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 His Master's Voice wrote:
Why are all Hussars armed with LMGs? They should have Panzerknackers.

The official answer from the KS page:

A quick update. The Bauhaus Hussars will be improved over the weekend, and taking everyone's feedback, we will see newly positioned shoulder pads and some other great improvements.

And answering to these questions:

1) Will they come with multiple head options? It looks like only some of the guys in the renders have the gas-masks.
2) Will they all be armed with LMG, or is that just a place-holder until the assault rifles get rendered?

1. Yes, 15 heads in box of 5 models
2. Yes, its only place holder.


Link here:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/mutant-chronicles-warzone-resurrection/comments

Ah, there we go, nice and concise. Wow, 15 heads? I wonder what the rest will be like? So far we have pseudo 1st-edition facemask mixed with a bit of Ducal Militia, the 2nd Edition Kev White version. I wonder if the 3rd will be the helmet+gasmask combo? Or maybe a few bare heads.

And I can't wait to see the full render of the finalized Panzerknacker, I always liked the general look of it and the re-design looks perfect.

one of them!

Quite an improvement from the 1st drafts!

M.

The stance seems prety wide to me. looks like he's about to do the splits. lol

Bring his back leg up about a foot's lenght and it would be fine thow.

The helmet and mask looks awsome, and the assault pack and thigh holster is a awesome touch. Relay brings the mini together. Love it.

why are they struggling with bauhaus minis when everything else is awesome? that's not a dynamic pose, that is forced and awkward.

katfude wrote:
why are they struggling with bauhaus minis when everything else is awesome? that's not a dynamic pose, that is forced and awkward.

That is an old concept, there's newer ones further up the chain here! And the final versions will be available early this week

I have really high hopes these hussars are gonna be great. They look way better posed.

Like them, even the stance

Well ,some of the stances can of course be polished, but it's definitely in the right direction.

Mishima Hero Update:



There is something odd with the pose, plus I would have preferred if they showed us renders of the actual releases (e.g. Cybertronic Armoured Chasseurs) rather than the extras.

Still a bad idea that Mishima players can't get their hero miniature.

I'd say its pretty close to the original.

http://www.paulbonner.net/load_colart.php?section=4&imgid=19&imax=42

I guess they will get a similar hero later on.
I think it looks nice except for the sashimono, I might cut it when I get mine.

M.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Still a bad idea that Mishima players can't get their hero miniature.

Limiting anything related to game is bad idea. Limiting hero of army is even worse. Mishima players will probably have to wait many months [maybe even a year] for their army and even then they will not be able to field Tatsumoto because he was kickstarter exclusive.

Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Still a bad idea that Mishima players can't get their hero miniature.

Limiting anything related to game is bad idea. Limiting hero of army is even worse. Mishima players will probably have to wait many months [maybe even a year] for their army and even then they will not be able to field Tatsumoto because he was kickstarter exclusive.

I don't get this Mishima players' problem. Just get Chasseur: Special Edition Signed Rules and Background Book 24 GBP (~$37) deal and add £4 (per copy) to your pledge. That's it.

magyar wrote:

Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Still a bad idea that Mishima players can't get their hero miniature.

Limiting anything related to game is bad idea. Limiting hero of army is even worse. Mishima players will probably have to wait many months [maybe even a year] for their army and even then they will not be able to field Tatsumoto because he was kickstarter exclusive.

I don't get this Mishima players' problem. Just get Chasseur: Special Edition Signed Rules and Background Book 24 GBP (~$37) deal and add £4 (per copy) to your pledge. That's it.

Yes it could be that simple but it is not. What about players that want only Tatsumoto miniature? What about players that like Tatsumoto miniature but donot like WZR rules? What about players that join after kickstarter is over?

Those are all first world problems.
If we will see a fully fledged out Mishima army somewhen in the future, I'm sure they will get all neccessary options. This ONE miniature will not break anyones neck.

