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 Rented Tritium wrote:
I like that there are so many head variants now. I will probably use the extras to make regular crisis suits more unique.


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 IPS wrote:
So am I getting this right from the riptide text that Ward wrote the tau codex?

It's unclear. It says "matt", but the picture doesn't look like ward to me and it says he collected tau before working on the codex. It's unclear if this "matt" is the lead designer or not.

Edit: At the top of the page in tiny letters it says "matt holland answers questions about..."


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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=4400034a

Here's a GW article about some tau that Matt Holland converted in the past.

See the broadsides? It's basically the new one. You can see the ideas he used in the new models.

M ok, couldn't make that out.^^

edit: and misread some other parts ><

I really like the look of the new models. Riptide is what the Dreadknight should have been (except the head, which does look too small, hopefully the other variants are better), a monstrous creature suit that actually looks like it belongs in its army.

I like the look of the fliers. They look like a cross between a Devilfish and a Tetra, so I think it fits with the theme of the army.

No new Crisis suits is sad but at least Farsight has a great looking model. The Pathfinders look nice enough, better than the old metal ones that were all bent too close to the ground. And the Broadside... I still have yet to see a good pic of it but from what I did it looks more dynamic than the blocky, old static pose that we're used to. I wish there was some word on new Kroot stuff but oh well.

I have my old Tau army sitting in a bucket of Simple Green right now just waiting for a repaint (they were my first army and badly painted). I won't need to buy too much as I already have a good 2,000 points but I hope the Codex breathes new life into this army. They were always fun to play. Also, I'm just shocked GW is putting out Codex's this fast! I haven't seen a trend like this since 3rd edition.

Now with better pics, I think I rather like Riptide. It's not the greatest model ever, but at least it's much better looking than Dreadknight, I was afraid that mega-suit would look something like that. Someone complained about the ankles, but if it had sturdier ankles it would have made the model look too heavy. It needs to look like it's agile and fast, not cumbersome big brute. And it looks like it's easy to pose (other one was kneeling), there seems to be many options, there are tons of conversion possibilities, you can cut off the stuff you don't like blah blah blah.

Broadsides, pics still aren't perfect, but I'm not big fan of what I'm looking so far. I mean, it's better than the old model, but...

Pathfinders look like...Pathfinders. Old models were excellent, they were pretty much impossible to screw up. Maybe not big fan of some of the poses. Big drone looks bit weird. Devilfish has some sort of Drone thingie on top of it too.

Farsight looks good I guess. Again, previous model was so bad this can't be more than improvement. I wonder about his fluff. Nice that they painted up his famed bodyguards.

By the way, flyer still sucks.

I like the new farsight.
He looked kinda odd for a special commander.
Still nothing on Shadowsun.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, If the WD comes out n march. We are looking at an april 5.
Bloody hell GW, What have you been smoking to come out with releases withing months of eachother. Take a break.

Final proof that GW can never ever please the fanbase.

I really like the new Farsight, although personally, I liked the old rabbit ears, but it looks like an easy conversion to slap em on Farsight 2.0.

It seems they corrected the timeline issues surrounding him. What I can read of the fluff blurb seems to indicate that he's now just a skilled commander with questionable loyalty, and a habit of customizing his suit, instead of a semi-mythical historical figure who probably died long ago. Maybe now he can ditch his terrible limitations and just keep the benefits, since he seems to no longer lead a splinter faction.

Does anyone know if we'll be seeing a plastic character?

I was disappointed with the direction the new Daemons codex went (not disappointed with the power level). I was thinking of going back to Eldar and adding some Tau allies, this news makes that more attractive.

 warboss wrote:
I know there is a snowballs chance in hell of this but I do hope Farsight gets a close combat oriented bodyguard team. I'm got 3-4 of the old sword bits (and possibly shield.. can't remember if I have both) that I'd love to use with my Tau.

That would be great. Old Farsight models could be an excellent use for his bodyguard, considering the crisis suits haven't been redesigned.

I personally and the other 2 local tau players I'm friends with are loving the look of this new stuff! And I can't wait to get my hands on the new codex and find all the lovely combinations!

TheHarleqwin wrote:Gah. I wish we could tell if the Broadsides will be on 60mm bases, or if I can go ahead and order a squad from Forgeworld.

All Forge World Tau Suits are on 60mm bases.

scarletsquig wrote:Thanks for being patronizing, but all those pics are broken for me. Can someone just upload them to dakka?

Not sure if I am on your ignore list, but I reposted the pics 5 posts after yours.

caminacambob wrote:Seems to me that number 4 here reads that the riptide has 3 different heads to choose from. May settle some nay-sayers.

Could well be the nurgle fly syndrome: 'eavy Metal team chosing the ugliest option to showcase.

So here a repost of the new pics in original size, spoilered because of the size:
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487813_10151473726088898_1808352789_n.jpg
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295651_10151473726388898_1911844999_n.jpg
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487850_10151473724943898_1287048633_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/599203_10151473725738898_1057661584_n.jpg
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/63915_10151473725948898_1292857059_n.jpg

More by Kriby on 3++ http://www.3plusplus.net/2013/03/more-tau-picturez/ . Summary:

On Pathfinders: They compete with fliers so I'm guessing no option to move them and they stay in Fast Attack.

