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Although I know it won't happen, I'd love to see Kroot Mercenary support.
   
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RVA

With a rumored Kroot HQ choice and editiin-wide allies rules you might basically have that.

   
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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

I'd totally pick that up were that to come to fruition. I'm not specially fond of Tau in general but I find the Kroots lore to be interesting.
   
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Surely all the Tau novels coming out would be able to give some better clue to dates?

How did Ravenwing for example stack up with Codex Dark Angels release?
   
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 Ouze wrote:
Although I know it won't happen, I'd love to see Kroot Mercenary support.

Good luck hunting flyers, with eviscerators being almost your only anti-tank

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Not a fan of Tau, but they need an update.

I hope ya'll are ready for charts!



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 pretre wrote:
You want rumors?
Spoiler:


Hastings:
[spoiler]
Tau Rumors - Nov 2012
Anybody who might be interested in what tau models (or at least one of them) you can really expect next year might want to type "Fil Dunn tau" into a google image search PENDING
Just to clear things up there IS something very similar to that image coming for tau.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oXlQNq-K8UU/Tv7klfpcZ-I/AAAAAAAAEW8/5QbGkdH7ECs/s1600/Warhammer%2BBattlesuit.jpg

Release Schedule
WD 393 starter TRUE
WD 394 CSM TRUE
WD 395 WoC TRUE
WD 396 Hobbit TRUE
DA are the last available for pre-orders in 2012 TRUE
After that...
CD/DoC DUPLICATE
Tau PENDING
HE PENDING
Eldar PENDING
LM PENDING


Antipathy:
Spoiler:
Tau Rumors - Oct 2012
the old trackers (elite cavalry with sniper rifles) PENDING
vultures (fast attack jump infantry) PENDING
ridden kroot monsters previously from fw PENDING


Demiurg:
Spoiler:
Starter Set Rumors - July 2012
RRP for Starter set is 75 pounds TRUE
Flyers - Tau, PENDING
Flyers - Eldar PENDING
Tyranid Harpy PENDING


Natfka:
Spoiler:
Tau Rumors - March 2013
via an Anonmyous Source from the Faeit 212 inbox
None of the Forgeworld suits will be in the new Tau codex. PENDING

There are two new suits, however and the crisis and broadsides are both being redone and are very distinct from one another. PENDING

The hazard suits will remain as a Forgeworld supplement and are even referenced in the fluff in a few places. They're just non-standard issue and still considered in prototype for various reasons. PENDING

The Kroot hq replaces the 1+ requirement on fire warriors with a Kroot unit. PENDING

Tau Rumors - Feb 2013
sky ray orbital blast ability. forgo his full turn of shooting for a single unlimited range blast that is:strength X AP 3 (wound on 2+,plasma corrosion, blast) PENDING
plasma corrosion - any enemy model hit under the blast rolls a d6 every turn for the remainder of the game on a roll of 1-3 the unit or model suffers d6 strength 4 AP5 hits. On a roll of 4-5 the unit suffers 2d6 strength 5 AP 4 hits. On a roll of a 6 the unit is hit with 2d6 strength 6 AP 2 hits with the blind special rule. (these are test rules and subject to change)

Tau fire warriors will have the OPTION to upgrade their tau fire warriors to bs 4 PENDING

battle suits are getting/got new models but have the same profile as now with the inclusion of an option to make them toughness 5 (cost or name is unknown) PENDING

The kroot is getting a HUGE monster that looks like something from fantasy. It has kroot riding it but is under going constant rule changes due to either dying to quickly or for lack of usage. PENDING
From what I remember seeing it has 5 wounds but only a 5+ save and was over priced IMO. PENDING

kroot gain furious charge and move through cover and start with a 6+ save that can be upgraded to 5+ with shaper for an additional 2pts per model (making them 8pts per model) - remember this could change! PENDING

finally their is options to make all your battle suits have 2+ saves for 20pts per model - all war gear that is in the current codex has been reduced slightly. PENDING

the tau dread knight walker rumours you have read are 100% TRUE PENDING

WS BS S T W I A LD SV
4 4 6 8 4 2 4 8 2+/4+ PENDING

points which were : 210pts. note the points were highlighted in red marker which means they are subject to change at next play testing. TOO VAGUE

