Feed The Beast Revelation Server (Minecraft)

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**Anvildude**

Aww, but exploring a volcano lair to disable a DNA encoder sounds like so much fun!

**cptprice0330**

darkinnit wrote:
I don't have time tonight to download the world, explore a volcano lair and find a DNA encoder, so instead I just enabled the server config option that deletes erroring blocks.

You probably have plenty of resources to make a new one

Server is working again.

I have many of them

**4oursword**

Yays, server is back. How many more steam locomotives do i need

**Absolutionis**

It's crazy that whenever we mention the server being down, Darkinnit is summoned.

Maybe if we perform this ritual a few more times, Darkinnit will start playing again.

**Melissia**

Breaking the server just to get Dark's attention seems like a dick move

What's the most efficient way to carry RF? I don't know what the loss rate of the pipes are...

**Minx**

Melissia wrote:
What's the most efficient way to carry RF? I don't know what the loss rate of the pipes are...

The TE3 conduits are lossless and have infinite throughput capacity. Maximum in- and output per side is 10000 RF/t for the highest tier. EnderIOs conduits are similar and their maximum is about 20000 RF/t.
TEs Tesseracts have no intrinsic limit and can be quite useful to transfer power over larger distances.

**Melissia**

Ah, good. What's the storage block I should use, then?

I mean, I guess I could use redstone energy cells, but meh, they're somewhat of a pain to make.

**darkinnit**

Absolutionis wrote:
It's crazy that whenever we mention the server being down, Darkinnit is summoned.

Maybe if we perform this ritual a few more times, Darkinnit will start playing again.

It's not that I don't want to play, but rather that I don't currently have much free time to do so. I can usually make exceptions for fixing server or player problems, but that's about it for the time being.

I have been making slow progress on preparing the server update, but still don't have much more to tell just yet. I have seen that they are looking at doing another update in the next week or so.

**4oursword**

@Melissa- EnderIO adds Capacitor Banks which have quite good storage, retain charge when picked up, and can be made into multiblocks to expand storage space further.

**Melissia**

I'll take a look, hopefully they'll be less of a pain to make than Redstone Energy Cells.

**Absolutionis**

Hah. They're even more of a pain to make than Redstone Energy Cells.

You need to chain Capacitors into Advanced Capacitors using pulverized coal and a decent amount of steel.

If you want to store RF in a cheap manner, just make Leadstone Energy cells. You just need glass, copper, lead, and redstone. If you want a more fancy version, you can then just upgrade those to Hardened Energy cells with Invar ingots.

No need to mess with the Fluid Transposer and such with the lower two tiers of RF storage cells. If space isn't a concern and you just want RF storage, Leadstone and Hardened Energy cells work fine.

EDIT: Typo

**Matt.Kingsley**

Capacitor banks aren't too annoying to make nor are they that expensive. That's why I love EnderIO, it's mid range stuff is between TEs tier 2 and 3 items and are quite cheap.

Double Layered capacitors are probably the most annoying part of the banks, and that's only because EnderIO silicon is a random result of grinding sand, it isn't guarantied.

EDIT: Eh, I feel Cells are annoying, just as they require more machines and power to make. I love banks, indeed I use them to store all my power, if only because they are multiblocks XD.

**4oursword**

Ach. Damn these Magical Crops seeds, they keep disappearing from my auto machines. I made two redstone seeds, left the machine to run for a while and came back to find 5 of them (no idea how). Thought to myself "fantastic." Today when I get on the server? Nowhereto be found. I tore apart the machine that was farming them looking for them- not a sausage. The coal seeds next to them and using the same mechanism are all still there, but my redstone ones have disappeared. Talk about annoying.

**Absolutionis**

Do they outright just disappear over time?

Cptprice seems to have a fairly successful Magic Crop farm near spawn. What is he doing differently?

**4oursword**

Using Golems, for a start.
I've had a similar problem in the past with a water seed and 2 earths just vanishing.

