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**Melissia**

Oooh, forgot about fans. Yes, fans sound wonderful!

Even if all yo udo is push the dyes in to a wall with a crevasse that has hoppers, it'd still work.

**4oursword**

Might be worth checking the Planter in newer versions of Monster. Support might have been added.

**Grey Templar**

Don't obsidian pipes also suck items in?

Pretty large area too.

**Absolutionis**

Vacuum hoppers are slow and laggy. Obsidian pipes are short-ranged or require power. Fans and conveyors are obstructive and unnecessary when it comes to just items.

Item Collectors are a single block you place, set their range, and forget about. They poof items within a given height as well. I use it on my Rainbow Tree farm.

Their only drawback is that they'll grab *any* item within their range... including blocks you break while building.

If anyone wants to see them in action, just stop by my base.

**Deathklaat**

i did figure it was that newer versions of monster would have the planter working, one vid was using another mod's dyed trees and worked fine in the planter but wouldnt work in mine.

so the item collector will knock trees down or would that still require the havester?

how do item collectors integrate with RF as that is my source of power.

I am really only after the blue dye and lapis that drops from the blue trees, the wood that can be made into charcoal will be and the rest will be used to power a steam dynamo to power the tree farm.

i did see in another video a system that used fans and conveyors but that is well beyond anything i am capable of making right now. ( i have a basic RF setup with a few TE3 machines)

**4oursword**

Item collector just picks items up. You'll still need to break the trees.

**Absolutionis**

The MFR Harvester still works on Dye Trees. It's programmed to detect and chop down large groups of logs, and Dye Trees use vanilla and mod logs. It's just that the MFR Planter doesn't recognize Dye Trees saplings.

**4oursword**

Auto Placers would work for planting as far as I'm aware. They're crafted with the same sort of recipe as the Dispenser (i think it uses one in the crafting). If not, the Autonomous activator will definitely plant it.

**Deathklaat**

i will look into these machines and see how they work, im more curious how they will interact with TE3 power.

**Minx**

Deathklaat wrote:
i will look into these machines and see how they work, im more curious how they will interact with TE3 power.

The autonomous activator is a TE3 machine and does not need any power, vacuum hoppers or item collectors likewise function without power. You just need to connect the mfr harvester to cut down the trees with a TE3 or EnderIO conduit.

**Absolutionis**

Hey Grey Templar, did you ever get the crash-when-loading onto the server problem worked out? I seem to have run into the same issue ever since updating the launcher.

Single player works just fine. Multiplayer crashes and closes program when trying to join server.

**Grey Templar**

Haven't tried recently, but I did get a prompt to update the launcher recently. Didn't do it. Maybe it'll fix it

Edit: nope, still getting the micro-dump error

I heard I need to update my video card driver to fix it. How do you do that exactly?

**Absolutionis**

So I've been reading up on crash reports and why this is happening.

I'm suffering the same problem as these folks: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2077119-crashed-out-of-the-server-and-cant-log-in-again/

Notably this specifically:

I never had this error until two days ago and on that day I was close to maxing my Thaumcraft research. I experienced the crash later that day and thought nothing of it. Then I did more Thaumcraft research the next day and experienced another crash in the same day, followed by a server restart. Yes that's right I didn't crash this time, the server merely restarted and after trying to log back in I got the above crash report.

Seems that a temporary solution is to roll back my player data? Darkinnit, I was joking about invoking you whenever a problem arises, but is this a possibility that I can be rolled back in time slightly? Perhaps even teleported back to spawn?

Additionally, it seems that the problem arises when maxing out Thaumcraft research which I just completely finished yesterday? Or maybe that's just rumorstuffs.

I'm able to play Singleplayer just fine.

Another find of some guy with the same problem as me in terms of a crash report: https://github.com/Azanor/thaumcraft/issues/579

Also a Thaumcraft issue. Note that Monster v1.0.9 runs Thaumcraft 4.0.5

Deleted the FTB Data and reinstalled Minecraft and FTB and it didn't work. Updated graphics card and reinstalled Java, and it didn't work.

And yet another instance of the same crash log regarding player data corruption from Thaumcraft: https://mineyourmind.net/forum/threads/game-crashes-on-joining-a-server.727/

Seems to be solved by the Admin rolling back or deleteing/replacing the player.dat file. Perhaps Grey Templar is witnessing something similar in that his player data is corrupted?

EDIT 2: More information that seems this is a Thaumcraft 4.0.5 problem in this modpack from doing a bit of Google-fu
https://github.com/Azanor/thaumcraft/issues/355
https://github.com/Azanor/thaumcraft/issues/372
http://www.themobocracy.com/forum/threads/crash-report-thaumcraft.49/

**4oursword**

Is anyone any good at Blood Magic? Got a couple of questions for any adept alchemists.

**Xeriapt**

Iv worked on blood magic for a fair while now.

What would you like to know?

