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An update from the facebook forums. Undead Legionaries, production minis. Simply excellent!

Those look quite good, actually. May need to buy a few boxes after release.

At this point, I'll be going in just for the 1 pound PDF rulebook.

12 figs for 46 bucks isn't a terrible deal, but not nearly enough to entice me.

However, if the quantity of miniatures goes up when they hit the plastic stretch goal (which they should reach soon) I might actually get in on the Bauhaus if the artwork looks promising (which it doesn't yet).

I have a squad of old metal Etoiles Mortant on the way from a buddy, maybe they need some friends...

Sidstyler wrote:Actually you have to build them all that way. I'm very sorry.

Consul Scipio wrote:Tell me the following dorky pose is optional? Please?

Sidstyler wrote:Actually you have to build them all that way. I'm very sorry.

Brotherhood Chant..."Shoot me in the chest while I shake my fist at you!"
Knowing my luck you're probably right! Thanks I needed that, btw work has been challenging today.

His Master's Voice wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I hope Bauhaus is just a work in progress. Otherwise, those are some static minis if I ever saw any.

That might be because they're concepts.

His Master's Voice wrote:As expected, the Bauhaus redesign is stirring the old guard. Oh well, can't please them all...

By the way, the KS is about halfway there. Wonder how much they can get before the inevitable post 48 hours slump.

His Master's Voice wrote:

 -DE- wrote:
If by old guard you mean people not taken with the generic, uninspired, bare-bones FPS troopers and the cardboard Vulkan cosplayer you put out, then I agree.

Yeah, exactly those people.

You are sounding a bit defensive HMV. Just an observation. Also, people not being enthralled by new designs =/= Old Guard hating on the New Guard.

These designs deviate quite a lot from the original designs. Since Prodos will be relying a bit on nostalgia, they may be too far deviated.

I like the direction the Vulkan is headed in but it needs more refining and tied back to the older aesthetic in my opinion. I love the idea of putting the shoulder pads down onto the arms and think that should be applied to the Brotherhood as well (in addition to making their pads smaller still). The rest of the Bauhaus concepts presented here are pretty bland. One thing that Warzone/Mutant Chronicles could never be accused of in the past was being bland...

Your work in sculpture and illustration is fantastic from what I have seen in your threads HMV. If you intend to do more work of the concept variety in the future you should really learn to not take criticism personally. Also, learn a bit more about the design work. The ability to illustrate =/= the ability to design. They are different disciplines.


I like the new figures shown. Is it possible to put the gun stock on the inside of the elbow where it belongs? If not, please look into making that change.

Looking forward to more.

~Eric

praetor24 wrote:
An update from the facebook forums. Undead Legionaries, production minis. Simply excellent!

These Undead Legionaries look amazing but their bases are too big. Now I am all for using 25mm ones. Could you also give Mishima players some info about their favourite army?

 AAN wrote:
I just realised that AGAIN you have to have a Facebook account to go to the KS linked design forum!

Why so?
I honestly do not see much use in joining Facebook - and I presume I am not the only one - so why prohibit possible customers?

AAN we will have a forum on our website very soon: warzonegame.com
Until then we are using Facebook for this, and as I've said previously, we will continue posting on the interested forums everything posted on FB, unless some one else gets there first (which they often do )

Also I'm not sure we can or should link to the other forums for various different reasons!

Taarnak wrote:
You are sounding a bit defensive HMV. Just an observation.

An observation based on what?

Look, I don't really care what people think of those, I only cared about my customer being satisfied. Both Prodos and Paradox reviewed and accepted my redesign, I got paid, case closed. I don't even mind people coming up with bs like 'cardboard boxes cosplay'. Most people on the internet know everything about everything, including visual design, so who cares.

Really, Prodos can and should scrap my work and do another round if they think they'll sell more stuff that way.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Taarnak wrote:
You are sounding a bit defensive HMV. Just an observation.

An observation based on what?

Look, I don't really care what people think of those, I only cared about my customer being satisfied. Both Prodos and Paradox reviewed and accepted my redesign, I got paid, case closed. I don't even mind people coming up with bs like 'cardboard boxes cosplay'. Most people on the internet know everything about everything, including visual design, so who cares.

