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Might have to get three of priest.

I wonder if there's any sort of imminent announcements coming about the game itself.

I personally like seeing all the weird stuff in a scifi game like this. I hope they keep on doling out these fun little pieces.

I'm surprised how many people want to buy these in resin. I can understand hating the restic, but none of these minis are worth the price they will cost in resin. The market has too many affordable minis to make boutique resin anything more than an overly expensive novelty, and restic just doesn't work for lots of person-sized 18mm minis. Maybe Mantic has found the right material with boardgame plastic? Hard plastic would be even better, but there's no way Team McVey can afford entry into that club anymore.

That said, I'd totally buy some of the cool monsters in restic for Mantic prices. Too bad about the medusa.

McVey: "This mini could look sexier."

Sculptor: "It's a bio-technological snake monster with a fanged slug mouth and tentacles. It's not sexy."

McVey: "Better add some big boobs."

 Siygess wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
.. As if Travis and the Fandalorians hadn't done enough to put people off star wars..

Hah, I'd heard that there were people who hated on her work but I guess I wasn't looking in the right places. Her RepCom books were the only part of the EU I even remotely enjoyed, if only because it was nice to see some Mary Sues who weren't rocking brown bathrobes and glowsticks. My name is Siygess and I guess I am a Fandalorian
That said, while the Boba helmet made me smile, I wouldn't put it on that model.

I mostly have a problem with her interaction with the fans. Also, some of my friends are big fans of hers who use Mando'a vocabulary the way I a nerd uses Klingon. And Boba Fett should never have been a caring family man Jedi-slayer.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The market has too many affordable minis to make boutique resin anything more than an overly expensive novelty

Are you talking about buying resin when the same mini will be available in a different material?
If you are just talking about high end resin minis being ridiculous when you could be buying 500 of whatever blob Mantic releases this month for the same price, then, yikes...

There's some very cool sculpts here... But there were some very cool sculpts in the kickstarter second wave as well... And going by how the production minis turned out from that, I would have zero confidence that these will turn out looking anywhere near a good as the images here.

Say what you like about McVey, they really know how to sculpt! Seriously, those monsters (I forget the name, lets just call them Plague) are perfect.

 CptJake wrote:
Booba Fett?

Sorry for dragging this back from ~3 pages ago but I only just caught on and had quite an intense chuckle! Nice model though...

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Siygess wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
.. As if Travis and the Fandalorians hadn't done enough to put people off star wars..

Hah, I'd heard that there were people who hated on her work but I guess I wasn't looking in the right places. Her RepCom books were the only part of the EU I even remotely enjoyed, if only because it was nice to see some Mary Sues who weren't rocking brown bathrobes and glowsticks. My name is Siygess and I guess I am a Fandalorian
That said, while the Boba helmet made me smile, I wouldn't put it on that model.

I mostly have a problem with her interaction with the fans. Also, some of my friends are big fans of hers who use Mando'a vocabulary the way I a nerd uses Klingon. And Boba Fett should never have been a caring family man Jedi-slayer.

I liked her first Clone Trooper book, but she really is a terrible person. She might like to think of herself as a journalist but she's really a propagandist for a monstrous worldview - one that says that genocide is a good way to resolve an inferiority complex.

Why do all the monsters have breasts?

 Vash108 wrote:
Why do all the monsters have breasts?

The most human one was a woman, became part of the baddies; there's another version of her fused with a combat host. The other two are one type and its upgraded form, and it's an extension of another iteration from the first line, so, really there's only the question of one type of monster having breasts since the four here either have a reason or follow naturally.

Also this:

http://studiomcvey.com/on-the-way-to-salute-one-more-preview/

We’re currently on our way down to London for Salute tomorrow, the car is packed to the roof and I’ve just remembered I forgot to print out the price lists – one more job to do when we get there! We’re really looking forward to the show though, it’s always a great day and we really enjoy catching up with everyone. We’re at stand TL13 – please come by and see us if you’re going to be there.

Just time for one more preview though!

Tumult is the AI of the Bastion ship, Arms of Sorrow. Seen here in his Envoy form, he appears as a tall sleek humanoid. Apparently unarmed, he is still a dangerous opponent with many micro weapons concealed in his frame.

Nice android.

