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So Eyriss isnt a mercenary anymore? why did she leave?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So Eyriss isnt a mercenary anymore? why did she leave?

The mercenary gig has always just been a cover for her Retribution activities. Getting paid to do what she would have been doing anyway probably didn't hurt, either.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So Eyriss isnt a mercenary anymore? why did she leave?

The description is pretty clear on that, really. She left her home to spy on the inferior races and figure out how to best exterminate them, and new she's returned home to commence that final solution.

Anyone care to explain to me why a set moves from metal to plastic, but doesn't change in price?

It's nice to see things I actually want make the shift, but the fact that their price doesn't change is kind of annoying. I'd love to get some of Scyrah's troops and start an army, but when it's still $50 for 10 guys, that's a bit much.

 Barzam wrote:
Anyone care to explain to me why a set moves from metal to plastic, but doesn't change in price?

Because PP doesn't do annual price raises.

 Barzam wrote:
Anyone care to explain to me why a set moves from metal to plastic, but doesn't change in price?

It's nice to see things I actually want make the shift, but the fact that their price doesn't change is kind of annoying. I'd love to get some of Scyrah's troops and start an army, but when it's still $50 for 10 guys, that's a bit much.

The price usually has dropped around $10 when a unit gets converted to plastic (jacks notwithstanding). Halberdiers dropped $5. The problem is PP doesn't expect to sell 3+ of the same kit to each customer. Usually people only buy one maybe two in rare circumstances. They lose out on much of the benefit of plastics being cheap material, but expensive molds. Thus smaller price drops.

 Barzam wrote:
Anyone care to explain to me why a set moves from metal to plastic, but doesn't change in price?

It's nice to see things I actually want make the shift, but the fact that their price doesn't change is kind of annoying. I'd love to get some of Scyrah's troops and start an army, but when it's still $50 for 10 guys, that's a bit much.

The Temple Flame Guard went from $55 for a full metal unit to $50 for a full plastic unit.

Yeah, they seem to be trying to set all of the ten man plastic units to $50.

Also, as a serious question with the mention of not doing the annual price increase thing because I'm curious, has PP ever increased the price or something, not counting reboxing or new material stuff? Just straight taken and item and raised the price on it?

 AduroT wrote:
Yeah, they seem to be trying to set all of the ten man plastic units to $50.

Also, as a serious question with the mention of not doing the annual price increase thing because I'm curious, has PP ever increased the price or something, not counting reboxing or new material stuff? Just straight taken and item and raised the price on it?

Once, when metal prices went through the roof a few years ago IIRC. Mostly it's only price rises in new things, even the reboxes are usually equivalently priced (though I can't say I'm sure about every rebox). The reboxed Idrians for instance, still in metal, are now $45 for a full unit rather than $50.

I think the Bane Thralls went down $5 iirc when they got resculpted and reboxed to a full unit, but they also had their shoulders switched to resin.

 Barzam wrote:
Anyone care to explain to me why a set moves from metal to plastic, but doesn't change in price?

It's nice to see things I actually want make the shift, but the fact that their price doesn't change is kind of annoying. I'd love to get some of Scyrah's troops and start an army, but when it's still $50 for 10 guys, that's a bit much.

an old metal mini will have paid for it's sculpting and design costs already (hopefully anyway) so every sale will generate decent turn over for the company (so they can for example afford not to have put the price up every year)

The moment you decide to go plastic there are very significant new upfront costs in terms of re-designing the figure for the new media, plus the costs of the metal mould itself. A single human sized figure will probably run at least $5-10,000

plus the risk involved in partnering with a new production partner which could well be in China if you want the best prices, this does not always go well either in term of quality, for example Mantic's first goblin sprue, or outright mistakes eg One of Wyrds where the mould was cut the wrong size and had to be junked, or Kaladrax from Reaper which was made much to big, but they've run with anyway but at a much higher unit cost

It will take several years for the new plastic kit to make back it's costs (unless sales are huge in a GW sort of way), and this pay back time just increases if they cut the price. So don't expect major price cuts when a kit goes plastic (but hope for long term price stablilty, more bits to customise your kit, and if it's a 'infantry' type unit extra copies in the box)

 Maddermax wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Yeah, they seem to be trying to set all of the ten man plastic units to $50.

Also, as a serious question with the mention of not doing the annual price increase thing because I'm curious, has PP ever increased the price or something, not counting reboxing or new material stuff? Just straight taken and item and raised the price on it?

