Firearms you own, and their uses.

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**Spacemanvic**

Ouze wrote:
NuggzTheNinja wrote:
In the current market, entry level ARs are almost as cheap as WASRs. I own a WASR and, given the price to an AR you build from parts from Palmetto State Armory for example, I can't really recommend them to anybody.

Yes, as an AK owner, I echo this. The AK made sense at the time, but that was a while ago and the prices on low end AR's have gone down tremendously. If I were buying now, I would buy an AR over an AK because I would like the higher accuracy and I clean my guns after every shooting session. I do like the AK, but it would be sort of nice to get groupings at 100 yards that are smaller than a DVD case. Definitely an minute-of-bad-guy gun. So if it's going to be a range queen like mine, I would go AR. Plinking's more fun when you hit what you are aiming at and 5.56 is very cheap right now as well.

I also think it would be fun to build an AR from the upper/lower/parts kits sets I see only cheap now and then. I may yet at some point, but my next gun is probably a shotgun for clays.

That being said, if my life depended on it, I would rather the AK. I've never had a single once ever FTF or FTE with it and I'm shooting the very cheapest steel cased bimetal rounds on the market, Tula and Wolf.

ARs are extremely easy to build, and there is good kit for not allot of $$$ if you know where to look. Another reason against Tula and Wolf: I reload

**MWHistorian**

Please don't use Tula or wolf in an AR. The tolerances are too tight and the coating on the steel jackets melts off and gums up the AR's workings. The AK can take that cheap ammo because it's tolerances are looser.

**Ouze**

I'm aware, yes.

**easysauce**

lol... another reason why I like the norinco and call it the "AK" of AR's... it has sliiightly looser tolerances, so the laquered cases from steel ammo have no effect (at least that I have seen, ~500 rounds of that stuff at a time with no issues) still more accurate then the AK too.

its also lets me enjoy "a better annihilating firepower"

google the manual for the norinco CQ-A, you are in for a laugh... badly translated english and space ships galore.

**NuggzTheNinja**

FWIW hardly any of the Russkie steel cased stuff is lacquered anymore. Most of it is polymer coated and, while it smells like ass, it won't stick in your chambers.

There's nothing wrong with shooting Wolf or Tula, but you should fire a couple rounds of brass cased ammo to strip the gunk out of the chamber. It actually works...

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm

**easysauce**

Oh the big box o truth... such a great site, I really like that guy and wild bill hitchcock on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45

**Ruberu**

mega_bassist wrote:
The Luger shoots regular 9mm, right? Is it picky on the ammo you put through it?

The tolerance for the barrel is kinda interesting. It does not like some of the Ameriacan ammo like Winchester or Federal, but rocks the European stuff like a champ. Although it did like Winchester white box which was interesting.

Edit: yes, its standard 9mm.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Standard 9mm being 9x19mm Parabellum... or as it was originally called 9mm Luger, which was designed for the hand gun by Georg Luger.

**mega_bassist**

Ruberu wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
The Luger shoots regular 9mm, right? Is it picky on the ammo you put through it?

The tolerance for the barrel is kinda interesting. It does not like some of the Ameriacan ammo like Winchester or Federal, but rocks the European stuff like a champ. Although it did like Winchester white box which was interesting.

Edit: yes, its standard 9mm.

Pretty cool. I was always curious on how those would handle "modern" 9mm.

**Coolyo294**

I recently got a 12g Benelli nova pump for my school's trap shooting team. It's very nice and definitely better than the old supersport that I used to use.

**Ouze**

Coolyo294 wrote:
I recently got a 12g Benelli nova pump for my school's trap shooting team. It's very nice and definitely better than the old supersport that I used to use.

I am really wanting a shotgun for clays this summer, so intrigued.

**mega_bassist**

Coolyo294 wrote:
I recently got a 12g Benelli nova pump for my school's trap shooting team. It's very nice and definitely better than the old supersport that I used to use.

Ah, one of the guys I game with owns one of those. The action on it is nice and smooth, and the sights were pretty sweet. However, I like my shotguns to have wood furniture

**whembly**

mega_bassist wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
I recently got a 12g Benelli nova pump for my school's trap shooting team. It's very nice and definitely better than the old supersport that I used to use.
Ah, one of the guys I game with owns one of those. The action on it is nice and smooth, and the sights were pretty sweet. However, I like my shotguns to have wood furniture

I was handed an SKB shotgun my pa used for clay...

I haven't shot it yet...

**mega_bassist**

whembly wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:
I recently got a 12g Benelli nova pump for my school's trap shooting team. It's very nice and definitely better than the old supersport that I used to use.
Ah, one of the guys I game with owns one of those. The action on it is nice and smooth, and the sights were pretty sweet. However, I like my shotguns to have wood furniture

I was handed an SKB shotgun my pa used for clay...

