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 Olly wrote:
I to am curious how despoiler squads will be different from tactical squads with bolt pistol/ccw's... possibly grenades/special rules? surely they can't just be the same otherwise why bother with the different name?

Tactical squads using close combat weapons are called Despoiler squads, it's in the description of the models.

cadbren wrote:

 Olly wrote:
I to am curious how despoiler squads will be different from tactical squads with bolt pistol/ccw's... possibly grenades/special rules? surely they can't just be the same otherwise why bother with the different name?

Tactical squads using close combat weapons are called Despoiler squads, it's in the description of the models.

That's... Rather dumb, actually.

 McNinja wrote:

cadbren wrote:

 Olly wrote:
I to am curious how despoiler squads will be different from tactical squads with bolt pistol/ccw's... possibly grenades/special rules? surely they can't just be the same otherwise why bother with the different name?

Tactical squads using close combat weapons are called Despoiler squads, it's in the description of the models.

That's... Rather dumb, actually.

One assumes they'll be troops, however.

It's dumb, and 'despoiler' sounds heretical itself. That does not sound to me like the name of an Imperial unit.

You have to remember, prior to the heresy there was no such thing as heretics, as the emperor was creating a secular world.

Huh, I guess Abbadon was one of those guys then.

Hang on though didnt the reavers squad in Horus Rising have jump packs? The captain was called something like kaius or falkus ekkadon can't remember off the top of my head but I assumed that reavers squads were just the cthonian name for its assault squads.

 Valhallan42nd wrote:

 McNinja wrote:

cadbren wrote:

 Olly wrote:
I to am curious how despoiler squads will be different from tactical squads with bolt pistol/ccw's... possibly grenades/special rules? surely they can't just be the same otherwise why bother with the different name?

Tactical squads using close combat weapons are called Despoiler squads, it's in the description of the models.

That's... Rather dumb, actually.

One assumes they'll be troops, however.

In FW's HH:Betrayal, the basic tactical squad (troop choice) can number 10-20 men, and can swap their bolters for Bolt Pistols and CCW for free.

I don't recall them being called Despoiler squads in the book, though. It might say it in the fluff, but my books are at home.


Edit: Adding links from the Games Day thread in the first post...

They can be anything, As someone mentioned. Heresy was non existant

My first thought when I saw the despoilers was, "pre-Chaos berzerkers." The reavers in particular look like berzerkers, without any of the Khorne aesthetic.

I look at these and see Black Legion Chosen...and then I feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_APOCALYPSE.html


is up for per order

Are Warlords in?

 1hadhq wrote:
Are Warlords in?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/contents-ia-apoc.jpg

There are a number of apoc battle formations at a discount.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/APOCALYPSE_BATTLE_FORMATIONS

Yeah, about that. Help me here.

There is this Necron one.

Includes one Necron Tomb Sentinel and three Necron Tomb Stalkers. This bundle has been put together by the Forge World sales team and is not a battle formation.featured in Imperial Armour Apocalypse.

And for Tyranids as well.

Includes one Tyranid Hierophant Bio Titan, one Tyranid Scythed Hierodule and one Tyranid Barbed Hierodule. This bundle has been put together by the Forge World sales team and is not a battle formation.featured in Imperial Armour Apocalypse.

And so on, and so forth. 7 of the 23 "bundles" on this page are not, in fact, actually bundles.

I like the guys at Forge World, and though I've had plenty of criticism of they QC, I love their modelling, their customer service is pretty good, and they seem like pretty nice guys. However, I operate on a "credit where credit's due" system much like HBMC.

This requires that I call them out on their deceptive and shady practice of selling bundles packaged in with the Apocalypse ones, advertising them as Apocalypse ones in the newsletter, giving them names that imply they are a legitimate formation, and organizing them under \Home\Warhammer 40,000\Apocalypse Battle Formations\ButNotReallyLoL. That's the kind of garbage GWS proper does, not FW, and it's below them.

Unless these are formations under some other book? Please tell me they are and I'm just dumb.

