Grimdork Hobby Time! The successor

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**GrimDork**

I came on the scene at the tail end of Vanilla. I think the first expansion hit when I was 40-50ish with my first dude.

World PvP was always hilarious but I dunno about the community on my server(s).

**Archer**

I go away for a week with work and look at how much discussion has happened in the world of Grim. Loving all those different workspaces. Would love to have one of my very own instead of inhabiting our dining table and having to put up with my wife nagging about paint everywhere....

**GrimDork**

Heh, yeah, I've got a decent set-up in this house (finally) if I can just get it all cleaned up and organized. I used to keep my computer desk in a closet, and then it's been in the livingroom of various places we've lived (bedroom is pointless as then how can I use it while wife is sleeping), finally in it's own office.

Hopefully there will be some more update action going on. I've figured out what kind of markers I'm gonna use for battle systems (sharpies, really light ones), and I've still got some brush on glue so I'll be moving forward with that as I go. I think I'll assemble all of the walls and then line them up and divide them in half for making my ships.

Gonna do a bit more of that tonight and then get to bed so I'm not too tired tomorrow. This weekend hopefully I can take pictures of well.. anything

**Azazelx**

How did you get the purplish markings on those green infinity aliens? I'm wanting to rip that look off for a big slug-thing I found on my painting desk.

**GrimDork**

The whole skin tone or just the purple dots?

The skin is a 3:1 mix of lust pink and demon skin (minitaire paints), which is painted on all of the skin. Then that's either blotched or striped or otherwise broken up, kind of like camo almost, by a 1:1 mix of pestilence flesh and snow white (still minitaire). Last is the little dots, in ecchymose (darkish purple).

Of course it's one of mine, so the whole thing is dipped in Tudor stain. A couple of washes of black/brown or even green would do the same job though.

Got most/all of the wall bits popped out for my stronghold set. I've still got 6 more sheets of walls from the clean/infested add-ons I got. Supergluing weak contact points before trying to use them is definitely superior, as long as you test-fit them before doing so. Gonna get all of my walls and such popped out and assembled and then array them to see how many I get for each ship.

**Paradigm**

Have to say, the idea of two ships and playing boarding actions has a ton of potential for fun games! Any idea what rules you'd use? I think Infinity or DZ would be too unwieldy with the number of minis you'd be using, so I'd go for 40k, and this free expansion:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=fVklVJ2mIuH-ywPkgYH4BA&url=http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/z/ZM6thUpdate.pdf&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEsiXFc63jT8Codo8s6RpuACq2DPA&sig2=0ZT5AZdMRlQmaNl717eEXQ

Having played it, it really does feel like a totally different game to your standard 40k match. To sum it up, here's a few things it includes:
Unique missions/force setups
More brutal reaction fire rules balanced by more dangerous consequences for losing an assault
Rules for fighting in vacuums
Rules for the ship coming under fire, parts blowing up ect
Rules that disguise enemy units until you get los to them (think Infinity TO camo but on a squad basis)

**GrimDork**

Zone Mortalis huh, I've heard of it. I'm not going to have a 2x2' section of board though. I think Infinity may work alright, the ships would be big enough to have more dudes, but if we assume that the crew has gone to ground and it's only soldiers on the prowl...

Which edition of 40k does that link apply to? The last one or has it been updated (in which case I don't have the matching rule set

).

**Paradigm**

That one is for 6th edition, although there's a 5th-compatible version out there. I don't think any of the changes in 7th would effect it much at all.

You don't really need the 2x2 sections, in theory you could just add those rules on a flat 6x4 board, although that would somewhat miss the point!

**adamsouza**

WOW was like a part time job that cost you money and wasn't particularly good for your health and relationships.

Absolutely nothing like the countless money and hours spent buying, assembling, and painting miniatures and terrain,,,,,,

**GrimDork**

@Paradigm I meant that the amount of battle systems I have to make up my two ships would only be something like 2x2' total with a few areas of extra height, so I dunno if that's enough to play the ZM game upon. Would be packed pretty close for Infinity but tighter areas and lots of broken LoS may make up for it.

@Adam, heh yeah pretty much on both counts

**Paradigm**

Oh, I see what you mean now! Infinity should work then, so long as you bring a ton of cover!

**GrimDork**

Well everything is going to be divided into rooms in sections of 4", so 4x4" cubes, or 4x8" rooms, or 8x12" sections, you get the idea.

Kind of like this but in 3d at 28mm scale:

With all of my walls split in half and two ships with different designs. For boarding actions I may have them side-by-side docked and maybe with a breach as well.

So with all of the compartments, hackable doors, tons and tons of crates and stuff jutting out from the walls... should make up for the close quarters. Shotguns would be king.

**Azazelx**

I thought that was the Znutar for a moment. Sadly, not.

**GrimDork**

Looks like some kind of boardgame? Nah that's the default ship for that FTL: Faster than Light game.

Since they're what I said I'm doing next... primed 10 more Mars Attacks minis, total of 11 ready now. Gonna get cracking on those when the urge to paint arises.

**GrimDork**

So here's a little more BS terrain, the med-wall computer/displays, and the medi-bed. Also included are the DZ dead figures:

So the dead figures are all flat on one side except the enforcer, you could *almost* use him as some kind of alt-pose if so inclined.

May trickle a few more images in later, though there may be family visiting time too, hard to say.

**Paradigm**

That BS stuff does look really, really nice! I doubt I'll pick up the DZ corpses, but they do look nicely detailed.

**GrimDork**

On deck, MA minis!

Looking forward to painting Phil for some reason.

Here you can see the results of my penning the stasis/clone/whatever chamber.

