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Tribunal temple, now 400% more expensive. =/



I'll change the dome so it overhangs its rim a little like in the picture perhaps. However can't be bothered...ness has seeped in.

Maybe make it a little shallower? Like two blocks shorter?

Wider and shorter then. Hmn, I sense someone will want to make a bad pun out of that involving my mother somehow....

Hmn, I aught to just reinstall Morrowind and reference that rather than using internet images. However that would force me to replay it as well. ...And well my productivity's low enough already. =)

Just make an insane character who admires Balmora. That way looking at the buildings is playing it.

Hilarity ensues...



...I am not making that. ...Never. Ever. ...Probably. ....Feck.

There's an idea though if you hadn't already go it, link book in the silt strider.

I really want to build this, but unfortunately its a Redoran structure. Then again having that coming out over a canopy would be cool.



And no, I hadn't thought of that.

...Though following that train of thought I'd also have to stick one inside a mage's guild building. ...If I were to build one. ....Feck.

I guess one could just be a portal.

That all looks cool and imma let you finish, but I just want to talk about the 1.5 update for a sec

I've been seeing several tweets and announcements that due to the new resource system (and other under-the-hood changes in 1.6) it's a major amount of work for the update to 1.6

I've been looking at the timeframes between major updates of Minecraft and major FTB modpacks and they just about match, always being one version behind.

In other words, we may not see a FTB 1.6 pack until Minecraft 1.7 is about to come out.

However, I'm going to gather everything I've got together and make a "These are facts" page and then we can vote on whether to reset now for 1.5 (and probably also reset for 1.6) or just wait and reset for 1.6.

In other news, the 1.5 modpack has been updated to "0.8"
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoWBpEX_gP1AdEZNb0VlRkc5M1FHaUhWRkhWaHRyU0E&toomany=true#gid=0

It now includes the Creeper Collateral mod
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1635624-152forgecoremod-creeper-collateral-get-those-blocks-back/
This allows creepers to still destroy things, but all blocks are dropped as items (rather than having most destroyed completely). I'm not sure how it interacts with things like IC2 which demand wrenches or bust.

I've also done some testing (in 0.7) with Biomes O' Plenty and we can have a vanilla overworld, with Mystcraft ages using the BOP biomes. However, you have to enable BOP in your launcher settings before you start Minecraft (it's already in the list, it's just a couple of clicks to enable it). This doesn't seem too difficult a hurdle to have the extra stuff, so I would probably go with that if we went to 1.5

I've shamelessly been playing on a different server for the past few weeks. Building things like this:


Nevertheless, time to give my opinion on this whole 1.5/1.6 debate.

As far as I can see, the only thing we really lose by upgrading to 1.5 is redpower, and gain Biomes O'Plenty, Natura and a Thaumic Tinkerer amongst a few other mods. However, I see no real reason for a reset unless the 'new server world' will have Biomes O' Plenty as the overworld. Otherwise could we not keep the current server, reset the nether and just add a mystcraft age with Biomes O'Plenty in? Then reset if necessary for 1.6? Or am I missing something important here?

Those aren't pagodas!

ExtraBiomesXL is not in the 1.5 pack

So in addition to major holes in your machinery due to Redpower, Xycraft and GregTech vanishing (and Thermal Expansion ID changes) there would also be vast tracts of land bared to stone.

Well Im all for a reset, I'll probably try out some mods I havent delved into yet.


Might make some sort of sciency complex rather than a magic tower.

 darkinnit wrote:
ExtraBiomesXL is not in the 1.5 pack

So in addition to major holes in your machinery due to Redpower, Xycraft and GregTech vanishing (and Thermal Expansion ID changes) there would also be vast tracts of land bared to stone.

Ah. I guess that settles my opinion somewhat firmly on that I'm happy to reset, with a Biomes O'Plenty overworld. However if people would prefer to wait until 1.6, then I'm also happy with that aswell.

I'd much prefer to go to 1.5 now, get it over with.

