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**Phragonist**

Kroothawk wrote:
Crisis Suits were just dropped from the required products list for GW stockists, so chances are good for a replacement soon.

Now comes the real question of "Will the new crisis suits be better or worse than the current ones?" I'd hate to wait to buy crisis suits, and then they are ugly as turd, and have a hard time finding unpainted old ones. I hope the new ones are not finecast.

**paulson games**

I hear the new super suit is going to be crazy good, maybe something like this.

(or not)

**Rented Tritium**

That's the kind of body I'd like to see. Something closer to a dreadnought. A heavier MC sized suit.

Sadly, I'm sure it'll be some out-of-character gaudy foot tall anime mecha.

**iainslomoscott**

ED-209 style

**paulson games**

Can always pick up one of these guys (Macross Mac II Monster)

Available on Hobby Link Japan for $17, crazy cheap when a basic crisis suit runs $24.75 (or $39.50 if you want a broadside)

WIth all the other great robots out there it makes me wonder why people still cling to overpriced GW stuff.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Mr. Paulson, please stop feeding my addictions. You got some of my money already.

Those weapons on the resin kit are from your incredible range, are they not? *wink, wink*

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That Destroid is 1/200?!?!?!?? Geez.

**Ledabot**

I would totally take a battletech mech as a broadside if they were the right scale, and maybe a little better detail. (some of them are really bad)

The main reason that many don't is it isn't legal in tournaments and it makes you look cheep. Third party stuff always seems a little too far off from the original to me.

**hotsauceman1**

I bet there would be a dueal Markerlight/railgun kit.

**Ledabot**

You mean rail rifle right? Where talking about pathfinders?

**RogueRegault**

Well, it's been confirmed that Ward wrote the Chaos Demons Codex. Which pretty much confirms Crudacce is writing the Tau Codex, since there's no chance Kelly will let anyone else write Eldar.

I'm going to go put my fist through some drywall.

Who knows, maybe 4th time will be the charm when 2020 rolls around.

**pretre**

RogueRegault wrote:
Well, it's been confirmed that Ward wrote the Chaos Demons Codex. Which pretty much confirms Crudacce is writing the Tau Codex, since there's no chance Kelly will let anyone else write Eldar.

I'm going to go put my fist through some drywall.

Who knows, maybe 4th time will be the charm when 2020 rolls around.

It has been allegedly confirmed that Ward wrote the Chaos Daemons Army Book. Get your somewhat reliable rumors straight.

the Faeit 212 inbox wrote:
I saw some people in the responses wondering about authors. I have the White Dwarf in front of me and Phil Kelly is mentioned as the designer of the Codex, and it isn’t explicitly stated but it seems like Mat Ward is the author of the Fantasy Army Book(there is a section in the back talking about a map that’s included, and that Mat took “a lot of inspiration from Liber Malefic.”

**Kroothawk**

For what it's worth: while Crisis Suits were dropped from the list of required products, Fire Warrior/Hammerheads/GhostSuits were not dropped. The Kroot box was never required, so no insight in that direction.

**CaptKaruthors**

Hopefully, this model range gets an entire overhaul. The FW suits look superior to their plastic counter parts. I hope more pose possibilities with the models. Hopefully, Vespids are worth fielding.

**Enigma Crisis**

pretre wrote:
RogueRegault wrote:
Well, it's been confirmed that Ward wrote the Chaos Demons Codex. Which pretty much confirms Crudacce is writing the Tau Codex, since there's no chance Kelly will let anyone else write Eldar.

I'm going to go put my fist through some drywall.

Who knows, maybe 4th time will be the charm when 2020 rolls around.

It has been allegedly confirmed that Ward wrote the Chaos Daemons Army Book. Get your somewhat reliable rumors straight.

the Faeit 212 inbox wrote:
I saw some people in the responses wondering about authors. I have the White Dwarf in front of me and Phil Kelly is mentioned as the designer of the Codex, and it isn’t explicitly stated but it seems like Mat Ward is the author of the Fantasy Army Book(there is a section in the back talking about a map that’s included, and that Mat took “a lot of inspiration from Liber Malefic.”