Not bad at all. Now, if only he was painted a little more blue and had a penis.. then perhaps we could move on from Strain Bewbs

 Siygess wrote:
Not bad at all. Now, if only he was painted a little more blue and had a penis.. then perhaps we could move on from Strain Bewbs

...

I like a lot of what's been previewed here, but...this bridge had been burned.

This ship has sailed!

Tumult is very nice, the concept is cool, pretty much the same thing as an avatar of a Culture starship.

The Sedition Wars preview Miniatures will be available in limited numbers on the online store at the same prices after Salute. Mike mentioned staggering releases so they don't all land at once. (The other limited editions are discounted for Salute attendees only - no online discount)

The Gnosis unit is £80 for Trooper A, B and C + Gnosis Heavy and Killian Brace (£92 Separate selling price)

and one last bit of news:

There will be new 50mm base designs - they aren't done yet hence every 50mm base being the current single design.

I really like Tumult, Preacher (although I don't get why he travels in a heavily armored unit that's completely open to attack on the sides), and the reptilian bodyguard alien. Those are Studio McVey at the top of their game, doing the best sci-fi design in the market.

The Strain boob thing . . . I'm generally not a fan of sexing up miniatures, partially because, like sexy cartoons (a lot of anime), I find it fundamentally ridiculous.

That said, I think Hexen's human form is a great sculpt, which stands out among "arch-villain" miniatures for its character and presence. The tentacle hand thing actually works for me, too, and its weird menace helps set her apart from the typical Daemonette / evil mutated young woman.

If I have a problem with Hexen at all, it's the introduction of the idea that the Strain has quickly been mastered by a human to the point that she can use and direct it with apparently no risk to herself. While this elevates Hexen to a memorable villain, it correspondingly lowers the Strain to something that can be controlled and subordinated, detracting from its inhuman intelligence and menace. It's a trade-off with pros and cons. Davros is one of my favorite Dr. Who villains (Wisher is my #1 of course, Molloy an inspired #2), but I also agree with critics that his recurring presence tends to water down the impact of the Daleks themselves. Same with Hexen's closest analogue (and likely direct inspiration), Kerrigan, Queen of Blades, and her vassal Zerg.

My preferred solution would be to have Hexen's perfect control over her own evolution become a grey area, where as in a traditional Faustian bargain, the power she acquires through the Strain threatens to consume / assimilate her. For best effect and story mileage, I'd leave her final fate - to be master of or mastered by the Strain - unresolved for a good long while in the fluff, throwing out the occasional clue that Hexen's control over her troops and the Strain's presence in her own body isn't entirely resolved.

The miniature where the boob issue bothers me most is the same one bothering others, the final form of the Medusa thing. I'm not going to go on and on about it, but there's a great monster miniature in there that those breasts render absurd. I like the rest of the design enough that I think it will be worth the extra trouble to greenstuff them away.

Outside of that, some of the bounty hunters aren't my cup of tea. The gladiator is too comical with a dash of anime hair, the female alien looks like she's wearing something dominatrix inspired, and the design of the four-armed woman just doesn't work. Not because of any objectification - hers is obviously a very different take on the female form - but because her extra arms don't really look functional. They stick out of her back awkwardly and crowd her arm movements in a way that doesn't suggest her body has been engineered to use them, in which case their placement and design would make anatomical, practical sense (and probably require a more radical redesign of her thoracic region.) The four-armed design doesn't have to be defensible in a scientific journal, it just needs to look like it works.

The alternate Boba Fett helmet for the woman with the overlarge guns is a plus, but only because I could use it on other minis. It doesn't really go with her costume.

These releases are a mixed bag for me, but the ones I like are definitely worth my time and money.

I was drawn to the comment of that Tumult sculpt being his "envoy" form. That speaks to me that he (it?) has multiple forms possibly. Maybe a bigger, nastier one that's better suited to deal with Strain with weapons other than micro ones....

Tumult is this games version of Hurley an AI that can upload into various forms as circumstances require such as an android or hover tank (Hurley) - I've only seen the mini and rules for android Tumult - I don't think there will be another version.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I was drawn to the comment of that Tumult sculpt being his "envoy" form. That speaks to me that he (it?) has multiple forms possibly. Maybe a bigger, nastier one that's better suited to deal with Strain with weapons other than micro ones....

Considering he is the AI of a ship I think the implication is that his other form is...the ship.