On Riptide: Elite.

On Kroot/Vespides: No new info.
There were some solid thoughts on Kroot before with rules, etc. but since they might not have new models soon, they might not want to showcase them. But yes, quite possibly they have been cut until this silly ally supplement book which would be frustrating but that would be very strange as GW generally never removes units from books. Squats being the exception.

On XV88: 85 pts gets S8 AP1 Skyfire for Broadsides; same statline; railguns are now S8 Ap1 base – rail cannons are S10 AP1. They don't lose Overwatch and they can still shoot at the ground at full BS. Not sure if they have S&P.
The way the ruling works is at the beginning of the shooting phase they can choose to have skyfire or not.
Yes the railgun has been nerfed though.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, If the WD comes out n march. We are looking at an april 5.
Bloody hell GW, What have you been smoking to come out with releases withing months of eachother. Take a break.

Final proof that GW can never ever please the fanbase.

Its more like. Slow down. Dont get burnt out and make it worse on us GW.

If that Riptide was a boss in an arcade game, those ankles would be the parts flashing red.

Did anyone else pick up on that the nova reactor on the Riptide may kill it's pilot? Maybe it has Gets Hot or something similar?

one the second page of pathfinders. There is a Pathfinder which looks like it has a rocket launcher.


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Also, are the drones detachable on the flyer?

Thats probably the new portable ion weapon as seen in one of the boxes on the right.

Pretty nice. That might make pathfinders better then tetras.
Depending on how cheap they are.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
one the second page of pathfinders. There is a Pathfinder which looks like it has a rocket launcher.

So I actually just went and read the tiny tiny text.
The first one is unreadable. What I have read actually seems to suggest that the "weapon" is a Markerlight.
The Drones are, from left to right:
Grav Drone
Recon Drone
Pulse Accelerator Drone

Uggggh why couldn't they just give the Riptide a decent head. GW had to screw it up somehow.

Finally given the Tau some love.

Everything they said sounds really awesome. Hope for the best for the Tau players out there.

If your really really lucky you will b eable to over watch at BS rather then BS1 with markerlights.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
one the second page of pathfinders. There is a Pathfinder which looks like it has a rocket launcher.

Spoiler:

So I actually just went and read the tiny tiny text.
The first one is unreadable. What I have read actually seems to suggest that the "weapon" is a Markerlight.
The Drones are, from left to right:
Grav Drone
Recon Drone
Pulse Accelerator Drone

Yeah, to me the first word on the second line of the box 1 description is "markerlight", followed by "carried by the pathfinders". So this might mean that not all pathfinders will have markerlights?

 Harriticus wrote:
Uggggh why couldn't they just give the Riptide a decent head. GW had to screw it up somehow.

I don't exactly know why, but I think the disk top of the recon drone might just make a good Riptide head. its sleek enough not to destroy the height profile, yet looks like it has enough size, lights, cameras, etc. to do the job.

Unless they've completely changed what-is-what on the models, the markerlight was the part on top of their carbines. The long gun that the one pathfinder is holding looks like some kind of Ion weapon. It has the parallel rods and arched-rectangle of the Ion cannon.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
Yeah, to me the first word on the second line of the box 1 description is "markerlight", followed by "carried by the pathfinders". So this might mean that not all pathfinders will have markerlights?

They still have them on their carbines tough, so imho a pathfinder just carrying only a Markerlight would be redundant. Probably they can get the HI-Markerlight from the Tetra?

 Oaka wrote:
If that Riptide was a boss in an arcade game, those ankles would be the parts flashing red.

Funny you should say this...

About a week ago I posted the rumour that the Riptide looked a lot like Saturn out of Borderlands 2.

borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Saturn

Well I wasn't wrong, but the funny thing is that Saturn had crit spots in its ankles.

We also have reason to believe that Aun Shi is in the new codex as on the GW site the miniature that was Aun Shi was changed to just being a regular Ethereal model. If you look at the website now you will see the model is called Aun Shi Tau Ethereal. Giving us more evidence that he is returning.

So, Do the drones detach on the flyers? That would be pretty cool.

If you turn the flyers backwards, you could have passable hammerhead silhouttes from space above and beyond?

Much better pics too /firstworld problem moaning does work

Stoked I like the riptide, I completely hated the idea of the them at first but after seeing the model im going to get one, I just wonder what the fluff explanation will be since they clearly cant fit into a manta, possibly bundles into an orca? :s

Also not sure if anyone noticed but the pathfinder "mystery weapon" looks like a miniature ion cannon, experimental kit for pathfinders maybe?

The overwatch option is going to be literal murder to get through. Esp linked with nearby units.

I would like to see the complete rules, and will do when I buy the codex.

But, on a quick tally vs one unit, move assault unit up to charge range, which would likely be Tau RF range. 24 shots (assuming 12 pr) Charge, take 24 overwatch shots*, tau consolidate out of range, take 24 shots again then charge into a further 24 shots before engagement.

So thats 48 shots at BS3 and 48 shots at BS1 for app 32 hits. Could you use a deathstar against that? I would say that if you want to assault Tau, you will have to hit the entire line all at once, there's no half hearted measures against that.

Cheers

Andrew

* I never realised that overwatch allowed full RoF. Or at least according to P20 it does, has it changed anywhere?