Tau Rumors - Feb 2013
Gatling ion blaster: 30'' S:6 AP:3 Assault:3 PENDING
plasma storm blaster: 40'' S:9 AP:1 Assault:1 (lance,system failure,implosion) PENDING

system failure: If you score a glancing or a penetrating hit on a roll of a 6 you cause a system failure in the enemy tank/flyer. The tank/flyer cannot move or shoot for the remainder of the turn. The tank/flyer controlling player must roll a d6 every turn for the remainder of the game, on a roll of 1 the tank/flyer has a system failure again and may not shoot or move again. PENDING

implosion: if you score a explosion on a tank/flyer then it explodes 2d6 inches instead of the normal d6. PENDING

The new big kroot model is actually the krootox giant, from what I have been told fluff points to the tau making the krootox genetics being advance and in doing this increasing the size, strength and toughness. PENDING

the krootox giant has the following rules and stats - these I believe will change as we have had much discussions upon this unit and cannot be certain if it is powerful enough for a competitive environment.

Krootox Giant: WS BS S T W I A LD SV
6 3 8 6 4 1 5 7 4+ PENDING

Special rules: Smash, monstrous creature, rage,mental without control, move through cover,fleet PENDING

mental without control: If your krootox giant loses his krootox rider then the Giant must pass a leadership test every turn otherwise will attack the closest enemy unit. If the Giant cannot reach a target then it misses it next turn while it cools down. PENDING

this unit at the moment costs : 200pts & can upgrade it's armour save to 3+ with a piece of war gear from the kroot armoury PENDING

Flyer/Daemons - January 2013

it's an air caste pilot who is tau, not an alien. PENDING

There are some expanded vespid options being explored and the Tau empire is really being fleshed out as a commerce driven "all are welcome if they serve the common good" attitude. PENDING

the current schedule calls for Daemons in feb TRUE
flyers in march. PARTIALLY TRUE

A fantasy update in April PENDING
it's 40k and a little bit of hobbit from May to August with a new supplement TOO VAGUE?
a big launch in September for 40k PENDING
then a fantasy fall and shares Christmas. TOO VAGUE

Tau Rumors - Oct 2012
-Tau are coming early next year. PENDING
-Unit profiles are being finalized. TOO VAGUE
-The Tau are looking more and more like it will utilize and potentially modify the allies feature. PENDING
-unique fortifications. PENDING
-HQ option to make crisis suits troops (not a special character, just an upgrade) PENDING
-crisis suits remain roughly the same but have a couple new weapon options. PENDING
-New 1-per-squad weapons PENDING
-new heavy support suit that has stats like a carnifex and no jet pack, just a big mech PENDING
-new elite suit that has a lot of sub 18" gun options, with a high rate of fire, or low AP. High toughness and -good armour save at a minor loss of mobility (think jump pack instead of jet pack) PENDING
-two flyers, one for AtA one for AtG (same basic fuselage) PENDING
-fire warriors are a little bit better and have more of a stormtrooper / commando feel, than a rank and file guardsman feel. PENDING
-oh and one of the other things right now, I was able to confirm that the current playtest is that firewarriors who do move in the movement phase may immediately run after firing their pulse carbines in the shooting phase. PENDING

Release Schedule Rumors - August 2012
- Tau Copperhead (finished), PENDING
- Tau have a system of unit upgrades that get unlocked by another unit or other effects. For example, a Firewarrior cadre with an ethereal next to it, with markerlight support and scouting kroot unit will get a serious buff. Every unit has a small chart for three of these effects. PENDING



Harry from Warseer:
Spoiler:


40k Release Schedule -
August 2012
CSM TRUE
Dark Angels TRUE
Tau PENDING
Sisters PENDING
Eldar PENDING
SM PENDING
(With 2nd waves and odds and sods thrown in)


