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So. We now have no shortage of Silverwood trees...

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Anvildude wrote:
So. We now have no shortage of Silverwood trees...

Yup.
Someone planted in abosoulte panic. 50 silverwood trees. It lagged me so badly that the entire aura near spawn is completely depleted I will go over to spawn and plant some silverwood trees

I am sitting on at least half a stack of silverwood....

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Australia

Where did someone get 50 saplings lol?

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I smell black magicks.

   
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Also bad thing just happened. Magic doesn't work anywhere at spawn. My wand doesn't charge anymore. We need to move the stupid things. The person spammed so many that the local area has no magical aura which means no magic will work properly including wands, goggles and several other things. We need someone to take down all of the silverwood trees. And spread them out using the saplings across the area one in my area. Which needs to be reworked.

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I dont think magic has worked near spawn for a while, the node dissapeared.

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Chicago, Illinois

 Xeriapt wrote:
I dont think magic has worked near spawn for a while, the node dissapeared.

And the very powerful node at my house has disappeared completely
Which means... I need to have my house moved to a new location. :/ Its the only way I can see it being fixed. Silverwood does not grow in my area at all. My wand stopped working along with my equalvent wand
Hoe of growth has also ceased to work on silverwood trees. I've cut down maybe twenty of them. But the aura is not fixed in my area

I need to either move, and get a new location. Or I wait for Darknnit to fix the issue.

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New York

How does one see/find these nodes?

EDIT: Does anybody have Goggles of Revealing that I could utilize? Or have somebody point out any nodes in proximity to my base?

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 Dr. What wrote:
How does one see these nodes?

Goggles of revealing. I can supply some. I am planning on building a few. Though I can probably only make one more with the limited aura.


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 Dr. What wrote:
How does one see/find these nodes?

nodes are found all over the world. Hollow hills, silver trees or randomly disperised. They are the source of magic and power for thaumturges


This also shows. Please do not plant silverwood trees.... Without investigation it would be good to let us handle it so we don't have something like this happen. (this also causes more issues such as wisps spawning, giant zombies spawning, more thunderstorms and many more things. (I know it was an issue but seriously this seriously destroyed the environment. Consulting instead, of planting every single silverwood tree sapling.)


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 Dr. What wrote:
How does one see/find these nodes?

EDIT: Does anybody have Goggles of Revealing that I could utilize? Or have somebody point out any nodes in proximity to my base?

Yes. Go to spawn, I will supply some.

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Planting heaps of silverwoods wont always be a good way to make a massive node either, I think if the node is under 250 aura and it combines with the silverwood pure node you can end up with a smaller node sometimes.


I think maybe you will have to move your base, or set up a magic crafting secondary base where you can just go to build things.

Nodes can be moved but that is pretty high level thaumaturgy and I think it requires a nether star.

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---------------------------------------------------
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Chicago, Illinois

 Xeriapt wrote:
Planting heaps of silverwoods wont always be a good way to make a massive node either, I think if the node is under 250 aura and it combines with the silverwood pure node you can end up with a smaller node sometimes.


I think maybe you will have to move your base, or set up a magic crafting secondary base where you can just go to build things.

Nodes can be moved but that is pretty high level thaumaturgy and I think it requires a nether star.

Yes it does. I have the research for it and everything.
I'll move my base. :/ Which i spent a solid week on building...


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 Xeriapt wrote:
Planting heaps of silverwoods wont always be a good way to make a massive node either, I think if the node is under 250 aura and it combines with the silverwood pure node you can end up with a smaller node sometimes.


I think maybe you will have to move your base, or set up a magic crafting secondary base where you can just go to build things.

Nodes can be moved but that is pretty high level thaumaturgy and I think it requires a nether star.


Wasn't me that did it. Was a science guy. He didn't know what he was doing.

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 Asherian Command wrote:


Yes. Go to spawn, I will supply some.


I'm not able to get on for a few hours, but if you leave them somewhere at spawn and let me know, I'll pick them up. (If you're okay with that.)
   
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Chicago, Illinois

 Dr. What wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:


Yes. Go to spawn, I will supply some.