Really, Prodos can and should scrap my work and do another round if they think they'll sell more stuff that way.

Did you design the Bauhaus concepts? Consider me a fan, then. After seeing the full shots on the forum, they actually look like plausible real-life designs (especially the Vulkan, looks like the current USA/Darpa powered armor that's being developed, with armor put on). Retains the style and makes it realistic.

Yeah, I like those legionaries.

 judgedoug wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

Taarnak wrote:
You are sounding a bit defensive HMV. Just an observation.

An observation based on what?

Look, I don't really care what people think of those, I only cared about my customer being satisfied. Both Prodos and Paradox reviewed and accepted my redesign, I got paid, case closed. I don't even mind people coming up with bs like 'cardboard boxes cosplay'. Most people on the internet know everything about everything, including visual design, so who cares.

Really, Prodos can and should scrap my work and do another round if they think they'll sell more stuff that way.

Did you design the Bauhaus concepts? Consider me a fan, then. After seeing the full shots on the forum, they actually look like plausible real-life designs (especially the Vulkan, looks like the current USA/Darpa powered armor that's being developed, with armor put on). Retains the style and makes it realistic.

Can you repost the pics from the facebook forums for those of us not into the social media scene?

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Did you design the Bauhaus concepts? Consider me a fan, then. After seeing the full shots on the forum, they actually look like plausible real-life designs (especially the Vulkan, looks like the current USA/Darpa powered armor that's being developed, with armor put on). Retains the style and makes it realistic.

Can you repost the pics from the facebook forums for those of us not into the social media scene?

These are what I'm talking about

Had to register just to throw my two cents in, as I never thought WarZone would be raised from the dead (again) ! So, very happy to see it happen.

Those Legionnaires look really sweet and I am simply delighted to see that some of them still wield the same old Kratachs, as I was always strangely fond of this assault rifle. Hell, it was better than Mishima's standard AR (was it "Shogun" ??) in WZ 1st ED

One thing though, I am not keen on using such potent characters as Dominic or Alakhai in starter boxes, I'd rather see some high-ranking but ordinary Brotherhood member and a Nepharite. But that's just my personal preference, I never liked using named characters / great heroes in any skirmish game, the way I see it they should be more like a legend, leading hundreds or thousands of troops, not taking to the battlefield themselves accompanied by a handful of grunts and - oh look, what are the odds! - encountering their equivalent in the enemy ranks, it always seemed silly.

Anyway, best of luck with WZ: Res, I can't wait to unleash some big, bad Dark Legion boys on humanity once more

I think the current designs are too close to each other and not close enough to original Warzone. We have the cybertronic faction, we have the cybermen faction, and we have the cylon faction. Two factions also have mutated, bare-chested humanoids. Where are the humans, where are the mega-corps?





Every Warzone starter had the Imperials as its centerpiece. Why is their existence totally ignored in this kickstarter. Aren't they one of the most popular Warzone factions? I think, the choice of units and factions is unfortunate. Guess I have to wait a year, until I might join this game.

 judgedoug wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Did you design the Bauhaus concepts? Consider me a fan, then. After seeing the full shots on the forum, they actually look like plausible real-life designs (especially the Vulkan, looks like the current USA/Darpa powered armor that's being developed, with armor put on). Retains the style and makes it realistic.

Can you repost the pics from the facebook forums for those of us not into the social media scene?

These are what I'm talking about

Thanks. I personally think it looks cool despite liking the more exaggerated scifi version a bit more. I'd be surprised if it stayed the exact same proportions as the cybertronic stuff still kept (a bit too much IMO) the exaggerated thickness guns.

From their Facebook:

I don't understand all the fuss about the new bauhaus stuff! To me, it looks like the best conceps we've seen this far and have way more bauhaus feel to them than the cybertronic stuff got a cybertronic feel to them! Sure they might need some minor twitches but they are imo pretty awesome anyway! Can't wait to see the renders let alone miniatures!

The everasseur, now that's the real criminal if you ask me!

And the legionnaires looks awesome btw! Much better than I'd expect!

Lads, Just quick note about Bauhaus.

These are just concepts arts and final decision will be made once we have 3Ds. So there is nothing to be worry about as we wont send to production anything that fans would hate!