..and then likely another reset for 1.6

However, given all the overhauls Mojang are making for the ModAPI, and a lot of modders' lack of backwards compatibility, I'd predict required resets for every major Minecraft update, certainly at least until the promised ModAPI is released.

 darkinnit wrote:
..and then likely another reset for 1.6

However, given all the overhauls Mojang are making for the ModAPI, and a lot of modders' lack of backwards compatibility, I'd predict required resets for every major Minecraft update, certainly at least until the promised ModAPI is released.

You'd think by now mcedit could have an addon to purge unwanted blocks or convert them to something else by now.

I thought it did

There's also Midas Touch. However, the changes are all a bit drastic for any "just run a block replace utility" solutions.

When would the ETA be for the 1.5 reset then if you were to do that? I'm biased I suppose as I don't use much of the stuff that's being stripped out by that patch, so I guess its up to those who do use that stuff heavily to provide their opinions on whether they could see it go or not. Meh, I'd prefer a reset sooner rather than later, but again, if someone's commited to a project and would like to see it finished they may rather wait until the latter update instead.

Ever since I said the R word, the server's been pretty much dead

Not sure on any ETAs at the minute, especially as the 1.5 pack isn't actually officially out yet. If you had to push me and say hypothetically the 1.5 pack was out and people decided they wanted to switch to it, then maybe a week from then?

Would a reset be a must for the switch to 1.6 from 1.5?

Yeah, I kind of predicted that. There was an exodus on the Tekkit one too I imagine.

Which begs the question of; if there's nobody playing it then why not just update it? Give people a deadline to finish off their stuff/copy it down or whatever then go for the update. ...You should have just updated it over night without telling anyone and gone quiet for a week. Post the chat logs up in some psychological journal and let the money role in.* =)

*Why I'm not a mod.

 darkinnit wrote:
Ever since I said the R word, the server's been pretty much dead

Not sure on any ETAs at the minute, especially as the 1.5 pack isn't actually officially out yet. If you had to push me and say hypothetically the 1.5 pack was out and people decided they wanted to switch to it, then maybe a week from then?

I noticed that too,
Hey, if I could properly make a script that uses https://code.google.com/p/midas-gold/ to remove/change all block ID's that cause problems (and therefore not need to reset) would you be game? This would sort of cause the same "issues" as when new versions of minecraft came out in vanilla with the jungle biome needing new chunks and such.

I just want to start my project I've been holding off cause of the reset

I keep having to repeat the same answers to the same questions over and over, so I will be writing a page up at some point so people don't have to trawl the thread.

Here's the short answers for now.

Can we carry stuff over in a reset?
No

Will there be a reset for 1.5-1.6
Almost certainly.
Same for 1.6-1.7 and so on until at least the mod api and even then modders still like to throw away or change functionality.

Can't we just use MCEdit/Midas Gold?
No. Biomes have changed drastically (that's why biome mods are now disabled by default) and block replacing just doesn't cut it. The world generation is completely different. Not to mention that some mod blocks that are still "the same" have completely different functionality and will break.

But!
No

Not even just if its modular power armour due to being a standalone mod?

If you're going to FAQ it you needed more.

Darkinnit will there be a reset in between 24.8 and 24.9?

You, I do in fact deserve a slap. ^^'

 darkinnit wrote:

Can't we just use MCEdit/Midas Gold?
No. Biomes have changed drastically (that's why biome mods are now disabled by default) and block replacing just doesn't cut it. The world generation is completely different. Not to mention that some mod blocks that are still "the same" have completely different functionality and will break.

I dont understand this part, if your crap gets dumped into a different biome, or a bunch of blocks would have generated differently if they were generated, that doesn't break the world.

 Grundz wrote:

 darkinnit wrote:

Can't we just use MCEdit/Midas Gold?
No. Biomes have changed drastically (that's why biome mods are now disabled by default) and block replacing just doesn't cut it. The world generation is completely different. Not to mention that some mod blocks that are still "the same" have completely different functionality and will break.

I dont understand this part, if your crap gets dumped into a different biome, or a bunch of blocks would have generated differently if they were generated, that doesn't break the world.

I seem to remember a certain someone who was "rather annoyed" when it started snowing on his castle after a biome update.... So much so that he abandoned the whole area.