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I am currently giving up smoking for the 5th time (statistically the time i will give up ).
I am going cold turkey (no patches, pills, inhalers ect.) well smoking about 1 a day or less.
I am 3 days in so far and strangely after the first 2 days of pain i am feeling motivated, my brain has stopped being clouded by a lack of nicotene.
I have never felt so good whilst quitting before and when i scabbed a smoke this morning off some random person i had 1/4 then felt so sick i threw the rest away. does this mean i might quit permanently?
Any advice?

If you're going to stop, stop.
don't cut down, don't have "just one"
Quit and be done with it.

Yep, you gotta go all the way, and divorce yourself as much as you can from social settings that encourage you to continue smoking.

Don't stop - just switch to vaping or e-cigs - Less stressful, less chance of a relapse. Fanta flavoured smoke!

It's "down the road, not across the street"
Failure adds a mandatory psych eval and that will follow you for the rest of your life.
(what? He asked for wrist cutting advice ... )


If you're going to stop, stop.
Avoid circumstances where you are compelled to smoke (if it means giving up booze as well, then that's how it's gotta be).

Lace your ciggies with some of that stuff they use to get people to stop biting their nails. I had a friend do that and it worked for her quite well. Just a few drops on the end of your cig and it tastes awful.

Bullockist wrote:
I am currently giving up smoking for the 5th time (statistically the time i will give up ).
I am going cold turkey (no patches, pills, inhalers ect.) well smoking about 1 a day or less.
I am 3 days in so far and strangely after the first 2 days of pain i am feeling motivated, my brain has stopped being clouded by a lack of nicotene.
I have never felt so good whilst quitting before and when i scabbed a smoke this morning off some random person i had 1/4 then felt so sick i threw the rest away. does this mean i might quit permanently?
Any advice?

It was a similar experience for me. I sparked up my first smoke of the day and dry retched on the first draw; just couldn't go on with it. I did have one added incentive however: anger. At the time both my grandparents had died of smoking related illness, and regular visits to the hospital chest wards really drove home the reality of it; I quit soon after and haven't looked back.

Theres an app out there (if you have a smartphone) that you can use. You record when you smoke, when you think about smoking, etc. And it shows you how often you do, how long its been, etc. Psychologically it provides extra motivation, and makes it into a sort of game which has been proven to psychologically increase chances of success. Dont know the name but some google-fu should help.

You can also try replacing it, eat chocolate or carrot sticks or a churro or something every time you want a cig... just be careful not to replace the addiction

Identify your 'trigger times'.

for me this was after dinner, any time I had a cup of tea or, most especially, going to the pub.

I failed the first two attempts to give up smoking, both of which I maintained for a couple of months, because I went out drinking, ended up smoking through the night and had tobacco left in the morning.

If you want to seriously give up, make sure you're not around smokers. Make sure you're not getting boozed as this reduces your willpower.

The only thing I am thankful to Tony Blair for is getting rid of smoking in pubs, it played a significant part in my giving up.

I've found the first 3-4 days were the worst. If you can get away with it sleep. The first time I quit I wasn't working and slept away most of the cravings, binging on coffee (my other addiction) and going for walks.
But once you stop DON'T START FOR ANY REASON. No 'I've had a stressful day, just one' smokes, no post coital smokes nothing. Stay away from smokers if you can. and if you have a trigger time/behaviour avoid it. If you normally smoke while painting, don't paint for a week. Then when the cravings aren't so bad try it. (painting, not smoking)
Bright side: if you scabbed a smoke and it caused you to dry heave, that's a very good sign. Don't test that though.

For wrist cutting tips I recommend not being a pussy about gak and going straight to sepukku.

Feeling sick from smoking after not having a smoke for a while does not mean you're going to successfully quit smoking.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
For wrist cutting tips I recommend not being a pussy about gak and going straight to sepukku.

Well you need two people for sepukku, plus wrist cutting isn't always about suicide and even when it is, it has a very low success rate.

