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**Forar**

Oh, it happens all the time. People have second thoughts, get cold feet, have a large expense pop up (car trouble, discover they need to move in the near future, medical expense, etc) and simply can't justify the cash.

Granted, it's obviously more common in larger campaigns (more people), but that also hides it (more people filling in the holes faster than they open).

Wyrd's RPG campaign early last year was (I think) 45 days long, and in the middle there were days it was losing several backers and thousands of dollars in a clump (as in, significantly more people were leaving than were those replacing them). It got... ugly.

**RiTides**

Yeah, but that was also due to the way Wyrd ran that campaign, iirc! Hopefully this ticks up slowly the next few days, and gets those last two heavies unlocked, and call it a wrap

**Hulksmash**

We basically need to do about about 1k a day for the rest of the campaign for the heavies. So it's possible.

I'm still waiting for those 6mm equivalents of the larger pledges like Total Carnage

**paulson games**

It's kind of weird getting individual updates on the status of the pledges, it's good to see somebody adjusting the totals sometimes upping the amount or cancelling them entering in a new pledge. But when people cancel a pledge completely with no return it does make me a wonder a bit why and if there was something that could have been fixed or addressed. It's only been a few backers, so I don't let it bug me too much as we're still climbing but if I saw lot of pledges withdrawing at once I'd want to know what was causing all the drops.

**Hulksmash**

I'd bet honestly part of it is that it looks extremely unlikely that we'll see the quads in this. Which is fine but the Quad is what is being shown at the top of the KS and on the covers of rulebooks and such which might make it a bit of a downer looking at it and realizing it's not to likely.

Also part of it, not meaning any offense, might be the technical issues that seem to have plagued you regarding the actual layout of the kickstarter. Or the lack of knowing other stuff is there to be unlocked but the goal to get there is unclear. Or it could have been expecting the heavies to be 3-4k for the unlock and getting 5k. Lots of reasons, all of them valid to an individual. I would take it lightly unless people start bailing like crazy.

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Or not getting the large micro armor pledges up *Hint*Hint*

**RiTides**

It could be a timeline issue, as well (the original dates slipping due to later unlocks). All sorts of reasons, but like Hulk says, I wouldn't worry too much atm.

I do think having some assurance about whether it's possible NorAm could have a heavy while the other faction didn't, for example, might help, though.

**Forar**

Something that I've been a bit unclear on (and it might be due to my own personal thickness here); when we choose a mech, do we also pick its configuration?

Which is to say, do all of them come as A's and the extra weapon packs let us pick B's and C's? Or do we simply pick whatever we liked, so if I were to grab a Micro Armor Support Squad (2 6mm Mediums) I could snag a Lynx B, an Osprey C, and use the stretch goal unlocked free weapon pack on an A for one of them?

Just curious if the A's are the defaults, or there is no default and all choices are made later? The need to unlock the other configurations made me think it might be the former, but with most of them available now, I'm curious if it's the latter, at least for those available with all options (which might not hold up if we just get to the Quads at the end, for example)?

**paulson games**

The pledge tiers are a bit effed up but that's largely due to trying to manage both scales in the KS. I'll have the two micro armor ones going up later today and I think that will be the last of them as it's already overly complicated, but there's not much I can do about it at this point as I can't modify any of the tiers that have backers on them. (which is pretty much all of them save the painted tier)

**Forar**

Oh, another aspect to keep in mind is other products and kickstarters. Even during a short run like this one, other campaigns will start, or the deal will sweeten to the point a person has to choose between $ for this or $ for another campaign that caught their eye, or a new release at a store, or a sale that has popped up, etc.

Just to add to the other list given earlier of possible reasons for changes or dropping. It's very common to see the matter discussed in comments. "Oh, I was in for $200 in Campaign X, but think I might have to drop to $50 or even pull out entirely because Campaign Y just launched, and Campaign Z just broke a couple of stretch goals in their last hours and I've gotta get me some of that!"

**paulson games**

Creature caster just opened up so maybe a couple pledgers switched to that. (We dropped almost $400 from last night) No worries as it was only two backers, I'm sure others will come in to replace those pledges.

You pick the mecha load out you want. When the question form releases after the KS closes you'll pick the mecha type you want and what configuration of weapons you want it to come with.

**Bolognesus**

New update:

The Mecha Front webstore is offline for the duration of the KS, but the WIP rules are available for people who want to take a look at them. Please keep in mind that these are still a very early version and are a couple months old at this point. I've made a large number of revisions since then as I'm currently working on the 1.5 version, but the 1.4 rules should give you an idea of how the basic game play and mechanics work.

Rules v1.4:
www.mechafront.com//f/Rules_-_Mecha_Front_1.4_in_progress.docx

Activation Cards:
www.mechafront.com//f/Activation_Cards_1.4.docx

Unit Stat Cards:
www.mechafront.com//f/Stat_Cards_1.4.docx

Neo-Bloc Cardstock Mecha:
www.mechafront.com//f/neobloc_cardstock.doc

NorAm Cardstock Mecha:
www.mechafront.com//f/noram_cardstock.doc

Questions Comments and suggestions

Can be made on the DakkaDakk forum here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/575624.page

Now, how exact is the scale on those cutouts?