**Deathklaat**

ok i finally got a system that works, still some bugs but it does its thing all by itself.

i have the harvester and flanking it on either side are autonomous activators one for blue saplings one for white. next to each of those is another autonomous activator providing bonemeal.
in the middle there is a vacuum hopper that sucks up all the junk dropped on the ground.

so what goes in the hopper immediately gets the bonemeal filtered out and split to the 2 applying the bone meal, everything else moves along and hooks up with the harvester pipe.
this is where the white and blue saplings get filtered out and go to their own activator, everything else moves along.
I then have another diamond pipe that pulls out most types of wood that can be made into charcoal and dumps them into a hopper-fed chest that leads to a redstone furnace.
All other wood gets put into another hopper-fed chest that leads to the steam dynamo that powers the whole system.

apples, white and blue dye and lapis all go into storage, the charcoal will eventually be networked into my glacial precipitators and some other machines.

**4oursword**

Xeriapt wrote:
Iv worked on blood magic for a fair while now.

What would you like to know?

Just a couple of bits about Rituals:
How do you fuel a ritual?

How do you set up a ritual (specifically, Ritual of the Green Grove)?

Is there a way to fuel a ritual passively (not needing lots of player interaction)?

How far into Blood Magic are rituals?

**Xeriapt**

4oursword wrote:
Xeriapt wrote:
Iv worked on blood magic for a fair while now.

What would you like to know?

Just a couple of bits about Rituals:
How do you fuel a ritual?

How do you set up a ritual (specifically, Ritual of the Green Grove)?

Is there a way to fuel a ritual passively (not needing lots of player interaction)?

How far into Blood Magic are rituals?

Rituals are fueled by life essence which you need a blood orb and a blood altar to start gaining, also either a sacrificial knife(to use your own hp as life force) or a dagger of sacrifice to kill mobs near your altar to generate life essence. So right there its costing a few diamonds to get started.

To set up a ritual you need to craft ritual stone and then mark them with dyes crafted in the blood alter, or you can make a ritual diviner which basically will use blank ritual stones from your inventory and auto place/mark the blocks for you when you right click with it.

Rituals require an activation by player plus an initial life force cost, then depending on the ritual they will continue to create an effect. So the ritual of the green grove costs 250 life force to activate (i think its 100 life force is equal to 1 heart), then it will consume 20 life force a second to grow the plant above the ritual.

Rituals can be turned on and off using a lever.

If you try to activate something and you have no life force from your altar it will directly drain your life to the point where you will die. Anything that drains life force overtime like the ritual of the green grove will give you the nausea debuff if you run out of life force untill you have enough to pay the upkeep, so it wont kill you.

So rituals can be made pretty early but having the altar setup to create enough life force is the time consuming part.

This is the wiki I used to get started if you want look into it more http://ftbwiki.org/Blood_Magic

**4oursword**

So it looks like there's no passive LP generation mechanic? Like a grinder for Life essence? Shame. Ah well, my crops grow fast enough anyway

Thanks man!

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Aha, well of suffering. Hmm...

**cptprice0330**

Well of suffering works well I have a villager spawner set up with one to keep my archmage good orb full

**Matt.Kingsley**

Yeah, you can automate it, it just takes a bit of work.

On another note, does anyone have an efficient design of BigReactor? I decided I finally needed a more permanent power source for my base that won't run out super-quick

**Absolutionis**

Thank you for the rollback, Dark.

It seems to have worked.

Note to all: Don't research too far into Thaumcraft and scan everything.

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Whatever Grey Templar's problem is logging in, perhaps it could be remedied by outright deleting his character file? He hasn't built anything nor played at all, so I doubt it'd do anything harmful.

**Grey Templar**

Pretty sure the problem is on my end.

I haven't had time to research on mini dumps and how to enable them.

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Pretty sure the problem is on my end.

I haven't had time to research on mini dumps and how to enable them.

**4oursword**

Any thaumaturges want to sell me some more things? I need ~16 void jars, I completely forgot to buy them when I got that earlier stuff

I have ordinary jars, if that's what is needed to craft them (I have no idea what is). I can supply Raw Materials or can pay with Iron or Tin Blocks, and other things as requested individually.

I've decided I'll use a Cactus farm to fuel my lamps of growth, but that means disposing of the non-herba aspects.

**dsteingass**

Anyone have any idea why there has to be a railroad track running directly under my unfinished wall at spawn?

**Melissia**

Is that the one that leads to the railroad track that's over the ocean?

**dsteingass**

Yeah, it just goes on and on and then ends. it has a car running back and forth on auto, doing something I presume.

**Melissia**

I think someone was trying to set up a railway connection to spawn to many other players' homes, but it's been so long :/

**dsteingass**

That's fine and all, but it could've been 2 blocks away rather than right under my wall.

**4oursword**

I think me and Anvildude had that thought when we were still entertaining the thought of a custom modpack which excluded Mystcraft, but I didn't think anyone would act on it.