Shadow Walker wrote:

magyar wrote:

Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Still a bad idea that Mishima players can't get their hero miniature.

Limiting anything related to game is bad idea. Limiting hero of army is even worse. Mishima players will probably have to wait many months [maybe even a year] for their army and even then they will not be able to field Tatsumoto because he was kickstarter exclusive.

I don't get this Mishima players' problem. Just get Chasseur: Special Edition Signed Rules and Background Book 24 GBP (~$37) deal and add £4 (per copy) to your pledge. That's it.

Yes it could be that simple but it is not. What about players that want only Tatsumoto miniature? What about players that like Tatsumoto miniature but donot like WZR rules? What about players that join after kickstarter is over?

Who said that Tatsumoto will not be released with Mishima army later on? There is a big difference between kickstarter exclusive miniature and kickastarter exclusive character. Nobody said that Tatsumoto will not be released, maybe not in the same pose. Most probable is that they will release different Tatsumoto miniature later on. Thus, the people who like Tatsumoto and those who missed kichstarter will be able to buy tatsumoto, just not the one we see here.

 Miguelsan wrote:
I guess they will get a similar hero later on.
I think it looks nice except for the sashimono, I might cut it when I get mine.

M.

That is correct, Sir.

Great model!... except the pose. Looks rather silly. that sort of trying to look dynamic but actuallly looking silly.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


one of them!

AWESOME!! Ad Panzerknacker and maybe bulk out the shoulderarmour abit, then move on to the ranger masks!

Somehow the drum magazine of the Rifle is not looking right to me.
German Weapons did not use drum magazines, for me they always create a strong visual link to Soviet SMG armed WWII troops.

1) The weapon is actually just a placeholder. It will end up being the LMG down the line, but the Panzerknacker isn't finished yet.
2) Bauhaus is not just the German faction. They contain German, Russian, French, Italian and several other European countries in their sphere of influence. 2nd Edition beat them in to Space Prussia, but in 1st Edition they were the Space EU (with Russia). The leader of the Ministry of War is Duke Romanov, so a bit of Russian design influence works for me.

 AAN wrote:


Somehow the drum magazine of the Rifle is not looking right to me.
German Weapons did not use drum magazines, for me they always create a strong visual link to Soviet SMG armed WWII troops.

I like it. Much better than the original concepts. I would like the better Bauhaus units to have more traditional shoulderpads, but this works for Ducal militia.

Oh wow, that new image with the panzerknacker and the shoulder pads looks nice!

Shouldn't that Panzerknacker have more than one barrel? It looks like it has the Grenade Launcher attachment, but no second barrel.

Aslo, I know is a bit nitpicky, but Bauhaus weapons had very small ejection ports because the ammo is caseless, and was only used id there was a ammo malfunction. Or is that just a charging handle?

i must say it.... niceeeee, I love where the shoulder pads are now. Big YES

UPDATED concept for Venusian Rangers... the old one did not work out :(

 ergotoxin wrote:
I'd say its pretty close to the original Bonner Tatsumoto.

Pretty close, but the shoulder pads need some work to be as elegant as the ones in the illustration. They don't need to be as epically huge as the pic, but the shapes need to be nuanced a bit: plates need to be shown as thin plates, not a solid mass and more recurve at the upper point of each plate.

This is the kind of thing that hurt a lot of the original WarZone figs; great art, but sloppy sculpting of figures that did not begin to capture the character of the art.
this Tatsumoto fig is a huge improvement over the original, but still needs some tweaking to be a great figure.

Tim

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
UPDATED concept for Venusian Rangers... the old one did not work out :(

Kind of on the fence on that one. I never liked the hood and cape, I always thought that was more for the Marshals. If executed well though it might be nice, I just hated how it looked on the old minis. That hood and even the mask gives them a nice grim reaper appearance, which while not traditional, I think works nicely.

Do not like fur and lion on chest.