Larry vela:
Release Schedule
JAN: Dark Angels DUPLICATE
FEB: Daemons DUPLICATE
MAR: Wave month (hobbit, warriors of chaos, 40k) DUPLICATE
APR: High Elves PENDING
MAY: Tau PENDING
JUN: Summer wave (40k, supplement book for 40k) PENDING
JUL: Lizardmen PENDING
AUG: Mystery Box PENDING
SEP: Wave month DUPLICATE
NOV: Eldar PENDING


Marik Law
Spoiler:
Black Templars and Codex Authors
Robin is doing Tau Empire, PENDING

Ornithopter
Spoiler:
Tau Thread - July 2012
Warriors of Chaos (CSM?) PARTIALLY TRUE
and Dark Angels are next TRUE
Tau and Eldar after that PENDING
There are kroot in the Tau Codex PENDING
No Lamprey PENDING
Logan rumors are fake TOO VAGUE
No wave of fliers this year TRUE
No more multi-part plastic characters, moving to multi-part finecast FALSE


shaso_iceborn:
Spoiler:
More Tau - March 2013
Tau will be released in June, PENDING
a new Farsight model. PENDING
New Kroot HQ, PENDING
2 New Fliers PENDING
2 new Suit options PENDING

Tau Races - March 2013
no new races (no Demiurge after all). PENDING
Kroot will be expanded PENDING
New Vespid were play-tested I am awaiting confirmation as to whether or not they made into final print. SPECULATION
There are multiple fliers and and new units. PENDING

Big Tau Suit - Nov 2012
'big tau suit': WS2, BS4, S5, T6, W4, I2, A2, Ld8, Sv2+4++ PENDING

Tau Rumors - Nov 2012
Basically according to my sources it's pretty much a Dreadknight sized suit with dual (note not twin linked) rail cannons and SMS with a rule for something I will call "hail-fire" in that it shoots massive barrage of weapondry if not moving in the movement phase. PENDING

Tau Rumors - Oct 2012
Mako as well as the Copperhead for flier names. PENDING
My sources still say June for the release PENDING
I have also heard the Hammerhead will receive a Swordfish option turret PENDING
one of the first 4-in 1 tank kit boxes with an extra sprue added as well as a price increase. PENDING


Tau - 2012
March 2013 Tau PENDING

Tau - July 2012
Mini Ally codexes for Tau PENDING


Stickmonkey:
Spoiler:
Tau Rumors - Feb 2013
he said during playtest all Tau got a DtW reroll. Tau in Suits got a 5+ DtW. PENDING

The Kroot monster is very cool looking, but I fear rules wise its going to suffer from Pyrovore syndrome. Its expensive, and shortlived. A beast in CC, but it's hard to get it there. Roughly the size of a Maulerfiend, its like a hybrid between the Krootox and the Great Knarloc. Beaked head. 4legged. Over muscled. Kinda apelike pose and body structure. PENDING

The "uber-suit" is NOT at all like a wraithlord. It is not suited for CC, and really cant be outfitted for that role. Last I saw the T was only 7, but others are saying it is T8. I was talking about it with my source earlier and he made mention of the plasma weapon having ignore cover and thinking it will be the load out of choice. He felt that it was very balanced points to capability wise for its role in the codex. Visual wise it is definitely in line with the battle suit. Reminds me a lot of the old BattleTech line merged with Tau aesthetic.PENDING

I don't think the Vespid Scooter made the cut. It was in a number of early drafts, kind of like the genosian fighters in Star Wars. Yes, flying creatures with a flying vehicle... Named after a famous motorized bike.... 80s GW may have done this, not 10s. SPECULATION

Tau Rumors - Feb 2013
Ethereals: These now grant army wide special rules and bubble rules, but there are different options. They function roughly much like those recent Dark Angels banners. So one option might be army wide Ld rerolls while in play, plus units in 12" are fearless. Another option might be one unit in army gets salvo once per turn, and all units in 12" get rerolls to hit. PENDING