I'm not able to get on for a few hours, but if you leave them somewhere at spawn and let me know, I'll pick them up. (If you're okay with that.)

thats fine. I won't be able to sadly. You can ask one of the other guys. I am currently moving my entire setup far away from spawn. (Feels like vanillia all over again)

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Okay, I miscaclulated and I need about a stack more of tin ore, perhaps two to be on the safe side. If you're able to provide it in dust form (so 2-4 stacks of dust) then it saves me having to macerate it all, and 2-4 stacks of bars would be the preferable option.

I can provide fair payment.

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Alrighty. I plan on burning down my house once i get everything from within that i have use for out of it. (ender chests etc.)

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The nodes around spawn disappeared in the first week. It has nothing to do with planting trees. I think someone is overreacting by the sounds of things. Nobody panic.

Yes you can't plant silverwood trees in spawn because there is no aura. I have been slowly bringing a node closer to spawn by planting a silverwood tree slightly closer to spawn each time, so that when the nodes merge, it moves slightly closer. Yes it's going to take a while.

I said that people wanting to use Thaumcraft would be better to spread out, but eh, if you don't listen you don't listen.

Thaumcraft has its bugs at the moment - nodes disappearing and golems falling through the world. If you can put up with these without complaining, feel free to go ahead playing it, but if it's a problem for you, then don't invest so much time in it, because it is a huge time and resource sink.

   
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Panic not those in search of feathers, as 4 UU will create 32 of them
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edit
is it just me that the mining age is green for now?

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 matapata98 wrote:
Panic not those in search of feathers, as 4 UU will create 32 of them
O=UUM, I= blank
IOI
IOI
OIO

edit
is it just me that the mining age is green for now?


It cycles through different colours.

Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.

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that's cool, what symbol is it?
   
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 darkinnit wrote:
The nodes around spawn disappeared in the first week. It has nothing to do with planting trees. I think someone is overreacting by the sounds of things. Nobody panic.

Yes you can't plant silverwood trees in spawn because there is no aura. I have been slowly bringing a node closer to spawn by planting a silverwood tree slightly closer to spawn each time, so that when the nodes merge, it moves slightly closer. Yes it's going to take a while.

I said that people wanting to use Thaumcraft would be better to spread out, but eh, if you don't listen you don't listen.

Thaumcraft has its bugs at the moment - nodes disappearing and golems falling through the world. If you can put up with these without complaining, feel free to go ahead playing it, but if it's a problem for you, then don't invest so much time in it, because it is a huge time and resource sink.

Agreed. So Thats why I'm burning down my house and moving on. :/

Wasn't in panic mode. Just more of "Ah Crap. Not again."
But at least this time it won't take me three weeks to get back to camp. Which also means the mage accords might need to move its home base as it's aura will most likely be drained.

Thus far I have at least 12 back packs with almost everything important inside them (ores and ignots)
So I might need to find a new home that is hopefully something to do with fire or earth. (so a tree might work)

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Whelp. Speaking as possibly one of the only sane members of the Arcane Accords (I think I'll keep that name...), I will do my best to solve some misconceptions.


First- it was not, to my knowledge, anyone in the Accords that planted the saplings. They were surrounding the volcano by spawn, that (I think) 4ourswords lives in- the one with all the buildcraft stuff. I'm not certain who planted them, but it was not me, no Pimpdidley, nor Stormwarriors, nor a few others.


Second- cutting down a Silverwood tree does NOTHING about the Node. The Nodes are there to stay, until they merge or randomly vanish. Too bad.

Third- Nodes provide Vis to an area's Aura. The way this works is as follows:

Area has 50 Vis in the Aura. Someone uses a wand or something, which takes 10 vis from the Aura. The closest node now has 40/50 Vis- other Nodes around it then send some of their Vis to that one, replenishing it to 50/50, so those other Nodes each have (if it was 2 other nodes) 45/50 Vis. Those get replenished by other Nodes, which will each have, say, 48/50, and so on and so forth. This process- the voids in the Nodes, the movement of Aura, all that- can cause Flux.

Flux is absorbed by your local Node. Flux is what happens anytime you Infuse something or Brew something in your Crucible-.

