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Baby and bathwater much?

I am looking at the kickstarter page and i don't see a Blackfrost light mech. Should there be 1 there? Can I do a light,medium, heavy Blackfrost pledge?

Blackfrost doesn't use Light Mecha. They're strictly in the Medium and Heavy department.

Actually Chemical Cutthroat there apparently IS a BF light image floating around, sounds like it's low priority vs the medium and heavy though.

Yeah, PG talked about possibly doing a BF Light... but the theme for the group was preferring heavies for... well prettymuch everything.

Since 15mm infantry and tanks are a ways away here, can someone link me to 15mm infantry and tank models?

And I suppose rules?

If there are some good ones out there, I'll probably jump in here for some Mechs!

 Alpharius wrote:
Since 15mm infantry and tanks are a ways away here, can someone link me to 15mm infantry and tank models?

And I suppose rules?

If there are some good ones out there, I'll probably jump in here for some Mechs!

I'd say these http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/ are some of the better ones available in the US. If you don't mind UK import these http://www.criticalmassgames.com/ are pretty rad too, and these http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/ too.

I'm pretty much using WGF 15mm WW2 figures for infantry and Proxie Models' 15mm tanks and artillery for tanks and artillery.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I'm pretty much using WGF 15mm WW2 figures for infantry and Proxie Models' 15mm tanks and artillery for tanks and artillery.

Huh?

Links, please!

http://www.flamesofwar.com/ ?

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I'm pretty much using WGF 15mm WW2 figures for infantry and Proxie Models' 15mm tanks and artillery for tanks and artillery.

Huh?

Links, please!

On sale too, right now.
http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/world-war-2

Just saw the 15mm Mecha. I want them all, but damn you UK customs.

Bam! 15k!!

Alpharius:
Rules: Tomorrows War , Gruntz, Critical Mass Games, Stargrunt II, Mechawar/Horizon Wars. Those are just a few of the 15mm rule sets out there.
I have both Tomorrows war and Gruntz. TW is not a points based game, it is usually based on scenarios and can be used for very off balance games.
Gruntz is a rule set that allows you to use any miniature you own on the battlefield. It has the base rules for multiple types of units, and has stat builders that let you put together any models points and field on the table.

Infantry/Vehicles:
Khurasan Miniatures
Rebel Miniatures
Ground Zero Games
Critical Mass Games
ACP Games
Ravenstar Miniatures

Those are a few that will give you a ton of options. Probably Dozens of lines of infantry and vehicles in 15mm scale to choose from.

Still settling over 15K (at 14.9K at the moment) but yes, nearly there! And out of stretch goals, which is great. I'd like to see where the Neo-Bloc heavy will unlock (16K, since the prior heavy unlocked at 13K?).

I upped mine for the current extra models I wanted based on what's on there. Still waiting for those 6mm versions of the larger pledge levels

FoW?

Seriously guys?

I'm not getting a WWII vibe here...

You're a mod... so mod them!

That's how it works, right? :-D

Also, we were actually over 15k for a while there, but it looks like we lost a backer and around $60 of their cash, but that's how 'the slump' is in KS campaigns. It'll waffle for the next week'ish and then hopefully the last few days will be amazing.

That, and Kicktraq says we're up almost a grand today, so we're still plugging along at a pretty good pace, given that there are just under 10 more to go.

At 5k between heavies we're going to need to hit 33k just to get thru the quads that were posted assuming the quads are at 5k to and not higher.

Oh well, hopefully we get there.

In fairness once the new 6mm tiers are up there will likely be an influx. I'm currently sat at the Mini me tier till I see whats what and I doubt i'm the only one.

Ah, that's how it often is with KS's. PG is known around here, so there's probably a bigger bump than there might've been under other circumstances, then there's the waffling middle, though steady progress is still being made.