Kroot: Everyone's favorite birdmen get Scout, Furious Charge, Move thru Cover. Kroot Hounds and Kroot hawks! Shaper can unlock additional unit upgrades. PENDING

"Sneaky Kroot": Look for an ELITES Kroot unit that can hide in terrain like Ymgarl Genestealers. PENDING

Knarloc: The new big beasty model, very similar to the Forgeworld Great Knarloc (see below). Monstrous Creature, with a trample attack allowing it to run 3d6" and cause 2d6 S6 AP6 wounds to any unit it crosses. It may additionally use this special move to charge a unit, gains +2A and the assault-grenades ability when charging in this manner. PENDING

Vespid: The maligned bug men are redeemed! Big improvements, weapon range increase, point reduction, hit and run. PENDING

Vespid Flyer: Smallest flyer in game, like a jetbike, single blaster as weapon, vector-dancer PENDING

Fortifications: Deep striking turrets as fortification options. Burst cannons or missile pods options. PENDING

Tau Flyer Transport: 13 13 12 armor, holds a full Fire Warrior or Crisis Suit squad, or single Uber-suit. Not a lot of weapons, but HP:3, and has a save from wargear that can be taken. Deep strike. Rules-wise is focused on getting units reliably to a location. PENDING

The Uber-suit: So many options currently it's hard to keep them straight. It's a mobile weapon platform, with rail guns as it's main weapon system, - which can be upgraded to a plasma weapon system or ion cannons. Classified as monstrous creature. 2+/4++ save. It can forgo shooting and movement to gain 2++ save. The Uber can move as jump infantry if it does not shoot it's main weapons. VERY HIGH toughness, no existing weapon can instant death it. Although it can smash if it has to, it is not designed as a close combat unit at all. Cost is comparable to a Terminator squad. It can take drone support. PENDING

FOC: Some specific HQs move Crisis Suits to troops. One moves two Kroot units to troops. PENDING

Psykers-defense: All Tau have some base immunity to psychic powers, and thus any Tau unit can deny the witch, with the suits gaining an improvement to this roll. PENDING

Tau Rumors - Feb 2013
Caveat: Many of these are said to be "in process". Don't look for *exact match* rules to survive to the printed codex.

Crisis Suits: Look for more posable new models. PENDING
Unit keeps its high level of customization, with several upgrades to stat lines possible. PENDING
New flakk missile pods. PENDING
New combi-kit includes Broadside parts. PENDING

Stealth Suits: Models unchanged. PENDING
Have stealth, (obviously), plus optional drone granting shrouding. PENDING

Sky Ray: Last edition's trainwreck gets a new lease on life. Flakk missiles, plus has orbital bombardment (much like SM version, but with a lingering effect). PENDING

Fire Warriors: Same nasty gun. Still BS:3, but with a Shas'O can upgrade unit to BS:4. PENDING

Drones: Any drone can be used for Look Out Sir rolls for any model in the unit they are attached to. PENDING

Markerlights: A single hit increases BS of all other units targeting the victim by +1. Multiple markerlights have no additional effects. OUCH - look out for possible BS:5, Fire Warrior volleys now! Markerlights improve snapfire against marked flyers to 5+ instead of 6, but must first hit the flyer with a 6 themselves. PENDING

Networked Markerlights: A longer range twin linked version. Vehicles only. PENDING