You have aspects on everything you put into a Crucible. Say you're making Thaumium ingots. Thaumium requires Metallo and Praecanto. Metallo's easy- throw some Iron Nuggets in. Praecanto is harder- so you use Chiseled Sandstone. This has both Praecanto and Solum. Solum is not used in the process of making Thaumium, so when you make that ingot, however much Solum you had tossed in your Crucible is now released into the Aura- this is Flux, now. Arcane Alembics capture Flux, as can Tallow Golems with Phials- however, almost nobody has been using either of those things, and I'm certain they haven't been using them in the quantities required to keep any Flux from getting out.

So, everyone with full Thaumium armour, everyone with Wands and Tools and Boots and all those other 'cool' things- you've all been contributing, unless you were using a full Thaumic Workshop setup, which I know nobody was. Darkinnit only just got 4 Arcane Alembics set up at Spawn, even.

I know I'm not innocent either, but I've attempted to limit my impact- I only have a single set of Thaumaturgist's Robes, a Wand of the Apprentice (haven't upgraded) and a single Wand of Excavation. I've created maybe a total of 20 Flux. Others, I'm certain, have created probably levels in the hundreds.

Back to what Flux does. Aura Nodes absorb local Flux- but they don't like it. Flux'ed Nodes are all lightning-y and purple, and they want to get rid of the Flux. So they create Wisps, or generate Storms, or give people sicknesses, or spawn giant Zombies. When any of those things happen, the Flux levels in the Nodes goes down. Eventually they'll rid themselves of all Flux, and be back to being Pure.

Flux does not affect Vis levels (to my knowledge) and Vis levels do not affect Flux. The only reason more silverwood trees can help is that it spreads the Flux around more Nodes- and every Node has a threshold of Flux it can hold and purify without releasing it as Wisps or Storms or whatever.- that, and they provide more Vis, faster, to an area, so you can do more enchanting faster, without having to wait for the local Node to fill from further Nodes- you can draw from any/all of the local Nodes, and they refill each other.



The only way Silverwood trees help is if they're surrounding the place the Flux is being caused! So all you TechHeads that aren't using Thaumcraft- you have no business with Silverwood trees- having Aura Nodes near you merely means that the effects of the Flux discharges will be closer, when they happen.

All you Thaumaturgists? LEAVE. The reason the Red Tower is where it is is because that's close to 0,0. Everyone else who's using Thaumcraft seriously should go at least 1000 blocks away. Use Linker books and Nether travel and Speed potions and Boots of the Traveller and stuff to get back to spawn faster. If you need local Thaumic resources or are just dabbling, use the stuff at Spawn or the eventual setup that will be at the Red Tower- these will both have the proper setup to prevent serious Flux escape or Vis drain. Otherwise, you're gonna continue to have a dozen people all draining and corrupting the same 2 or 3 Nodes, and we'll continue to have problems.


If you don't listen right, I'll sic Pimpdidley on you. Booga Booga. (with Darkinnit's permission, of course).

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Just want to add to that that nodes do recharge vis - slowly, and that silverwood trees create "pura" nodes that eliminate flux - also slowly.

It takes time.

So don't think just because you have a couple of silverwood trees you can go nuts.

   
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also, there are bees that absorb flux too

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Ah yes, thanks to Thaumic Bees, yes there are now bees that process flux into apsects. Thanks for pointing that out matapata

   
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Just a heads up, server doesn't seem to be restarting.
   
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Hmmm... Isn't Avatar supposed to be the Beemancer? Maybe he ought to get on that...


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Sorry I forgot you Matapata. I knew there was someone else out there.

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I've been quite safe too :/

Three tubes though in my grand experiments i do capture alot of the flux generated from experiments. Though I do have three minin stones and a philisophers stone.

I was planning on moving. Problem is getting all my things together and my grand library to move.

Completely agree. I will move with all my items. wish I could make some golems to carry stuff with me.

Plus when I got my thaumium i got mostly stuff like the arcane work bench. Which has a small possible chance of spawning a witch. Which thankful Has not happened yet. But i've also discharged the local flux by doing certain things. (like crystal clusters if i remember correctly)

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