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What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?

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 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?



12 or 20 gauge shotgun game load, I'd say. You could take them with a .22 as well, if you're a good enough shot.

   
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thanks!

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 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?


.50 Beowulf

EDIT: feth squirrels.

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Dude. Squirrels are good for stewing. One of my favorites.
   
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 Stonebeard wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?


.50 Beowulf

EDIT: feth squirrels.


Nah. .50 BMG

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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
 Stonebeard wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?


.50 Beowulf

EDIT: feth squirrels.


Nah. .50 BMG

30 mm GAU-8

 
   
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 KiloFiX wrote:
I like the ubiquity of the 30-06 myself. It's been used to hunt everything including the African Big 5 (regardless that most will recommend a bigger round).

On a separate note, if you wanted something beefier (but shorter ranged), I like a lever .45-70 myself.

The only .45-70 I shot kicked like a mule. You are manly mans sir.

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 Frazzled wrote:
 KiloFiX wrote:
I like the ubiquity of the 30-06 myself. It's been used to hunt everything including the African Big 5 (regardless that most will recommend a bigger round).

On a separate note, if you wanted something beefier (but shorter ranged), I like a lever .45-70 myself.

The only .45-70 I shot kicked like a mule. You are manly mans sir.


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 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?

.223 man - it's what it was designed to do!

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You mean ..22 LR right? A 5.56 on a squirrel seems...excessive even to Team Wienie.

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If you're wanting meat or fur off that rabbit, .223 is going to be excessive.


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KalashnikovMarine wrote:
 Stonebeard wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?


.50 Beowulf

EDIT: feth squirrels.


Nah. .50 BMG


Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
 Stonebeard wrote:
 jasper76 wrote:
What's a good caliber for rabbits, squirrel, and other small game, to bag them for eating, I mean?


.50 Beowulf

EDIT: feth squirrels.


Nah. .50 BMG

30 mm GAU-8


Stonebeard approves of these suggestions, and, in the spirit of cooperation and brotherly love for his fellow man, suggests 90mm M71 as an alternative.

jasper76 wrote:Dude. Squirrels are good for stewing. One of my favorites.


Frazzled wrote:You mean ..22 LR right? A 5.56 on a squirrel seems...excessive even to Team Wienie.


Stonebeard dissaproves of these statements and finds your collective lack of antipathy for the vile, loathsome, wire consuming vermin species disquieting.
   
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New range toy.





Yeah I know about the velocity dropoff with the short barrel. It's not my defense weapon. I got it because it's allegedly pretty loud and with the right ammo, shoots fireballs; and to me that is what recreational shooting is all about.

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Hey it's one of those funny arm brace things that totally isn't a stock.

How are they btw?
   
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Awesome - how do you like that Sig Brace?

Mine says hi!

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I don't know how I like it yet - I'll go to the range after work tomorrow

I can tell you that it fits my arm and face a lot better than most rifles. I think I have very short arms or something because I have a really, really hard time getting a good cheek weld on any standard-length rifle or shotgun I've shot. This, on the other hand, feels way more "right".

Although, obviously, I intended to shoot it one handed and need the brace to stabilize my arm. That was my intent when buying it.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
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 Ouze wrote:
I don't know how I like it yet - I'll go to the range after work tomorrow

I can tell you that it fits my arm and face a lot better than most rifles. I think I have very short arms or something because I have a really, really hard time getting a good cheek weld on any standard-length rifle or shotgun I've shot. This, on the other hand, feels way more "right".

Although, obviously, I intended to shoot it one handed and need the brace to stabilize my arm. That was my intent when buying it.


Sometimes I wonder if GW and the BATF have the same group of dumbasses writing their publications.

PS: The timing on Glock's release of their G43 single stack 9mm is pretty much proof that they're trolling the world.


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That clip made me lol.

The accuracy is astounding

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 Ouze wrote:
New range toy.
Unlawful to own in my State.


 
   
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 Ouze wrote:
I don't know how I like it yet - I'll go to the range after work tomorrow

I can tell you that it fits my arm and face a lot better than most rifles. I think I have very short arms or something because I have a really, really hard time getting a good cheek weld on any standard-length rifle or shotgun I've shot. This, on the other hand, feels way more "right".

Although, obviously, I intended to shoot it one handed and need the brace to stabilize my arm. That was my intent when buying it.