Tau Rumors
- Tau Q2/Q3 2013 PENDING
- kroot are in fact still part of Tau, and have a new unit or two including a beastly transport PENDING
- There are no demiurge in the Tau codex PENDING
- new crisis suits PENDING
- multiple new suits in the codex, crisis being what we know, PENDING
- there is also a smaller suit similar to the stealth suit, but not as bulky designed for close combat, PENDING
- broadsides while the same relative size as a crisis suit have much more bulk to them and are a separate build/model. PENDING
- bigger suit, which has been reported from others. Reports have it being a ranged beast(metaphorically, not literally) with 2 twin linked rail cannons and a missile option. So I'm sure it will become a target of choice in games PENDING
- new cc suit which will share a box with the new stealth suit. PENDING
- the new piranha option is to transport a cc suit unit, this option replaces the drone pods on the sides PENDING
- plastic kit in the works for pathfinders PENDING
- the ethereals have a new race that they are using as a psychic conduit. PENDING
- remora drones will be in the codex as flyers PENDING
- Flyer has dual gattling cannons PENDING
- Flyer has option for rail guns PENDING
- Flyer has options for AA missiles or bombs, But can't take both. PENDING
- Jaws Railgun Mostly confirmed this is the way of it, but that it does have a max distance. Some conflicting rumors that you roll for number of hull points it penetrates when fired, or it's fixed. And also conflicting sources saying if it penetrates it causes 2 hull points of damage vs 1. PENDING

Tau Rumors - August 2012
- Tau Codex early next year. PENDING
- Kroot and other existing allies are there, however they are limited. PENDING
- There appears to be an "Allies" supplement which will be out about the same time and include many more options. PENDING
- Crisis suits completely redone. PENDING
- Stealth suits completely redone. PENDING
- Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit. PENDING
- New Pathfinders were seen being worked on a while back. PENDING
- Ethereals expanded, new unit options around them. PENDING
- There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. PENDING
- The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model. PENDING
- New fast skimmer sized between hammerhead and pirahna. PENDING
- Flyer has dual gattling cannons PENDING
- Flyer has option for rail guns PENDING
- Flyer has bombs (not missiles!?) PENDING
- Railguns have a JOWW effect, they can hit multiple models in a line, but if hitting vehicles has a max number of hull points it can cause. the way this is described is it draws a line from the barrel to table edge, every model under starts taking hits starting with the closest. if it hits a vehicle or structure with HP, its strength drops, once it hits 3 or a table edge or fails to make a penetrating hit its done. rhino line's watch out! PENDING
- There is some rumor of an Anti Psyker weapon. like night fighting, but no psychic powers for a game turn. PENDING
- There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options PENDING
- The jetpack troops have some option to "pop up and shoot" from behind cover. PENDING

Flyers - June 2012
Before end of August 2012 FALSE
Eldar dual kit. Fighter, bomber/heavy, transport. Heavy attack and transport share design PENDING
Tau fighter/gunship, size of stormtalon. new missiles options involving markerlights PENDING
Tau transport in codex PENDING
Dark eldar bomber in August PENDING
Third Necron Flyer in 2013-ish PENDING

Necrons/Tau/SM - Sept 2010
- Tau - New Heavy support platform. Basically immobile deep striked! heavy weapon and crew. Rail and Ion Cannon, and missile launcher are all obvious options
here, but nothing solid with the rumor. PENDING
-Tau Assault Skimmer. Something between size of piranha and hammerhead, fast skimmer open topped, assault on disembark. PENDING
- Update: Yes, its assault after a flat out move, and has the "drop troops along path" option similar to the storm raven. its supposedly a dedicated transport option for one new unit.PENDING
- New Drop ship. Not the FW one, but something new. Holds a boatload of fire warriors, or a few battle suits. PENDING
- New battle suits. Not sure if these are the "next gen" suits or just heavy suits redone with out metal bits. PENDING



Tauownz:
Spoiler:
Tau Rumors - March 2013
Tau - 5/13 PENDING
[/spoiler]


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They seem to be bringing out poor qualitly codexs monthly
   
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I noticed one rumor made the comment that a Kroot HQ would replace the +1 FW unit with Kroot. That's something I didn't see brought up in other rumors. I thought the +1 unit was a 4th ed thing, are we going to be stuck with units we are forced to bring?

I've also noticed the rumor of a fortification popping up every now and again. Last three books didn't include any new fortifications so I'm really interested to see how this pans out.

