I don't know for 100% what may happen during this campaign.
Please note that the contents and prices of each wave are estimates and are subject to change depending on the final size of this campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 19:49:01
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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So just to be clear, only Wave 1 is about to ship, right? I just filled out the shipping payment form but was wondering if there is any update on Wave 2 status.
Edit: Ah, Q1 2018 for Wave 2 now looks like:
JohnHwangDD wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:So wave 1 is just the core game and upgrade?
It doesn't include any expansions, even from the first campaign?
Wave 1 is cores, upgrades and rulebooks, only. No dice or bases. Q4 2017
Wave 2 is existing expansions. Q1 2018.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/10/13 19:51:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 20:14:17
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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[DCM]
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Has that 'Q1 2018 for Wave 2' actually been stated, or is that just a J.H.D.D. estimate?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 20:28:17
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Parker, Colorado, USA
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That was fast. Just got a shipping notice for wave 1 (upgrade pack and rulebook).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 20:36:17
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Luciferian wrote:Is there any way to get the core game as a non backer or is that just crazy talk?
There is!
https://kingdom-death-monster-15.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:Has that 'Q1 2018 for Wave 2' actually been stated, or is that just a J.H.D.D. estimate?
Adam had previously stated that there was going to be a rolling 3-month delay to the original schedule, so "Winter 2017" becomes "Q1 2018".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 20:50:45
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Dakka Veteran
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Please correct me if im wrong, but the lantern upgrade no longer includes the upgraded tray correct? Like its not even going out separately at a later date?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 20:55:43
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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As I said above we do not know, current information is that he thinks he will give it for "free" (given it was promised as part of the upgrade pack anyway) to whoever wants it at a later wave, but it will incur increased shipping cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 23:26:25
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Credit card was charged, so Wave 1 shipping has been paid. Now, I just need to wait on the tracking number and actual arrival...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 23:27:46
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Awesome, thanks for the link. Wow, I had no idea they'd raised 14 million dollars!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/13 23:39:05
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Glad to help. FYI, it'll be a grand total of $15.5M USD once all shipping is paid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/14 17:05:00
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just seen the 1st (US) 1.5 core box arrival posted on the facebook group may all you new gamers enjoy the journey
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/10/14 17:06:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 02:59:53
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I'll enjoy the journey once I get those miniatures assembled and painted. Maybe sometime in the next ten years.
Do gamers whose first experience with models is KDM know what they're getting into??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 04:18:38
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It can't be any worse than picking up a GW boxed starter...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 04:45:31
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Dakka Veteran
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Except the GW starter comes with assembly instructions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 04:47:56
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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And the parts aren't deceptively mislabeled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 04:55:39
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I gotta call you out on that one Bob- maybe not in a starter necessarily, but I've built PLENTY of GW kits that were mislabeled, had labels missing, mixed up... you name it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 05:20:25
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Ah, right. I really should check out the Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower BGG forums.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 05:30:02
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:I gotta call you out on that one Bob- maybe not in a starter necessarily, but I've built PLENTY of GW kits that were mislabeled, had labels missing, mixed up... you name it.
Huh. Guess I've been lucky there. And unlucky with the KDM. I haven't worked on my Dragon armor kits since the forearm incident...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 11:34:12
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I'm guessing proper instructions will never happen then?
Or should I feel bad for even asking and go back to playing with a bucket of green army men as has been suggested in the past?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 12:11:55
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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[DCM]
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BrookM wrote:I'm guessing proper instructions will never happen then?
Or should I feel bad for even asking and go back to playing with a bucket of green army men as has been suggested in the past?
1) Are there really NO official assembly instructions yet?!?
2) Did someone somewhere really suggest that to you?!?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 12:43:36
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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In a van down by the river
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: highlord tamburlaine wrote:I gotta call you out on that one Bob- maybe not in a starter necessarily, but I've built PLENTY of GW kits that were mislabeled, had labels missing, mixed up... you name it.
Huh. Guess I've been lucky there. And unlucky with the KDM. I haven't worked on my Dragon armor kits since the forearm incident...
Same boat on the Dragon Armor. However, I can confirm that quite a few GW kits have mis-labelled parts. Usually though it's on their mono-pose or near-monopose kits so it's more or less "it only goes together one way" and you just bull through it. Most of the KD range is similar, but the Dragon Armor, Phoenix and Watcher stand out as notable exceptions to that idea. It is annoying that proper build directions haven't been put up yet years later in the case of the core game, but it hasn't really dulled my enthusiasm for the product that much. Just kind of a weird thread to leave dangling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 14:26:55
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I know from what Adam has said on a podcast that the official painting guides he wanted to do didn't happen as he couldn't get official permission to feature paint range(s) in them
although recently one (I want to say Army Painter but I can't be 100% sure I'm remembering that right) has made positive noises
quite why the reluctance is unclear especially lines that don't have a mini company associated with them
you could speculate that they don't want to be linked to KD (controversial adult themes), that they would want to do official paint sets (I doubt that would fly with Adam), nobody has ever asked permission for this before so they don't know what to say etc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 14:55:06
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Yeah. Not even the core game monopose models have instructions. Not even the confusing core game monopose models have instructions. Also, they've continually pushed back the promo models' rules from the first KS: there are still something like a dozen models waiting for the rules they were supposed to come with (Soon™). Have fun figuring out where those 20-ish non-slotted hands fit on the phoenix without official guides, because I've assembled like 4 of them, including referencing fan guides on some, and am still sure some are wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 15:04:06
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I know from what Adam has said on a podcast that the official painting guides he wanted to do didn't happen as he couldn't get official permission to feature paint range(s) in them
although recently one (I want to say Army Painter but I can't be 100% sure I'm remembering that right) has made positive noises
quite why the reluctance is unclear especially lines that don't have a mini company associated with them
you could speculate that they don't want to be linked to KD (controversial adult themes), that they would want to do official paint sets (I doubt that would fly with Adam), nobody has ever asked permission for this before so they don't know what to say etc
The company in question is Vallejo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 16:05:20
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Whenever someone brings up instructions to Poots the standard answer is to go to Vibrant Lantern, but I find the instructions provided there woefully inadequate for some of the kits.
And kudos to those who manages to figure out how to do the Phoenix proper, no thanks to KDM itself..
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 16:20:45
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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My Phoenix and Watcher are still incomplete due to me having no idea where all the lanterns and hands go on the two of them.
They're my last two monsters I need to get done from the core set too. I refuse to play a partially painted set. May need to finally suck it up and hit VL...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/16 16:33:15
Subject: Kingdom Death - News + Rumors Thread - WARNING - Probably NSFW!
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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Not only are there no instructions, but many pieces are very small and the survivor kits in particular are difficult to assemble. Aside from the Phoenix being near impossible to get right, some other monsters have pieces that have to be put together in the correct order or won't fit. They're not really for beginners. The more board game people will undoubtedly just stick with the starting survivors and ignore the survivor kits, but might still have trouble with the monsters.
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