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I meant use slime mobs to get excessive amounts of mob essence. No soul shards needed.

I know, but setting up a slime farm for no reason besides essence then another one for what you want is more work than setting up a soul shard farm for one of the mobs you want

I'd still maintain that setting up a slime farm is a lot less work than killing 1024 of the thing you want to spawn and a lot more fun too. Also once you have one, you can easily redirect that essence to spawn something different. You don't have to go kill another 1024 things.

 darkinnit wrote:
I'd still maintain that setting up a slime farm is a lot less work than killing 1024 of the thing you want to spawn and a lot more fun too. Also once you have one, you can easily redirect that essence to spawn something different. You don't have to go kill another 1024 things.

you dont need a tier 5 shard, tier like 2 or 3 works fine temporarily

Also getting a tier 5 took all of 20 minutes once I found the giant trench in the mining age, ceilinged over a segment, and made a farm that dumps all the mobs into an easy to kill container

Just like you don't need a tier 5 shard, you don't need a slime farm for MFR if you don't need that many mobs spawned. I have a system where the same two cows are bred over and over and when the baby cows grow up they are slaughtered for their mob essence.

It would never keep a mob spawner running constantly, but it does slowly fill up the tank while the spawner is off, allowing me to go turn the spawner on when I need items.

Soul shards just seems very grindy and boring to me, where as MFR encourages fun and interesting systems.

Getting souls is easy once you get the soulstealer enchant.

Also unless something has changed with how the mod works you can just breed a crap ton of chickens or some other friendly mob, kill them and combine the soulshard of the chicken with the soulshard of x creature to get a t5 shard of whatever your making a mob grinder of.

Thats how I got a t5 ghast shard at least.


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Is mfr minefactory reloaded?

MFR is Minefactory reloaded yes.

Also the combining shards in an anvil thing was a bug and has been fixed (you can't do it anymore).

 darkinnit wrote:
Just like you don't need a tier 5 shard, you don't need a slime farm for MFR if you don't need that many mobs spawned. I have a system where the same two cows are bred over and over and when the baby cows grow up they are slaughtered for their mob essence.

It would never keep a mob spawner running constantly, but it does slowly fill up the tank while the spawner is off, allowing me to go turn the spawner on when I need items.

Soul shards just seems very grindy and boring to me, where as MFR encourages fun and interesting systems.

But is that going to crash the server? I DIDNT THINK SO

 Grundz wrote:
But is that going to crash the server? I DIDNT THINK SO

Wha..?


Anywayyyyy....

Now for an announcement

On the Unleashed server I probably won't nerf gravity/portal gun from grabbing mob spawners and I won't nerf the minium stone durability.

My reasons for this is that those two features overpowerednessness pales in comparison to some of the overpowerednessness coming in DartCraft...

Nukes will still disabled and portal moon shots will still be nerfed due to them having very few practical uses versus the chances of them just being used to grief or annoy.

 darkinnit wrote:

Also the combining shards in an anvil thing was a bug and has been fixed (you can't do it anymore).

:( Looks like I need to look into these MFR spawners then. I'm not murdering over a thousand Wither Skeletons.

Pity, that could have been a mechanic. A chicken soul is worth say 0.1 zombie souls, or 0.(something silly) ghast souls. Though I suppose that would require undue amounts of scripting + adding a new object to allow to do this, rather than just the regular anvil (as you'd need to edit how the anvil worked probably, thus causing mod conflicts). =P

Seems all the things I thought were features were bugs and all the bugs were features lol.

Is there a way to just dispose of XP orbs? This current, apparently obsolete, system makes too many.

Darkinnit wrote:Soul shards just seems very grindy and boring to me, where as MFR encourages fun and interesting systems.

I kinda feel the opposite way, in that soul shards are simplistic and self-sustaining (a must for anything I put time into) but MFR spawners seem to make use of many complex things working together. And as one auto-grinder cannot sustain one auto-spawner, how do I create an perfect closed system? One small soul shard, working to make up for shortfall?