If you're genuinely asking for "wrist cutting tips" and are actually intent on wrist cutting, then I recommend you don't use razors/knives/broken glass or anything with a blade. They scar way too much. If you really got to hurt yourself and see yourself bleed, scratch yourself with something like a staple. Also remember, when you're finished with self-harm, scars are permanent. If you hurt yourself with a method that leaves scars and you can't stop yourself from doing it, focus on one area. Don't spread it around, because that'll make the scars harder to conceal long after you've stopped self-harming. Also try to sterilize the instrument of choice.
Cutting can be addictive. The best way to quit is to separate yourself from the sharp things you hurt yourself with.

An alternative to self-harming is to wear a thick elastic on your wrist, then stretch it and release when you're mad. That method doesn't leave scars.

And always talk to someone if you're upset enough to want to hurt yourself. *cuddles*

Gah, I stopped for 8 months and started again yesterday. :(

It's bloody hard quitting smoking but just keep trying mate. You'll get there. I read Allen Carr's The Easy Way to Quit and it helped me. It won't help everyone but what have you got to lose, right?

As for the wrist cutting stuff, I think the comments above are in poor taste. Self harm is not a joke and neither is it something that requires 'tips'. If you truly feel like that's something you need to do, then you need to find someone you can talk to about it. It doesn't mean your crazy or a bad person, it just means you have some deep emotions that need to be dealt with. It doesn't have to be a professional, a friend or relative that you can trust can help you just as much. If it's related to the frustrations of quitting smoking then I can sympathise. I have been a smoker for 20 years and I am only 27 years old :( Find yourself a 'quit partner' who you can talk to when you're feeling like gak.

 Paint_To_Redemption wrote:

As for the wrist cutting stuff, I think the comments above are in poor taste. Self harm is not a joke and neither is it something that requires 'tips'.

Sheesh, did you even read my comment? I wasn't joking. Cutting can be addictive and if he's already started he might be compelled to do it again. You can try to use a text box on the internet to stop him, but the next best thing is to show how it can be done in a way that won't be as harmful. People who go to town on their arms with razors don't always consider the permanent effects of cutting.
I must again emphasize that the best way to avoid self-harming is to separate yourself from the sharp things you hurt yourself with.

All this coming from someone who has witnessed a friend cut the back of their own left arm to ribbons with a pair of scissors because they were so unhappy.

Ok, the wrist cutting jokes are very tasteless. It's something that gets to be very addictive and is horrible for the person dealing with it to deal with (assuming they aren't just doing it for attention). Sorry, I normally wouldn't normally comment on a thread just to nitpick like that, but self harm jokes are pretty much the only thing that can make me get annoyed. If the OP was being serious about it, don't start doing it in the first place as it can be addictive.

Edit: CuddlySquig, I don't believe his comment was directed at you.

Cuddly may not have been joking, but I believe the OP's intent with such a comment was to imply that he might want to kill himself as he gets the smoking out of his system...

 CuddlySquig wrote:

 Paint_To_Redemption wrote:

As for the wrist cutting stuff, I think the comments above are in poor taste. Self harm is not a joke and neither is it something that requires 'tips'.

Sheesh, did you even read my comment? I wasn't joking. Cutting can be addictive and if he's already started he might be compelled to do it again. You can try to use a text box on the internet to stop him, but the next best thing is to show how it can be done in a way that won't be as harmful. People who go to town on their arms with razors don't always consider the permanent effects of cutting.
I must again emphasize that the best way to avoid self-harming is to separate yourself from the sharp things you hurt yourself with.

Yes I did read your comment and as I said, self harm is not something that requires 'safety tips'. The 'joke' I was referring to is a few posts up from yours.

Your advice is akin to saying, 'Welp, since you like injecting heroin anyway, just make sure you don't share needles and while you're at it, inject it in your eye so it leaves no marks.' It's neither appropriate nor good advice. The OP should seek help from a friend or a professional and while I believe that you're not uncaring and just trying to help, you should be encouraging the OP to stop rather than sharing tips on how to do it safely.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Cuddly may not have been joking, but I believe the OP's intent with such a comment was to imply that he might want to kill himself as he gets the smoking out of his system...