Looks good so far, but i would like to see more before i do anything. Like how many different different troop choices there is in the factions, what they look like, a little bit of how the game plays.

Like the renders so far but hopefully there will be some painted minis up there to show soon.

Isnt the cuirassier and Atilla the same thing? The artwork for it looked so lovely, but the transition to 3D render of it looks really crappy. Chest armor shrunk, the wide arms and shoulders changed and legs looks weird. The whole thing looks like it got shrunk down from big bad as to more toy looking.

Not really sold on the Bauhaus, they look a little bit boring to me, especially the big robot. Troopers looks ok but needs some work to make them look good. Helmet needs something, maybe widen the lower part of the helmet to make it look more like the German ww1/2 helmet and put some gas mask filters on the lower side of it where there are what i think is holes. The upper part of the shoulder armor looks wrong to, i think it would have looked better if the "fins" on the upper part of the shoulder were pointing up instead of out to the sides where it makes no sense to have them. Chest i cant realy comment on since i have only seen it from front and back, i would like to see it from the side to.
As it stands now, if i go Bauhaus il go with dreamforge and slightly converted Dust Warfare miniatures

The Razide is easy my favorite of them, it looks big and bad! I will easily get on of those no matter what!

 c0un7_z3r0 wrote:
I don't understand all the fuss about the new bauhaus stuff! To me, it looks like the best conceps we've seen this far and have way more bauhaus feel to them than the cybertronic stuff got a cybertronic feel to them! Sure they might need some minor twitches but they are imo pretty awesome anyway! Can't wait to see the renders let alone miniatures!

The everasseur, now that's the real criminal if you ask me!

And the legionnaires looks awesome btw! Much better than I'd expect!

I think the Everasseur is just fine as well. Not every piece of Cybertronic art is symmetrical and sleek. Plenty of the Mutant Chronicles stuff, Dark Eden designs, and 2nd Edition designs were chunky, utilitarian and covered in tubes, rivets and other dieselpunk trappings. The Ev simply seems to be pegging on that rather than the sleeker Curriaser minis. Hell, I'm mostly picking up the Cyber box just to get that sucker.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
So there is nothing to be worry about as we wont send to production anything that fans would hate!

Oh no, we'll be at this for forever!

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Lads, Just quick note about Bauhaus.

These are just concepts arts and final decision will be made once we have 3Ds. So there is nothing to be worry about as we wont send to production anything that fans would hate!

Beautiful concepts if you ask me! But will you be doing anything about the everasseur? I don't mean to be rude but it does look a bit over-worked and bulky...

Bubbalicious wrote:
i think it would have looked better if the "fins" on the upper part of the shoulder were pointing up instead of out to the sides where it makes no sense to have them.

I actually made them a bit to short. Right now they do not cover the neck area completely from the side in resting position and only do it properly when in firing position. If they were to point up they'd a) provide no cover to the neck area from the side when the arm is raised, b) limit the movement of the arm to about 90 degrees up.

 god.ra wrote:
From their Facebook:

Need these now!!

Helmets, you may vote for any two from this pack at our Facebook, or just drop me PM.

Definitely the upper right corner. It's got a touch of the WW1 flair without carrying it to a comedic level. It respects the previous minis' design but still goes off in a more modern realistic direction.

The two on the far right are my faves.

Bottom two farthest to the right. Don't like the helmet spike.

Pretty cool to see this project up and going. I have the original boxed set, but never played it! Didn't it have a sort of leveling up or character progression? Was that part of the table top game at all? (I'm a big fan of Necromunda, and wonder if this might have some "character development" elements similar to that)

Very cool to see this evolve, but not super keen on the selection of KS as a pre-order method. The "lures" of value and freebies* don't appear to make this a project I'll jump in on, as picking it up later will be a much better bargain with very little wait time, apparently.

* from today's comments by Prodos Games Ltd on the KS page: "...have to say there won't be tons and tones of freebie ( there will be some)..." Reckon I'm a bit spoiled by some of the absolutely great deals I feel I've gotten off KS in the past year.

Why do I feel the need to dredge up the Ron Perlman/Thomas Jane Mutant Chronicles BluRay that I have on the shelf? Awful flick, but so cheesy it was fun.