 4oursword wrote:
Is there a way to just dispose of XP orbs? This current, apparently obsolete, system makes too many.

it would be nice at least to have them decay rapidly, I hate being blinded by them whenever I walk past a grinder and they are collected easily enough when they are wanted

 4oursword wrote:
Is there a way to just dispose of XP orbs? This current, apparently obsolete, system makes too many.

Lava works well. Zombie brain in a jar also can store a certain amount.

 4oursword wrote:
And as one auto-grinder cannot sustain one auto-spawner, how do I create an perfect closed system? One small soul shard, working to make up for shortfall?

Don't bother reading any of my previous posts then

Also btw who wants to fight the enderdragon before getting soul shards

 darkinnit wrote:

 4oursword wrote:
Is there a way to just dispose of XP orbs? This current, apparently obsolete, system makes too many.

Lava works well. Zombie brain in a jar also can store a certain amount.

 4oursword wrote:
And as one auto-grinder cannot sustain one auto-spawner, how do I create an perfect closed system? One small soul shard, working to make up for shortfall?

Don't bother reading any of my previous posts then

Sorta skipped the details, sorry. It seems a lot more plausible now.

cptprice0330 wrote:
Also btw who wants to fight the enderdragon before getting soul shards

Why would you need to do that? You can get enderpearls perfectly easily in the overworld.

What if we trap an enderdragon in a safari ball and then put it in a spawner?

Anvildude wrote:

cptprice0330 wrote:
Also btw who wants to fight the enderdragon before getting soul shards

Why would you need to do that? You can get enderpearls perfectly easily in the overworld.

you need end stone

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
What if we trap an enderdragon in a safari ball and then put it in a spawner?

NEEDS TO BE DONE

 The Dark Apostle wrote:

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
What if we trap an enderdragon in a safari ball and then put it in a spawner?

NEEDS TO BE DONE

I'm just picturing a special age that has a sky full of Ender Dragons. However, couldn't they destroy the spawner by touching it?

Yes they could, we'd need to defend it somehow...

cptprice0330 wrote:

Anvildude wrote:

cptprice0330 wrote:
Also btw who wants to fight the enderdragon before getting soul shards

Why would you need to do that? You can get enderpearls perfectly easily in the overworld.

you need end stone

Wait, what? For what? The Soul Forge is obsidian and Vile Whatnot, and isn't Vile Dust (or whatever the stuff you use to cook it) just cooked up Soul Sand? Shards are just made from ...

Oh. The mod changed, didn't it. Oh my.

Gah, from my testing I'm seeing that a Biomes o Plenty mystcraft age is nowhere near as good as a Biomes o Plenty overworld. :( It's like a shadow of its former self.

It's hard to describe, but to sum it up, it seems Biomes o Plenty is at its best when it's in control of its own biomes, rather than Mystcraft taking the reins.

It also doesn't help that if you don't make the age crazy enough, the new Mystcraft grammar system likes to add in extra changes whether you want them or not (i.e. I added caves, ravines, mineshafts, villages, dungeons and strongholds, but Mystcraft was like "nahhhh, you need nether fortresses too, I'll just add those in for you", another attempt it decided obelisks would be nice and on another it decided dirt terrain all the way to bedrock would be better than pretty biomes).

So... decisions...

Don't add BoP (vanilla biomes means maximum forward compatibility with future modpacks)

Add BoP and have a BoP overworld (and nether & promised land) with all the fun and prettiness that it brings (there's a 1.6 BoP available already so worst case we could always try manually adding it if it was completely dropped)

I'm too tired to make a decision tonight so I'll sleep on it. Feel free to add your own opinions.

I vote for having BoP with a BoP overworld.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Yes they could, we'd need to defend it somehow...

Is there anything that they can't phase out?

Or we could just put a bunch in the realm with warning signs. If players don't go near, then the dragons won't (hopefully).

Warded blocks?

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Warded blocks?

Could work.

I need to get FTB working on my laptop again. I don't even remember what most of the items do anymore.

Warded blocks are essentially Bedrock that can be placed- but it can only be picked up by the person who placed it.


So never, EVER use a Turtle to place warded stone or glass or doors or ANYTHING.