I did ask if he was serious or not. Maybe "wrist cutting" is slang for something in Australia. But just in case, I do have experience with this kind of thing.

Apologies to anyone who got offended by the wrist cutting thing, i had intended it as Alfndrate intimated. Cutting is just one addiction i don't understand as i don't see the payoff, so i may have treated it a little lightly.

Wow cuddlysquig great advice on self harming there.

Anyways thanks for the tips and help and stories of your own pain.

It's a little crushing to realise my initial plan to give up drinking for a month to give up smoking may have to be extended to permanently (i smoke like a coal furnace when i'm drunk) , but then again i suppose it's a good opportunity to give up both.

Bullockist wrote:
It's a little crushing to realise my initial plan to give up drinking for a month to give up smoking may have to be extended to permanently (i smoke like a coal furnace when i'm drunk) , but then again i suppose it's a good opportunity to give up both.

Honestly mate, I have given up for 8 months only to fall off the wagon yesterday. Quitting again today (down to my last one) BUT I didn't need to quit drinking. I'm normally like you and smoke like a train when half cut but once you get your head straight that you just don't want to smoke any more, drinking won't make a difference. I am now capable of having a few drinks no problem without smoking so don't stress too much about it.

When the time comes, you will just give it away and won't look back.

Down the tracks, not across them.

Bullockist wrote:
Apologies to anyone who got offended by the wrist cutting thing, i had intended it as Alfndrate intimated. Cutting is just one addiction i don't understand as i don't see the payoff, so i may have treated it a little lightly.

M'kay, just making sure *cuddles* I've had some really nasty personal experiences with self-harm and I treat it a bazillion times more heavily than you seem to. Cutting doesn't make sense until you've had someone you know well who does it explain it to you. I can really sympathize with it.

Now smoking! There's an incomprehensible addiction! Why do people insist on it? Think of all the disposable income you're setting on fire. If you're going to burn money, at least burn it for a good cause, like expanding your warhammer collection, or whatever it is you play.

 CuddlySquig wrote:

Now smoking! There's an incomprehensible addiction! Why do people insist on it? Think of all the disposable income you're setting on fire. If you're going to burn money, at least burn it for a good cause, like expanding your warhammer collection, or whatever it is you play.

Nicotine feels amazing, short term. When it's constantly present... well, it still feels amazing, but it leaves you feeling terrible too.

I can't offer any advice on quitting, though. I quit once due to running out of cash, haven't had any problems avoiding falling back into habitual use on the rare occasions I do smoke, and haven't felt any of the lingering aspects of psychological withdrawal since I took up sculpting (except, of course, when I go too long without working on something, which triggers the same sort of withdrawal symptoms as when I stopped smoking, albeit they take longer to set in, and are much less intense).

I have successfully quit 3 times

Really all of the above advice is pretty solid. The longest I've gone without smoking is 8 months. Everytime i have success with quitting it's due to just stopping cold turkey and keeping distance from other smokers.

Every time I've fallen off the wagon it's because either I started living with a smoker (or they fell off the wagon themselves). In other words, if you live with a smoker, it will be many times more difficult. Try to get them to join you in quitting and you can help keep each other away from the nasty things.

Hello,
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From the depths, arise thread, arise!

"Allen Carr Easy Way To Quit Smoking" It is an amazing program. You can get it in CD, or book format. Me and my girlfriend who both have been smoking for 20 years each quit after listening to the CD's. I dont know "how" it work. But it does! You need to keep smoking while you are listening to the CD's which is part 0f the brilliance! By the time you finish the program you are so over smoking its not funny.

The thread is a year old. And threadomancied by a user as their first and only post. With a link in that post which I refuse to click.

Could this be the next gen of spambots maybe?