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So, on the other hand - have you guys noticed that the bundles have a discount? I didn't check all of them, but the Ork Dread one is like $30 off, just about 10%. Nice.

 Ouze wrote:
Yeah, about that. Help me here.

There is this Necron one.

Includes one Necron Tomb Sentinel and three Necron Tomb Stalkers. This bundle has been put together by the Forge World sales team and is not a battle formation.featured in Imperial Armour Apocalypse.

And for Tyranids as well.

Includes one Tyranid Hierophant Bio Titan, one Tyranid Scythed Hierodule and one Tyranid Barbed Hierodule. This bundle has been put together by the Forge World sales team and is not a battle formation.featured in Imperial Armour Apocalypse.

And so on, and so forth. 7 of the 23 "bundles" on this page are not, in fact, actually bundles.

I like the guys at Forge World, and though I've had plenty of criticism of they QC, I love their modelling, their customer service is pretty good, and they seem like pretty nice guys. However, I operate on a "credit where credit's due" system much like HBMC.

This requires that I call them out on their deceptive and shady practice of selling bundles packaged in with the Apocalypse ones, advertising them as Apocalypse ones in the newsletter, giving them names that imply they are a legitimate formation, and organizing them under \Home\Warhammer 40,000\Apocalypse Battle Formations\ButNotReallyLoL. That's the kind of garbage GWS proper does, not FW, and it's below them.

Unless these are formations under some other book? Please tell me they are and I'm just dumb.

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So, on the other hand - have you guys noticed that the bundles have a discount? I didn't check all of them, but the Ork Dread one is like $30 off, just about 10%. Nice.

Those ones that are 'missing' are actually noted as not being formations on the site if you look at the descriptions. They are simply bundles to offer you a savings. The Tau air defense cadre saves you 26£ for instance. What I found interesting is that Chaos can now take the Storm Eagle and Thunderhawk now. I'm not entirely surprised, but its nice to see.

It's very tempting at £30 especially with the Vraks stuff.

Preheresy Black Legion Reavers. Black Legion Supplement being released soon. Coincidence, I think not. They look sweet though.

 Ouze wrote:
So, on the other hand - have you guys noticed that the bundles have a discount? I didn't check all of them, but the Ork Dread one is like $30 off, just about 10%. Nice.

The Pylon-formation (which can be found in the book) is 165 GBP.
Buying them separately would come down to 231 GBP.
It's a 75 Euro discount, which is almost 100 dollar!

The Pylon one is amazing. Sadly it comes with 3 of the same type rather than letting you choose.

But yeah, discounted bundles. More proof that Forge World is run by adults, and that GW is run by headless chickens.

Yeah, it's really ironic that their 'daughter-company' is making Games Workshop look bad.

My friend estimated that the "big Titan deal" saves you almost 200GBP.
And GW cannot even cheapen the Angel's Redoubt.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Pylon one is amazing. Sadly it comes with 3 of the same type rather than letting you choose.

But yeah, discounted bundles. More proof that Forge World is run by adults, and that GW is run by headless chickens.

An early picture of a young GW Exec:

The Titan bundle seems like a very big discount with the arms included? My math is off?

Sorely tempted by the Nid bundle. Dam you FW.

So the Stormblade is officially in limbo now?

Or am I mistaken?

(I hope!)

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Stormblade is officially in limbo now?

Or am I mistaken?

(I hope!)

Isn't that being bundled into the new plastic kit? I'll be honest, I can't keep track of the Baneblade variants.

Space marine stuff! Oh my God! Who knew?!

Anyone want to split a Titan force?

 Ouze wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Stormblade is officially in limbo now?

Or am I mistaken?

(I hope!)

Isn't that being bundled into the new plastic kit? I'll be honest, I can't keep track of the Baneblade variants.

This is the Stormblade:



I wish it was available in plastic...

I have to say some of the 'Formations' are good savings for those that are wanting to buy into the Apoc game. For instance the Eldar and Imperial Titan Formations:

Eldar Spirit Defender Host comes out to a savings of £85, or $129.82

The Imperial Tian formation comes out to a savings of £85, or $190.97.