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**BobtheInquisitor**

Actually, I was waiting to see how the Eisenkern Valkir's swords end up. You can tell I didn't even bother straightening the crappy standard sword. What the heck is it even supposed to be? A powered bread slicer? Electric, safety pumpkin carver?

But now that you mention a thunder hammer...

**Azazelx**

Yeah, to me it just seems more of a "blunt instrument" kind of suit, rather than one to use a precision weapon like a sword.

**spiralingcadaver**

The weapons and pose are the same as her un-suited version (plasma thingy IIRC, dachi swords, raised sword arm), hence the blade rather than bludgeon etc.

**Azazelx**

Sure, I just don't think it's especially well done in the big Gnosis suit.

**spiralingcadaver**

Fair enough. Regular Kara is one of the best in the line, gnosis just looks okay. I got a spare regular for cheap, and sticking the regular head on goes a long way, but something was lost between sketch and restic.

**BobtheInquisitor**

I thought the regular head looked silly. Besides, helmets are a lot less squishy.

**Guildsman**

Is the game even available for retail purchase? The Studio McVey site lists it as out of stock, and the Warstore doesn't list it at all. Do any other U.S. distributors carry the base game box? (And as a side note, if I bought the game new, what version of the rules would be in the box?)

**Bioptic**

Guildsman wrote:
Is the game even available for retail purchase? The Studio McVey site lists it as out of stock, and the Warstore doesn't list it at all. Do any other U.S. distributors carry the base game box? (And as a side note, if I bought the game new, what version of the rules would be in the box?)

Yes - in the UK, I was able to get a copy through Amazon (3rd party), and it looks like there are plenty of copies on Miniature Market in the US, for example:

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/swm0001.html

If your copy is not heavily marked-down, then I'd expect that you'd get the newer edition - 2nd ed rulebook and cards, and miniatures packed in a pvc blister shell rather than loose in bags. On the other hand, I bought the Amazon copy mid-December last year (for the equivalent of ~$30 delivered) and that was still first edition!

If it helps, the 2nd edition rulebook is still not the latest rule set, the cards are not a very clear way of displaying the rules, and you can get a nicely-collated summary and cards for the actually-up-to-date-version of the whole shebang at:

http://www.orderofgamers.com/games/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well as the publisher CMON certainly do (and you'll be getting the most recent printed version)

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/boardgames/sedition-wars/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster.html

as do miniature market and FRP games (they did discount very heavily for a while, but not any more suggesting to me this is the second printing, but ask to be sure)

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/swm0001.html

http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=86621#.Ux380ZXivmI

**AlexHolker**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well as the publisher CMON certainly do (and you'll be getting the most recent printed version)

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/boardgames/sedition-wars/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster.html

If this thread has taught Guildsman anything, it's that he should not pay $90 for Sedition Wars. Doing so will only cause melancholy and lethargy.

**Guildsman**

AlexHolker wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well as the publisher CMON certainly do (and you'll be getting the most recent printed version)

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/boardgames/sedition-wars/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster.html

If this thread has taught Guildsman anything, it's that he should not pay $90 for Sedition Wars. Doing so will only cause melancholy and lethargy.

Ya got that right. The question was more out of curiosity than anything else. Really disappointed with how this has all turned out, and really glad that I didn't jump in on the kickstarter. I don't care if the gameplay is revelatory; if the miniatures are poor quality, then count me out.

**RiTides**

Got the terrain pack from Miniature Market, and the non-door pieces come in a clear plastic inner packaging conformed to each shape, so I don't think any of these would ever be pre-assembled like some of the KS rewards were. It's a heck of a lot of terrain for the price!

**PsychoticStorm**

That's exactly how my kickstarter reward came.

**CptJake**

RiTides wrote:
Got the terrain pack from Miniature Market, and the non-door pieces come in a clear plastic inner packaging conformed to each shape, so I don't think any of these would ever be pre-assembled like some of the KS rewards were. It's a heck of a lot of terrain for the price!

It is the sentry gun things, in the tray, that folks had the issue with. They were assembled in the factory.

**Azazelx**

Guildsman wrote:
AlexHolker wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well as the publisher CMON certainly do (and you'll be getting the most recent printed version)

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/boardgames/sedition-wars/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster.html

If this thread has taught Guildsman anything, it's that he should not pay $90 for Sedition Wars. Doing so will only cause melancholy and lethargy.

Ya got that right. The question was more out of curiosity than anything else. Really disappointed with how this has all turned out, and really glad that I didn't jump in on the kickstarter. I don't care if the gameplay is revelatory; if the miniatures are poor quality, then count me out.

