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warboss wrote: The models do look quite nice but the thrash metal German counting is a bit odd. Are Venusian Rangers known for their arithmetic skills?
Well, assuming it wasn't coincidental, I'm assuming it's Bahaus=Germans so German industrial metal is somewhat fitting.
Expect an update to the rules PDF at somepoint. A kindly gentleman at my FLGS went through the rules and found all kinds of interesting errors/fixes. He's been on the Warzone bandwagon since the original iteration.
Of all the figures shown I find the Rangers to be the weakest perhaps because I love too much my old ones .
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Those words, they fit together and make a sentence... but I cannot parse them.
I have plenty of the old ones. But they make me shudder each time I look at them. They look like Nagash had an illegitimate child with a 90's shoulder pad factory on top of a bearskin rug (that they now don in memory of the deed).
The new ones look smooth, stylish and I am actually surprised at how natural the poses look (love the firing one, too few minis actually get modelled firing their guns). I love how versatile they are looking as well, can't wait to see the alternate pieces for the kit (though I am loving the basic ones here; they will also make an excellent generic special forces squad for any of the lesser Guard Orders).
I think the helmets are too necronish for me and that could be my issue with them, too different from the original masks. To be honest I started my pledge thinking about getting Bauhaus but as the KS went on I felt that Bauhaus basic unit miniatures were worse than Capitol and Brotherhood equivalents so at ordering time I dropped all Bauhaus units in exchange for Capitol ones leaving just the heroes.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Just remember, they also come with alternate heads that are the "classic" design as well. They just haven't been shown in the flesh (so to speak). But old-school jawless masks were shown in renders and Prodos did confirm there would be alternate heads in there. So everyone should be happy.
I'm personally glad that multiple styles of skull-mask/death's head are available since the skull is used as the generic cresthelm on most Bauhaus special forces (it is the standard mask that comes with Guardsman armour). So having one that is a more customized version and one that is "stock" is a nice touch.
But unless Prodos have changed their toon, the below renders are still a go to my knowledge:
I know, I know, it's just when I saw those renders and compared them against the Capitol and Brotherhood ones I felt they were lacking. I'm sad that the uber cool Capitol grunts had to be changed but the Banshees and Mortificators look promising.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Miguelsan wrote: I know, I know, it's just when I saw those renders and compared them against the Capitol and Brotherhood ones I felt they were lacking.
Possibly because they were sort of designed by committee. That never helps.
Eh, definitely an "eye of the beholder" deal here. I love the design. Reminds me a lot of my favourite Void minis back in the day. Nice and clean, not a ton of busy details. They should paint up really nicely and be able to accept anything from a nice, clean block-colour paint job to a more intricate camo design without losing out on all the details a busier model may have.
I think they mesh well with Bauhaus's cleaner lines and smoother look. But I can see why some might like the other stuff more, so to each their own.
But speaking of Bauhaus, the rules for them have dropped and they definitely spoil some interesting new bits about force design. Hopefully the Cyber and DL lists are getting a similar system added on, because tying sets of unit upgrades to the style of the commander is a nice touch.
I'll definitely be fielding a lot of Steiner-based V-Ranger forces.
And I continue to be impressed by the way they are translating a unit's flavour in to game mechanics. These V-Rangers are the first ones that have felt like a crack commando team. Their stats are in the right range that they feel elite and their rules make them feel like a force designed to strike at the enemy's heart through the toughest terrain imaginable.
Oh, and Juggernauts kool-aid man through walls when assaulting. That manages to check off all the boxes of cool flavour, interesting design and freaking hilarious in play. I may have to pick more of those up.
I suppose now is as good a time as any to ask, but what exactly is the "official" color scheme for the Bauhaus troops? All I can remember was that they had white armor plates and that's pretty much it.
They have shown up in blue, blue-grey or straight grey in the past. Though this changes up a lot in art (depends on the unit as well, Rangers have been shown in white as well as camo schemes). So go crazy.
Likely the colors will be dependent on terrain in almost all cases with most armies(exception being Dark Legion who doesnt care(either by lack of intelligence or ego)). Typically you see the white or light grey armored troopers in the snow and green or mottled in the jungle. There is likely a set scheme for non hostile garrisson troops, kind of like how our own militaries use a generic most common terrain camo in the real world(aside from the US navy who wore blue and black camo, which never made sense to me)
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
What? My proud Mishima go to battle in red and white.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Ronin_eX wrote: They look like Nagash had an illegitimate child with a 90's shoulder pad factory on top of a bearskin rug (that they now don in memory of the deed).
Even the Japanese samurai families in WW2 wore khaki uniforms to blend into the terrain better and not stick out as much regardless of their dress uniforms sitting in a closet at home.
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
Well, mishima is out and we are having fun again.
Pity things are slow but I'm sure we'll get a nice game after all is said and done.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
Wow, Capitol and Mishima are really looking great. You guys have done leaps and bounds better with them than with Bauhaus, Dark Legion of the Brotherhood, in my opinion.
@Prodos, a few things:
Please, please, please get still of these figures up. Preferably with a grey primer coat, and somewhat larger than the other stills that have been out.
The rotating video doesn't show a terrible lot of detail, but it could with a little re-thinking. Shoot one model at a time (with a grey primer coat) against a neutral background (but not too close to the primer color). Use a tripod. You can get mini-tripods for very little money on eBay if needs be. Put your lights behind the camera and diffuse them (lots of tutorials online).
The music, while good, is a distraction to the videos (not to mention bloating the file size).
That's it for the criticism.
Cpt. Henry Thomas might be my new favorite Warzone figure, replacing the Mishima samurai shown recently. He has a very Gears of War vibe, and I like it.
~Eric
Edit: Corrected a few things.
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Who is the other guy with Mitch and the dog on the spinning dais? Is that a Free Marine? He's got the whole space vietnam trooper ala Aliens vibe going and I like it.
edit: Nevermind, it's Henry Thomas and he's apparently airborne. The title is cut off both in the mini video window above and at the main youtube title but it's in the descripion there.
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