Ward definitiely wrote the Daemons of Chaos book. Faeit212 confirmed it with photos from the WD.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/02/confirmations-on-daemon-authors.html

**tetrisphreak**

So are we hopeful for an April tau book or is that still wishful thinking?

**pretre**

tetrisphreak wrote:
So are we hopeful for an April tau book or is that still wishful thinking?

I was thinking it was crazy to allow for that many books, but they are on a freakin' roll.

I now do not see it as impossible that Tau could come out in early Q2.

**Mad4Minis**

paulson games wrote:
I hear the new super suit is going to be crazy good, maybe something like this.

(or not)

Hold on...wait a minute...feth the Tau....where the hell did that plastic (or resin?) Stone Rhino come from, and where can I get 10?

**paulson games**

Mad4Minis wrote:

Hold on...wait a minute...feth the Tau....where the hell did that plastic (or resin?) Stone Rhino come from, and where can I get 10?

Anything is possible when you roll with Xzbit and his crew

He's resin, and 1/144 scale. (that's a 60mm base he's on) It's a custom sculpt from a dude in the philliapines.

PM inbound.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Enigma Crisis wrote:
AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Enigma Crisis wrote:
Jefffar wrote:
hokieseas wrote:
Jefffar wrote:

It is also quite possible that pathfinders will be rerolled into something more combative in the process. What used to be a markerlight on top of the carbine now may become some kind of targeting array or an alternate weapon system. We really don't know. The rumours have mostly been quiet on the Pathfinder front.

I always thought it was odd that the fluff text for the pulse carbines described them as having under slung photon grenade launchers, but the grenades were only defensive weapons. Would be fun to have those reworked into something more offensive for the Pathfinders.

The Photon Grenade Launchers were the reason the Carbines had pinning. Nowadays there is a rule that more closely represents the actual effects of a Photon Grenade and is also far more useful on the tabletop - Blind. I would love to see that switch made, it wouldn't quite save the Pulse Carbine, but I think it would be far closer. Regretably these rumours focus heavily on new units and ignore what is happening to the old familiar units. We know something is up with Crisis Suits, but not a lot about it. We know very little about Broadsides other than a possible price hike. Pathfinders we have heard nothing, ditto Devilfish, Hammerheads and Piranhas. Stealth suits may lose shrouded but may get it back somehow.

There are a lot of gaps in these rumours that need to be filled before I reach for the alarm button or start singing the hallelujah chorus.

Only way I'll start singing Hallelujah is when the new codex comes out and Tau still play like Tau and not a simplified version of the army. One of the aesthetics that drew me back to Tau after I got used to playing 5th edition rules was how unique they played compared to SPESS MAHREEENZ and METAL BAWKSES!! Tau are unique in that they take a lot of skill and critical thinking to play. It's now fun to watch the other players in my LGS look at my codex and be like CHEESE!!! In which I reply no SUSHI!

Hate to ruin your mud slinging, but there's loads of SM lists that require skill and critical thinking too.

Space Marines are more forgiving than Tau are if you make mistakes.

And Space Marines are more vulnerable to variations in die results (i.e. bad luck) than Tau due to rolling overall less dies, evening the whole thing out.

Back on topic: I'm hoping there'll be some use for Shadowsun; I've always entertained the notion of picking up a small Tau force lead by her.

**megatrons2nd**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

And Space Marines are more vulnerable to variations in die results (i.e. bad luck) than Tau due to rolling overall less dies, evening the whole thing out.

Back on topic: I'm hoping there'll be some use for Shadowsun; I've always entertained the notion of picking up a small Tau force lead by her.