I haven't shot it yet...

Oh man! Shooting trap is one of my favorites. I know there's a couple good trap ranges around STL.

**easysauce**

shooters were skeeting before it was cool.

young people, stop stealing our words!

**mega_bassist**

Okay, I probably laughed too hard at that

**Coolyo294**

mega_bassist wrote:
Oh man! Shooting trap is one of my favorites. I know there's a couple good trap ranges around STL.

Trap shooting is a lot of fun. It's actually one of the fastest growing high school sports here in Minnesota.

**mega_bassist**

Coolyo294 wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Oh man! Shooting trap is one of my favorites. I know there's a couple good trap ranges around STL.
Trap shooting is a lot of fun. It's actually one of the fastest growing high school sports here in Minnesota.

That's awesome. There's only two highschool in my area that have trap teams, and they're the more...rural highschools, haha. I wish my school had one when I was in Highschool. My stepdad used to have a REALLY nice '69 1100, and it would've been great to shoot with.

**easysauce**

So... just tried, for the 4th time to buy some .22lr... this is over the last 5 months too... wally world and canadian tire have none.... well they have the over priced packs of 25, but Id rather not pay out the nose for that stuff.

is it this bad in the states?

up here you would think that the federal or winchester 555/525 packs of 22.lr were made of pure gold or something.

I am almost at the point where I will trade you .223 for .22 at a 1-2 ratio... cause at least I can reload the .223

**mega_bassist**

Yup, it's damned near impossible to find .22LR down here, too.

Oh, but I have found plenty of .17HMR .-.

**cincydooley**

I'll trade some .22lr for .223 :-P. Though I only have like, 3500 rounds of LR.

**MWHistorian**

17 HMR is a great varmint round.

**sparkywtf**

Coolyo294 wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Oh man! Shooting trap is one of my favorites. I know there's a couple good trap ranges around STL.
Trap shooting is a lot of fun. It's actually one of the fastest growing high school sports here in Minnesota.

I am sad that they didn't have it when I was in school.

We have a gun club in town for trap, but I don't have a shotgun so I haven't joined to shoot. The local lion's club is doing a fun shoot in a couple months I might get in on though.

**mega_bassist**

Go to Wal Mart and pick up a Mossberg 500. Boom! Trap gun

**Frazzled**

mega_bassist wrote:
Go to Wal Mart and pick up a Mossberg 500. Boom! Trap gun

Already done! I have a HD/field combo so I can shoot clays and boyfriends with the same long gun!

**sparkywtf**

mega_bassist wrote:
Go to Wal Mart and pick up a Mossberg 500. Boom! Trap gun

The closest Walmart's to me do not sell firearms last I checked. Luckily they do have ammo.

Edit: I know I could easily go get a shotgun. My GF and I are constantly hemming and hawing over getting one. Right now it is not feasible with our living arrangement financially right now. (until she starts working full time)

edit 2: I don't think I can get away with proposing with a shotgun either....

**cincydooley**

You can get a starter shotgun for dirt cheap. Hopefully that's not your philosophy on the engagement ring.

**Frazzled**

sparkywtf wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Go to Wal Mart and pick up a Mossberg 500. Boom! Trap gun

The closest Walmart's to me do not sell firearms last I checked. Luckily they do have ammo.

Edit: I know I could easily go get a shotgun. My GF and I are constantly hemming and hawing over getting one. Right now it is not feasible with our living arrangement financially right now. (until she starts working full time)

edit 2: I don't think I can get away with proposing with a shotgun either....

Sparky you're doing it wrong. Make her propose to you.

**Ruberu**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Standard 9mm being 9x19mm Parabellum... or as it was originally called 9mm Luger, which was designed for the hand gun by Georg Luger.

This was implied, Most people that know enought about weapons know standard 9mm to be Parabellum or Luger. Luger was just the European designation for 9mm for Luger himself, where as Parabellum is just the North American designation for 9mm. The need to clear this up is when refering to 9mm Kurz aka 380 or 9x18 aka 9mm Makarov. You can add 9mm Nato to this but, the only difference is that it burns hotter build for a different case pressure. Nato also similar/same to 9mm +P

Or non-standard 9mm like 9x21

**Jihadin**

Couple of us this weekend is hooking up with a Troop of Boy Scouts and showing them how to fire a M4/AR14whatever. Proper handling and every safety angle we learned on deployments.

Muzzle Awareness
Cook Off
Safety
Buddy Hand Off (No Cheney repeat)
Checking chamber

eeevvvvveeerryyyyyy thing. Lot's of ammo to....

wait..I deny all the above if some of you all is offended for showing kids how to handle firearms of Assault, pistol, and shotguns.