I think Gemma's 4 arms are a consequence of her being something that was originally designed for an alternate use

2 heavy duty arms designed for grunt work in her original labouring configuration in the normal shoulder position

2 additional arms designed to allow her to perform more delicate work mounted lower on the body which would allow her to manipulate stuff directly in front of her if she held the main arms out of the way

the original configuration was not intended to use all 4 arms at once but when liberated (re-programmed?) by the firebrand it at least means she's got melee weapons available faster than trying to draw them

The android looks great! I could see people using that model for all sorts of projects.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think Gemma's 4 arms are a consequence of her being something that was originally designed for an alternate use

2 heavy duty arms designed for grunt work in her original labouring configuration in the normal shoulder position

2 additional arms designed to allow her to perform more delicate work mounted lower on the body which would allow her to manipulate stuff directly in front of her if she held the main arms out of the way

the original configuration was not intended to use all 4 arms at once but when liberated (re-programmed?) by the firebrand it at least means she's got melee weapons available faster than trying to draw them

Her lower arms seem to be missing the shoulder joint, which really hampers their utility for anything other than getting in the way of the upper arms. Bad anatomy/design, it could have been a lot better.

'Studio McVey - Mike

Yes - all these will see plastic eventually.

We are now working with a completely new production vendor and the difference in quality is significant… I'm really happy with what I have seen so far - we'll have production samples before we launch any future products.

mike

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
Why do all the monsters have breasts?

The most human one was a woman, became part of the baddies; there's another version of her fused with a combat host. The other two are one type and its upgraded form, and it's an extension of another iteration from the first line, so, really there's only the question of one type of monster having breasts since the four here either have a reason or follow naturally.

That's more of a justification than a reason.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That's more of a justification than a reason.

Fair enough.

Also, I like Tumult a lot- think he might be one I need to get in resin.

 DaveC wrote:

'Studio McVey - Mike

Yes - all these will see plastic eventually.

We are now working with a completely new production vendor and the difference in quality is significant… I'm really happy with what I have seen so far - we'll have production samples before we launch any future products.

mike

Seeing the prices of there resins for the new strain I think I'll wait for the plastics.

Me too - but I'll DEFINITELY have to wait to see production samples in this 'plastic' too...

'Studio McVey - Mike

Yes - all these will see plastic eventually.

We are now working with a completely new production vendor and the difference in quality is significant… I'm really happy with what I have seen so far - we'll have production samples before we launch any future products.

mike

Three things:

1. Considering how much of a **** up the 2nd wave of KS minis was, SMV absolutely HAS to have production samples out for people to see before the vast majority of them will even consider buying plastic/restic/whatever-tic SW stuff again.

2. Reading that made me realize how much of the community's trust Mike has squandered. I mean, I read that and thought "'Difference in quality is significant'? Riiiiiight. I'll believe that when I see it," and I'm definitely a supportive and understanding type. If that was my thought, I can only imagine what the rest of the Interets (frothingly negative as they can be) will think.

3. Still hoping McVey can get this crap ironed out: the SW universe intrigues me, my experience with BfA has been fun, and I always want the "little guy" to succeed. I know he's largely dug his own grave here, but still.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Also this:

http://studiomcvey.com/on-the-way-to-salute-one-more-preview/

We’re currently on our way down to London for Salute tomorrow, the car is packed to the roof and I’ve just remembered I forgot to print out the price lists – one more job to do when we get there! We’re really looking forward to the show though, it’s always a great day and we really enjoy catching up with everyone. We’re at stand TL13 – please come by and see us if you’re going to be there.

Just time for one more preview though!

Tumult is the AI of the Bastion ship, Arms of Sorrow. Seen here in his Envoy form, he appears as a tall sleek humanoid. Apparently unarmed, he is still a dangerous opponent with many micro weapons concealed in his frame.

All I see is this

 Gomez wrote:


1. Considering how much of a **** up the 2nd wave of KS minis was, SMV absolutely HAS to have production samples out for people to see before the vast majority of them will even consider buying plastic/restic/whatever-tic SW stuff again.

You and I know that will not happen, if it were, we would probably get cleaned up sample.

It also depends on what type of plastic used. Crispness issue was not too big of a deal to me. It was quite soft in detail but not heart breaking.

The rubbery plastic and shrinkage is what really killed.