Except that 3 tau to every 2 marines is not all that much better, and than when you add in other units the disparagy is greater(ie 1 good battlesuit to 2 termies, 1 for 1 if we choose a poor set up for the battlesuit) at least we currently can get 3 broadsides for a land raider.

**Coyote81**

Are you saying that because Tau just plain out die to a lot of attacks where a space marine would get an armor save, that it evens out because the space marines have to take that armor save and thus suffer from more time of rolling bad dice and failing that armor save? Even if you referring to shooting as well, with an overall BS4 in the C:SM, I still think your logic is very convoluted.

**Harriticus**

paulson games wrote:
I hear the new super suit is going to be crazy good, maybe something like this.

(or not)

Put some skulls on this and you just stole from GW's concept.

**agnosto**

Harriticus wrote:
paulson games wrote:
I hear the new super suit is going to be crazy good, maybe something like this.

(or not)

Put some skulls on this and you just stole from GW's concept.

Naw, it would need a bunch of purity seals and other brickabrack too.

**Savageconvoy**

Coyote81 wrote:
Are you saying that because Tau just plain out die to a lot of attacks where a space marine would get an armor save, that it evens out because the space marines have to take that armor save and thus suffer from more time of rolling bad dice and failing that armor save? Even if you referring to shooting as well, with an overall BS4 in the C:SM, I still think your logic is very convoluted.

He actually isn't wrong with his logic. Lets say you have two sets of dice, one with 10 dice and another with 100. The smaller set will be far more suceptible to variance in the averages while the larger set will for the most part be about average.

But the problem is that space marines don't really have a number issue with Tau. We've both played games where we had fewer model counts than MEQ players. That's kind of the problem with Tau. They have the body count of an elite army, with horde statlines, and pricing somewhere in between. For some reason the developer thought the worst of both worlds would balance out.

**uberjoras**

Crisis suits are okay, costwise and role-wise they're very similar to, say, scout sentinels, warwalkers, or hive guard. It's fire warriors, kroot, stealth suits, piranhas, vespids, and devilfishes that are mainly overcosted for their performance, and should probably get buffs instead of points reductions. More models on the board would make tau feel too much like IG, imo.

**SentientFrog**

I hope the huge combat suit becomes a reality...

**jah-joshua**

there is a BL novel called Fire Cast coming in March...
as there is usually a tie-in novel for each Codex, i would suspect that Tau are just around the corner...

make of that what you will...

cheers
jah

**Mad4Minis**

SentientFrog wrote:
I hope the huge combat suit becomes a reality...

Ill agree.

I have gone with Warmachine instead of 40k, but being as Im a huge mecha fan Im hoping GW does the new battlesuits and the megasuit right. If the are nice Ill pick up one of each to add to my mecha model collection.

**RogueRegault**

agnosto wrote:
Harriticus wrote:
paulson games wrote:
I hear the new super suit is going to be crazy good, maybe something like this.

(or not)

Put some skulls on this and you just stole from GW's concept.

Naw, it would need a bunch of purity seals and other brickabrack too.

Anyone have that picture comparing Tau units to stuff from Rifts World Book 5:Triax and the NGR? Might give us a sneak preview for the new codex. Maybe Tau are getting cyborgs disguised as Khorne Bloodletters.

**Mecha_buddha**

Phragonist wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
Crisis Suits were just dropped from the required products list for GW stockists, so chances are good for a replacement soon.

Now comes the real question of "Will the new crisis suits be better or worse than the current ones?" I'd hate to wait to buy crisis suits, and then they are ugly as turd, and have a hard time finding unpainted old ones. I hope the new ones are not finecast.

Yeah I am in the same boat. I might be the only guy that loves the look of the current crisis suit model. I'm tempted to seek out a Rapid Insertion Force box with 9 crisis suits in case the new suits are too "Land Speeder Vengeance-y".

Plus if the crisis suits are a new plastic kit i assume they will go up from $30 to $40 CAD.