**Melissia**

Yeah, golems seem to be more reliable, especially more than pipes are.

**Anvildude**

Guess what? Sometimes machines harvest things either too quickly or with a different mechanism than when you manually harvest them. Some mods, especially Magic mods, don't want you to be able to use their plants in auto-harvest machines. It's one of the ways of increasing rarity and thus value.

Often, though, those mods will have ways of either increasing the yield or improving the growth rate. Try making a regular old, large area farm. You know, like you used to do with wheat? Then just plant, gather seeds, plant, gather seeds, until you've gotten enough that you can leave a large field for a while while you do other stuff, and then simply harvest the whole thing all at once!

I know some plants, like Wormwood in the new Witchery update, have a 'second stage' of growth, and that second stage is what drops the most seeds. But auto-harvesters generally don't realize that they need to wait for the growth, and so pop a non-mature plant- getting, maybe, the 'fruit', but not getting enough seeds over time to have sustainable harvests.

**4oursword**

I just did a basic timer + block breaker + auto activator system, with Watering Cans to accelerate growth. Magical crops has a standard drop and the chance of a rare drop, but that rare drop only works if manually harvested. Auto activators don't allow the second rare drop to appear.

**Melissia**

That's why the golems work so well.

**4oursword**

Aye. The next versions of the pack add MFR support which fixes the issue.

**cptprice0330**

Magic crops is a bit buggy with auto farming golems were the best way I found ,until we get MFR support that is

**Xeriapt**

Yeah Ive just used golems with magical crops so far and its been fine.

**Deathklaat**

ok i have hit a bit of a slowdown in my building on the server. I am making extensive use of Frost Bound blocks from Railcraft.

i have started to automate the process with TE3 and a Glacial Precipitator for all of my ice block needs. I am running into a problem with the blue dye portion, i was using blue dyed tree saplings and just chopping them down but i would like to speed this process up.

I looked into Minefactory Reloaded's planter and harvester and tried to set up a system in single player to see if i could make it work. I have my system set up and the harvester works fine but the planter just sits there doing nothing.

If anyone could shed some light on this id appreciate it, id really hate to have to stand in front of the harvester with saplings and bonemeal.

**Anvildude**

Not sure if Indigo flowers are on, or any of the other Blue Dye flowers. Could make a SMURF or an auto-flowerer. Actually pretty easy with deployers and hoppers- you can make them in Vanilla now.

Or you could always go with Lapis Bees.

Or maybe you could extract blue dye from blue wool, and grow it on blue sheep?

**Minx**

Deathklaat wrote:
I looked into Minefactory Reloaded's planter and harvester and tried to set up a system in single player to see if i could make it work. I have my system set up and the harvester works fine but the planter just sits there doing nothing.

If anyone could shed some light on this id appreciate it, id really hate to have to stand in front of the harvester with saplings and bonemeal.

The planter doesn't work with all saplings. As an alternative you could try planting the saplings with an autonomous activator, maybe some other kind of automatic block placer or with a force field.

**Deathklaat**

i realized that with dyed trees i pretty much need to stand there to collect the dyes and items that drop from them when cut down as the harvester doesn't do that.

What i can do is upgrade the harvester to cover a much larger area for my tree killing needs.

**Melissia**

You could theoretically leave gaps between the trees leading to an underground collection area, using watter or something to push the dyes in to a hopper. Or some other similar collection method.

**Absolutionis**

You could use an Item Collector or Advanced Item collector. It's a decent; low-lag device that scans an areas constantly for items and 'poofs' them into the inventory below.

http://randomthingsminecraftmod.wikispaces.com/Item+Collector

**Anvildude**

Or you could use golems to collect the drops and put them in a chest for you.

Or a ton of hungry chests. Or just replace all the ground around with hoppers.

**4oursword**

Openblocks Vacuum Hoppers sound like a good one to use here. Fans and Conveyor belts leading to Vacuum hoppers, more so. I had a design for this kind of thing, I shall put it into blocks and post a screenie.