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Yeah, I don't think I was going to order them either, the dead figures, but I'm glad I have a set. Should be fun to create atmosphere, especially in conjunction with BS.

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Painting begins! I think I remember how I painted my martian grunt before. Can't be sure it was this troll hide before I get another one dipped though. Seems a bit lighter and more blue... but nothing else I have comes close and I know I didn't mix a color for the armor. We shall see...

**Thraxas Of Turai**

Cheers for the pictures of the dead figures, have not seen them anywhere else. You are right about the possible use of the Enforcer as an alternate pose, he looks a bit narcissistic like he is kissing his bicep. The battle systems stuff looks good, but looks like a fair bit of work too.

**GrimDork**

I see the dead enforcer (aside from the obvious use) as potentially useful in a diorama or just any time you'd want an enforcer traversing a limited access alley, or up a ladder, or similar. Maybe trying to hug cover literally

The BS stuff just takes a bit more patience and a softer touch than I'm used to, is all. I've been punching things out and organizing them like a madman tonight, but I've still got multiple sheets to go.

I've included my latest musings about organizing the stuff into two ships in a spoiler below. Just my sketch-equivalent note-taking, like to keep notepad handy and make notes as I go. Works great for any mixed paint recipes, and I used to do it to figure out 40k armies, like a what to buy list and such. Feel free to skip it and await results though, not terribly insightful

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So I started to make a synopsis of the spoilered text but I ended up doubling it. I think it's going to boil down to halving my parts and building one ship the hard way with trial and error, then having a somewhat easier time with the second

I got one martian done today. I was going to have five done and start work on the soldiers but it was my cousin's birthday and I missed going to the last fairly local gathering, so we went to that. Gonna go dip that martian before turning in, I need to verify that his colors post-dip match up with the initial alien menace.

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Confirming that the martian dip is a success. The armor is a touch lighter, but that was probably one too many layers, or perhaps a lighter application of the dip. Serviceable and effectively the same thing. Mass production is given the green-light. Hopefully US soldiers follow suit tomorrow.

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Yay martian finished and sealed.

I may try to figure out the US soldier scheme first, but those next 4 martians are as good as done when I get around to them.

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Here's my current test/scheme for my US marines/army/whatever for Mars Attacks! I want them to blend in with my corporation troopers, kind of like a local branch or perhaps even grunts since they're using lower tech solid projectile weapons instead of directed energy weapons like the regular corp troops.

This is a re-work of the scheme, basically the same colors but with shortcuts taken. The corporation marines took comparatively *forever* to paint, this guy was less than an hour. He is still freshly dipped in the photo, and needs to be sealed.

What does everyone think about the quality of the white? This was kind of a test for other projects as well, does the dipped white look *good enough*, or does it need some work over the top? I've had decent luck with a couple of Infinity models and leaving their white alone for the dip, but that has tended to be curvier/armored parts, and not folds of cloth. Should I go back over the dipped surface with more white? Of course then I'd have to add darker recesses too. What do you think?

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Well hell... I'm actually productive and update-friendly over a weekend and Dakka's silly auto-append policy crampacks it all into one post... Le sigh.

Got my 4 remaining prepped martians finished! Just need to be dipped and sealed, woot! I've got 4 army guys and phil left... then I dunno. I'll either clean and prep the Icestorm basic infantry, or better yet... I'll get out my samurai and ninjas for the diorama as time is running out for that!

**carlos13th**

Mars attack stuff is looking good mate.

Now onto the samurai damn you.

**GrimDork**

Heh. Gotta finish these soldiers and then cleaning the diorama pieces is probably next on the agenda, or they won't get done.

**Paradigm**

Looks good. Those Marines and Soldiers blend pretty well. I've been thinking of picking up a squad for some local defence/cop NPCs in Infinity, could I trouble you for side by side shot with anything Infinity?

I think you can turn off the Auto-append in profile settings.

**GrimDork**

@Paradigm, I can't find the auto-append thing. You get a cookie if you can find it and tell me where

Daughter just fell asleep on our walk and I'm too tired to paint anything just yet, photos you shall have!

I think I'm gonna have to re-touch them with a little white to get them a bit brighter though.

**Paradigm**

Looks like I imagined the option! Sorry.

**GrimDork**

There you go Paradigm, I think everything matches up pretty well. I need to get some DZ rebs assembled and see how they match up with the corporation marines and Infinity models too. Lots of crossover potential.

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That's alright, I'm used to it :(

Seems like I've seen other people post one right after the other, I know it resets after midnight or so.

**Paradigm**

Yeah, those so seem to all work. At the insanely cheap price I might just have to grab a set of MA Soldiers. I can see the Rebs humans working as Bakunin Moderators or something.

**GrimDork**

I was thinking they may make decent Ghulam according to the older ghulam sculpts, the new ones look a lot more like the hafza. I was thinking corp marines would be good stand-ins for the hafza though, so maybe the US soldiers (still don't remember if army or marines, maybe army?) would be the ghulam in that scenario.

Wonder how a strider stacks up to T.A.G.s, kind of bet he's bigger by a bit, since he's sized such that the arms fit *inside* the cockpit :p

**JoeRugby**

I think the Rebs will fit in well

Reb, infinity SAS, reb commander, imperial guard, reb,

Grim you picked up icestorm are the infinity minis in that bigger than the others? I heard that the new sculpts of old mins are noticeably taller and the rev healer is some kind of giant.

**GrimDork**

^Yeah, looks pretty solid.

**Ruglud**

Very jealous of the Battle Systems terrain - wanted to pledge but didn't have the cash at the time as went all in on AvP (which we're still waiting for :( )

And as for the Mars Attacks... Ack, Ack...