**RiTides**

6mm weapon packs are also up. They're a good deal for medium or heavy weapons, but not quite as good for light (since they're all $4... meaning the light weapons pack is the same cost in 6mm and 15mm! Although the others are cheaper than their 15mm counterparts).

**paulson games**

Bolognesus wrote:

Now, how exact is the scale on those cutouts?

The scale is off a bit, I made the cut outs early last year before I'd dialed in the sizes for all the models. (The models are quite a bit larger). They should work ok for play testing, but they aren't a perfect match in terms of actual heights.

**Bolognesus**

Okay, good. I thought they were a bit weedy.
If it's not too much trouble, could you give (more or less) precise heights on the eight models in those documents? I can't quite find any of that on the KS page. (aside from comparison pics which are fine, but not terribly precise to gauge size from!)

**paulson games**

Current models; the Raptor is 65mm, the Goshawk is 70mm, Lynx is 80mm.

Osprey should be around 83mm, Cougar 80mm, Wolverine 90mm, Blackwolf 92mm, Wendigo 95mm. Quads I don't remember the height offhand as they've grown several times.

**Bolognesus**

Thanks!
Quads will tend toward 120mm bases, I presume?

**paulson games**

Yeah right now they are on 120mm base, when they see print they are looking like they will need a 160mm possibly a 180mm base

**JoshInJapan**

paulson games wrote:
Yeah right now they are on 120mm base, when they see print they are looking like they will need a 160mm possibly a 180mm base

Will those fit between buildings in an urban set-up?

**Eldarain**

JoshInJapan wrote:
paulson games wrote:
Yeah right now they are on 120mm base, when they see print they are looking like they will need a 160mm possibly a 180mm base

Will those fit between buildings in an urban set-up?

You'll just have to knock them down

**RiTides**

I would say it'd be better (from a gameplay and price standpoint) not to go above a 120mm base in size... I mean, that's already going to be a Much larger footprint than any of the other mechs. It shouldn't be so large that it becomes unusable in any practical sense! 120mm is massive but generally accepted due to Privateer Press clearing the path for them

**Mathieu Raymond**

And dreamforge stepping on the path too, clearing it a bit further.

**Manchu**

I really hope the Blackwolf and Wendigo get unlocked. I could stand having to wait on the quads.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Yeah, me too. I know they hare the poster boys of destruction and all things good in Mecha Front, but the amount of work they need to become a reality is just too much for me to bear. And if they don,t make it in, maybe we can get DarkTraveler back into the campaign.

Jon, this is going to seem like a silly question. But indulge me as being a Canadian. AFTER you have installed a proper hood in your basement, would someone pledging strictly for mecha that you have designs for, or say the Osprey on top, get their stuff as soon as it is available, or would you keep it to a single big happy trip to your local Post Office?

**Vertrucio**

Finally got a good read through of the rules. A very solid rules set with some interesting initiative mechanics using cards and pilot skill.

I'm in for 15mm as soon as some funds free up this week.

I was going to do 6mm, but all my friends wanted 15mm as soon as they saw giant stompy robots. It's probably for the best too since we tend to play combined arms. 15mm infantry, tanks, and terrain are easier to find.

**paulson games**

Mathieu: Everything will go out at roughly the same time, even if it's stuff that's finished sooner then the heavier mecha. Doing one batch keeps everything simpler and doesn't jam up my workflow. Smaller order may go out a few days ahead of the bigger stuff simply because they are quicker to process, but it'd only be a matter of a few days difference.

Just posted an update the larger micro armor tiers are up and they should be the last of the tiers as that side bar is really cluttered, hopefully it's no too confusing but such is the price of offering 2 scales.

**Ovion**

To reduce confusion you could do up a simple infographic explaining what it all is.

Seperate it into 3 strips say:
one for the 15mm stuff, explaining what each of those are and how they work,
one for the 6mm stuff, explaining what each of those are and how they work,
then one for mixed / other and what those are and how they work.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Can't wait to get my hands on that sexy Wolverine...

I understand about the shipping. Just make sure you clear the day. I heard you need to fill out everything in front of the clerk for international orders?

**RiTides**

As long as it's under a certain weight (I believe 4 pounds) the international shipping form is pretty easy (and doesn't have to be done at the post office, just FYI Mathieu). I've done this wayyyy too many times

(although probably not as much as paulson has!)

**ski2060**

Arrggg.. I really need someone to buy some of my unused stuff so I can get in on this KS.

Oh well, I have more than enough stuff to keep me busy for a while. I'll just buy in retail at some point.

Love the models, keep up the great work Jon!

**Bolognesus**

And another size related question I can't quite find the answer to: what size are the infantry unit bases?