Nice firearm, are we getting a full range report later?

 
   
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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

 Breotan wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
New range toy.
Unlawful to own in my State.



Are you sure? Google's saying actual SBR's (and suppressors) are lawful in Washington, let alone AR pistols.

Anyway I shot it today. Just a bit, about 300 rounds to break it in.

It's from Primary Arms, who are vendor for Radical Firearms (the manufacturer). I paid $600 + shipping, which I think was pretty solid. You can get it cheaper ($50 less) from Radical directly but they ship in 3 to 5 weeks and if you order from Primary Arms on a sunday night it will be in your hand on thursday morning and waiting is not my strong suit. It's a standard .223 / 5.56 with a 1:9 twist which is about right for the kind of ammo I will usually shoot.

The short barrel makes it quite loud, but I feel like with some tweaking and the right muzzle brake, I can make it louder still. It was too bright this morning to really see the muzzle flash, so I will try again with some cheap ammo at dusk.

I paired i with a Bushnell TRS-25 and Magbul gen 2 BUIS, absolute cowitness. It was very nearly zeroed in right out of the box which was spiffy, I had it locked in within 10m rounds. Accuracy is quite good, as someone who is used to shooting an AK it's quite impressive how tight the groupings are. Using poop-tier ammo I was getting 3-4 inch groups which for me is pretty awesome; I'm not a great shot or even really a good one to be honest. I ran a few different types of brass, no problems. I switched to steel cased Tulammo at the very end and no problems there either, which is nice because Tulammo .223 is $5 a box at Walmart. I did notice the groupings opened up to 4-5 or so inches with the Tulammo which I imagine is awful if you're a professional, but with my AK I'd be seeing dinner plate size groups so pretty happy with that.

I suspect my sudden increase in marksmanship might be do to the Sig brace, which is truly, truly awesome. It might be the best gun related thing I've ever owned, and this is the first long gun pistol I've owned that I well and truly felt fit my arms like it belonged there.

As a range toy I like it a lot. Recoil is minimal of course since you're shooting little baby bullets. There's a little muzzle flip which I'll try to rectify with a different muzzle brake but it's not bad as is.

My only real complaint is, of all things, the trigger guard. It has 2 lips on the outside which are raised more than the guard itself, and so they scrape up my middle finger quite unpleasantly. I ordered a replacement trigger guard for $10 that protrudes significantly more and will fix that, so no big deal.

One of my better purchases, I think.




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 Vaktathi wrote:
If you're wanting meat or fur off that rabbit, .223 is going to be excessive.



yeah...

22lr to 22HMR or a .17 super sonic load are as big as Id go for small game,

seems wasteful to go any higher, and I have ethical issues with wasting meat/fur.

Id stay away from shot gun pellet loads as someone suggested earlier, thats basically for hunting birds, ground game there is a good chance you are going to be picking out lots of pellets and wasting good meat/fur.

Not saying it cannot be done, just probably not ideal esp for a newbie (aside from being easier to hit due to the spread)



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 Ouze wrote:


Are you sure? Google's saying actual SBR's (and suppressors) are lawful in Washington, let alone AR pistols.



Yeah... my local shops all have 2 or 3 "SBRs" on their walls for sale. Washington surprisingly has decent firearms laws (except for the new I-591 or 594 that were voted on last nov)
   
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Last thing I've used a gun for was my cz82 as a bottle opener. Its the only thing I've ever had that would reliably pop bottle tops off glass cokes and root beer that I like to drink so much. For those of you who don't know what Im talking about, look up Makarov/cz 82 bottle opener sometime, its an interesting thing those pistols can do thanks to their slide and barrel design.

Its made moving in with roommates again really weird because I can't just whip out my "bottle opener" anymore since about half are from California. Had to leave the thing with my parents for the time being.

Also, moving to Arizona was very weird. I thought Kentucky had loose gun laws, but good lord we're practically California to these guys. I actually had to call a local cop to make sure I wasn't hallucinating some of the laws I was reading.

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I love Arizona. They're one step from issuing every citizen a firearm.

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I've found that with SBRs, the Noveske Muzzle Brakes do a really good job of diverting most of the muzzle blast forwards so there's less impact to the user.
   
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Related to firearms, but on a slight tangent, what are some good exercises to get in better physical shape for shooting?

 
   
 
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