The real question will be just how solid the final crush is. Sometimes it's just a continuation of the middle, but due to the "remind me when there's 48 hours left" feature of KS, the last two days are (in my experience) a significant spike in funds as people who glanced at the project in the early days and then promptly ignored it check back in, see all the stuff we've unlocked, and have 2 days or less to determine if they're going to pledge and for how much. The 'ticking clock' element often snags a good chunk of change for the creator.

I mean, you probably know this, just laying it out there because we've had some people comment about it being their first Kickstarter, and newer backers often get a bit fidgety when the middle days/weeks aren't as productive as the initial ones.

Edit: not sure when it went up, but the Blackwolf has been marked for 18k, so we're only 3k off from that, or hopefully 3-4 days if we maintain around the 750-1k/day rate. That'd leave 6 days in the campaign, so if we can snag the Wendigo by the time the 48 hour emails go out, all those eyes looking at the campaign will have the Lights, Mediums and Heavies to drool over.

There's also a new 17k stretch goal for alternate Hardcover book covers that's a "KS and Convention" exclusive! OH NOES! PG is falling to the dark side!!

I kid, I kid, that's about as unobtrusive a KS/Con exclusive as you can have.

It went up a bit ago. I was hoping for 3k for each for the heavies and then probably closer to 5.5k for each quad since he said it was around 30k to get everything already posted. No worries though. Just hoping we get those quads so I can throw more money at him. Honestly I was hoping for everything, light to quad for all factions (minus the light for the Canadians since there isn't one currently).

 Hulksmash wrote:
(minus the light for the Canadians since there isn't one currently).

Because that's how we roll.

Personally, I hope the quads aren't quite reached, because I know those will be quite complex to produce, as well as expensive. Maybe they can be their own campaign, as well as another faction?

I fell we're lucky enough to have reached as far as we are likely to go. Anything else is really just icing on the cake and it should help Paulson Games, I feel, not add to the load.

The quads are difficult as they are huge signature pieces for the game, but they are going to be really pricey to have printed and will require a significant amount of additional 3d time compared to the other mecha. I certainly want to do them but it's mixed with a slight bit of anticipation as they are going to be a size very few companies offer pieces in. They will be a pretty awesome piece but the will be a lot of work to create he initial models for.

I do have a target for them which isn't going to be low as they are the final carrots, and I don't want to offer them at too low of a funding goal considering the amount of work involved with them. I'm very happy with how the KS has progressed so even if funding were to freeze where it currently is I'd still be incredibly happy.

Seems like a very reasonable stance to take.

Even though I'm unsure whether or not I'll even be getting any, I do hope for consistencies sake and to open up the Black Frost a little, that we at least get the next two Heavies. 8 mechs broken down between 2 lights, 3 mediums and 3 heavies seems like a good spread for variety.

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I'm pretty much using WGF 15mm WW2 figures for infantry and Proxie Models' 15mm tanks and artillery for tanks and artillery.

Huh?

Links, please!

WGF has plastic 15mm Germans and Americans on sale right now. I'm just using WGF's WW2 Germans for Imperial Guard-alikes because I love plastic and I'm lazy. At the 15mm scale, I don't feel they need any conversion to look like a Sci-Fi force--just walkers!

Here is a link to Proxie Models' 15mm range. The trencher tank looks very Rustic, but it's definitely no Lemon.

Together they make up my Steel Panther legion.

Ouch, big backer must have pulled out last night. Back down several hundred below 15k

Huh, I find it odd that people would be fluctuating that much on a small campaign like this, but maybe they were counting on quads and are adjusting for the fact that they might not make it in?

I agree that just unlocking all 3 heavies would be great for this, and make the fulfillment timeline reasonable. If you do a separate kickstarter just for quads at the end of the year / after this fulfills, I'll likely be in it

Well if the quads don't unlock then I'm pretty much done for the campaign. I'll add in the two additional heavies in anticipation and a few weapon packs and just set the remind for 48 hours to see if anything changes