To be fair, the minis that come in the box are decent, though very restic-mould-liney. The issues with the boxed game figures are that they were in restic with lots of mould lines which are a bitch to clean off, and they promised us the Earth, - so many of us including myself - while not expecting LE-resin levels of quality - were nonetheless misled - which falls on both McVey and CMON. The Wave 2 figures on the other hand, were expensive, undersized (even to the wave 1 figures) and gak - a major failing on both CMON and McVey. The rules are rough and far from revelatory.

Honestly, if you can pick up the boxed game for $30-40 and have a use for Halo-suited space soldiers and techno-zombies and good quality plastic sci-fi bases, then it's not a bad deal. Also comes with floor tiles and such that can be useful for various gamingnesss.

**xowainx**

I bought one of these boxes before Christmas for £20ppd off eBay, and finally got around to assembling it at the weekend.

I filed the mould lines down with some jewellers files I have, and intitally wasn't too happy with the results.. I found though, that running my finger nail along the line afterwards made a surprising difference, and I was happy with the results afterwards. The material was a bit harder than the restic in Deadzone, but I didn't find it particularly soul destroying, and the bigger Strain models went together pretty well, especially compared to anything metal that size. Only annoying part was that I didn't have a drill handy to glue the "flying" stand for the tank droid thing.

**DaveC**

I might as well carry on this thread - love it or loath it there's plenty more to come for Sedition Wars previews start today they will be onsale at Salute and then on the store after - resin minis - first up is the Gnosis suit troops and character Killian Brace.

As I mentioned in the last news posted here, we have Salute next weekend so we wanted to give you a sneak peek at some of the new miniatures we will be previewing there. We’ve been pretty quiet on the new release front for the last few months, but that doesn’t mean we haven’t been busy – quite the contrary. In the last year, we have designed and sculpted more miniatures than in the rest of the time we have been running Studio McVey combined. The main focus of our work has been Sedition Wars, and over the next week we are going to be showing some of the miniatures you will be seeing in the next game set in the Sedition Wars universe. We’ll be selling these miniatures as limited availability resins castings at the show, and then in the Studio McVey store right after that.

First up is a brand new Vanguard unit equipped with the Gnosis pattern armour. The unit is lead by Sgt. Killian Brace, and also features three trooper poses and a heavy weapon operative. These miniatures are around 50mm tall to the head, and very imposing.

In the next update we will be showing just why the Vanguard has to go into battle so heavily armed and armoured…

Hope you like them!

also the Quarantine Campaign got it's release

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qpb6gmel6qx3cqz/SW_Quarantine-Campaign.pdf

**Siygess**

I rather like those! I hope they will look okay alongside Kara and Grist though..

**zedmeister**

They look wicked...

**CptJake**

Are they going only ever be 'limited availability' castings? If so, what good are they for the future of the game? If not, are the 'always available' casting going to be resin, metal, that awful restic?

**DaveC**

AFAIK the resins are limited run like Grist and Phaedrus and then they will be in whatever material they choose for the new game.

Re scale. (quick badly lit picture) Restic Kara next to Resin Grist. Grist is about half a head taller the waist line is roughly the same. Kara's suit pose is leaning backwards slightly she is a little smaller but not enough to throw it off. The Resins should match up to Resin Grist size wise.

**CptJake**

Thanks for the scale picture. Kara has a teeny head. Looks like a little girl in Daddy's armor.

I can picture my daughter doing that....

**DaveC**

That's actually the head from the regular Captain Kara that I swapped in in place of the original Gnosis head which is tiny her original Captain Kara head is bigger than Grists

**CptJake**

Yep, I just looked at my Gnosis Kara which came this week. Teeny head. Nice figure though,

**scarletsquig**

They're nice enough, but being premium resin that's likely £100 or so for the unit of 5.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I like them,

and I'm keen to see what else they have up their sleeves

(and I do hope we get some solo rules soon)

Edit: Interesting to see they are more AG paints too

**CptJake**

scarletsquig wrote:
They're nice enough, but being premium resin that's likely £100 or so for the unit of 5.

Which is what prompted my concern about how they contribute to the future of the game. Limited editions + super high pricing =/= helping grow the game or the community of players. It caters to a handful of folks with really deep wallets.

But they are cool figures...

Do they come with the cards necessary for play?

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

Does it make me a sick man to consider using theses as squat Exo-armour?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

CptJake wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
They're nice enough, but being premium resin that's likely £100 or so for the unit of 5.

Which is what prompted my concern about how they contribute to the future of the game. Limited editions + super high pricing =/= helping grow the game or the community of players. It caters to a handful of folks with really deep wallets.

But they are cool figures...

Do they come with the cards necessary for play?

They are resin LE previews (for paint and display more than play),

so no cards

(but paying for some/all of the cost of the sculpt via the LE resins means they can have sculpts in hand when they move to get whatever the next bit of the game is done which is good for the game and it's players especially considering how far ahead all the good sculptors are booked)

**Necros**

They look great. I'd take them over GW's terminators anyday.. or better yet those godawful new ogryns.