Once, when metal prices went through the roof a few years ago IIRC. Mostly it's only price rises in new things, even the reboxes are usually equivalently priced (though I can't say I'm sure about every rebox). The reboxed Idrians for instance, still in metal, are now $45 for a full unit rather than $50.

IIRC the satixis raiders went up in price with the rebox, but that is all I can think of.

The Ret Halberds went from 10 metals for $55 to 10 plastic for 50.
Repackage Merc Hablerds go from a box of 6 + 2 blisters of 2 for 61.97 to a box of 10 for 60. Not a big savings but a savings non the less.

Finally the Flameguard are in a full unit box, and in plastic no less. Now I don't have to go hunting for blisters just to make a full unit.

I am a big fan of the change to full unit boxes and no blisters as I'm the guy who has to inventory them at the flgs.

http://privateerpress.com/news-warmachine-10-year-anniversary-set

Finally get to see the new Butcher sculpt! Woo!

 Laughing Man wrote:



http://privateerpress.com/news-warmachine-10-year-anniversary-set

Finally get to see the new Butcher sculpt! Woo!

Oh God... Another rare purchase to digitally "camp" for... coupled with my own ineptitude at painting ensuring that this display piece will never look up to snuff.

I hate/love this hobby. :-p

*gets sleeping bag*

Is it just me or the only "exclusive" thing in this box is the base, coin, print, and CoA?

Naw, the whole thing is LE. That Butcher sculpt isn't the same as the others and I don't think there are any Arguses in Khador armor.

From what I understand the Argus and Butcher sculpts are just regular Butcher3.

Oh, really? Well then... uh... I guess you are paying for the base, coin, and CoA. Makes it a lot less attractive to me, but I'm not much of a collector anyway.

does anyone know if that Butcher is going to be in the next book? And also available separately?

I really want him... but $110 warcaster? ...idk... I could care less for the 10th anniversary extras I just want the Butcher.

Thanks!

He'll definitely be in Vengeance. Heck, he's on the cover.

Yeah, he'll be available on his own with the two dogs later on. This is just the anniversary Gencon set, which comes with the print, box display and coin.

 AduroT wrote:
Yeah, he'll be available on his own with the two dogs later on. This is just the anniversary Gencon set, which comes with the print, box display and coin.

Cool!!!

Thanks guys that's awesome! I was worried I was going to have to drop that much for the damn thing. I like WM a ton but hell I play to many miniature games to justify $110 piece no matter how collectible you make it look.

So they do a bunch of unique exclusive sculpts for the KS, but the 10th Anniversary set is really a fancy base for a general release sculpt? Boo.....

Disappointed, but then I find the Butcher the least interesting Khador character. If it really is just the base, paper, and coin, I would have made it Asphyxious vs. the Butcher on a battle base.

 silent25 wrote:
So they do a bunch of unique exclusive sculpts for the KS, but the 10th Anniversary set is really a fancy base for a general release sculpt? Boo.....

Disappointed, but then I find the Butcher the least interesting Khador character. If it really is just the base, paper, and coin, I would have made it Asphyxious vs. the Butcher on a battle base.

Well no one said you had to buy it! I personally am a big fan of the Butcher so that's why I was on a need to know basis.


I was very disappointed with the exclusive kick starter mini's. Not that I thought it was an unfair deal or didn't want to spend the money, I just don't play video games. With that said, in reality I will be spending $60 on a cool solo. Yea Ill have a PC game.... but I probably wont even try it out.

I thought the price would have been a lot higher to be honest. Its not actually bad for a collectors piece and the base could probably fill in some scenery. The only bad thing about it is the minis themselves are just the regular version that will be released later on. Not that the models are bad cos it looks dam good just they could have done a special model for it as opposed to what will be released anyway. I digress though when he comes out normally i`d certainly pick him up!

 Grimtuff wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
The crossover of trolls into mercenaries is never something I was a fan of :-/. I wish he would have been a minion (for Hordes), instead...

He is. He's both. It says mercenary minion solo.

Wow, I typed his description several times and still didn't get that . Talk about complicated!

 derek wrote:
The crossover existed before Hordes did, Boomhowler's has been around forever. And he is a Minion, his card might even be a Minion one, like Alten or Lanyssa.

That's exactly my point, that they should have converted them over to minions... instead they're scattered between mercenaries and minions. It just seems extremely unnecessary (imo).

I actually like that the miniatures are the regular ones available for later release. I have never, ever been a collector at heart and am baffled whenever a company would take their best sculpts and not sell them.