My friend reminded me the other day of a list of model names and stock numbers that came out like a year ago, included the Nautilus Defense Platform and the Mako. He still swears by it, but I thought it was a proven forgery. Anyone else know what I'm refering to? I haven't seen it in a long time and can't remember what the story behind it was.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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 Savageconvoy wrote:
My friend reminded me the other day of a list of model names and stock numbers that came out like a year ago, included the Nautilus Defense Platform and the Mako. He still swears by it, but I thought it was a proven forgery. Anyone else know what I'm refering to? I haven't seen it in a long time and can't remember what the story behind it was.

It was never definitely proved to be a forgery, but everyone still holds onto it because it was what they wanted.

Once June rolls around and none of it materializes, we can finally put that one to bed.

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Judging by the lack of solid rumours, or rumours with any real information, I'd say it is most likely looking to be June. From memory, we knew pretty much everything in the Dark Angels codex two months before it was announced. How well do GW keep things secret these days?
   
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Yeah, but Daemons got through with hardly any leaks.

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 pretre wrote:
Yeah, but Daemons got through with hardly any leaks.


But people hadn't been wildly grabbing at rumours for them for the past four years
   
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 Kroothawk wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
Although I know it won't happen, I'd love to see Kroot Mercenary support.

Good luck hunting flyers, with eviscerators being almost your only anti-tank


Almost... Kroot can certainly make good use of the Aegis Defense Line, complete with Krootox-mounted Quad Gun.



I'm really excited to see the new codex in regards to finally fielding a legal all-Kroot army. I couldn't really be bothered whether it comes out in April or July, but it will give me plenty of time to finish painting my knarloc riders and it means that I will be using my army as counts-as Dark Eldar for the last time at the end of March.

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FrozenSoul80 wrote:
Judging by the lack of solid rumours, or rumours with any real information, I'd say it is most likely looking to be June. From memory, we knew pretty much everything in the Dark Angels codex two months before it was announced. How well do GW keep things secret these days?


That doesn't seem right at all. Dark Angels-- like Chaos Marines and Chaos Daemons-- had tons of mysterious and false rumors floating around until the actual release. In fact, many of the accurate rumors were only so because they had been taken from the WD battle report that came out a week before!
   
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Fire Caste has just gone up for sale on iBooks today...
time to have a read-through, and see what new units are introduced...
all the new units of Ravenwing were included in that novel, so this one may be a huge spoiler, leading me to believe that Tau are coming in April...
i'll report back tomorrow if i find anything interesting in the book...

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I read the blurb about that book, it sounds pretty Imperium-centric... Let me know if Tau are portrayed fairly (which would be a huge change of pace.) If so, I'll get it.

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It actually does portray the Tau in a 'more-fair' manner than most of the other BL books so far...

It mentions only one new unit - "Cuttlefish" - a troop transport skimmer.

However, due to the fact it was mentioned only once, I think it was a typo for "Devilfish".
   
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Cuttlefish actually sounds familiar. Is there any way that could be the odd flying transport we've heard of? Any specifics about how it's mentioned?

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All these damnable rumours are going to force me to restart my Tau army from years ago. If any of these are true then we could be in for an awesome 'dex.

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We really haven't seen a stand out codex since 6th dropped. I know there are only three books out. Only one unit really stands out as an amazing unit, the Heldrake. Everything really seems to be relatively balanced so far. I would expect the army to get significantly better, but don't really see it breaking the trend of balance.

It's one of the reasons why I'm very skeptical about certain rumors. Like getting an interceptor railgun, modifying the ally chart/foc, and "mobile" fortifications. I'm also interested to see how viable the all Crisis suit and all Kroot lists would be.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

"The argument is that we have to do this or we will, bit by bit,
lose everything that we hold dear, everything that keeps the business going. Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky."
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I dont know, I would be surprised if it is an upgrade to give it intercepter.

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They seem to be very stingy with Sky Fire. Missile upgrades per launcher, Hyrdas soley acting as AA, and the Soulgrinder are the only examples outside of the universal fortifications. None of those had Interceptor or even the option for it. That alone would give Tau the capability that no other army would really have, the ability to create a massive handicap for flyer spamming armies.

I understand that I'm not speaking for everybody and not covering every issue, forgive me if I generalize. The armies that I have seen issues with Flyer Spam are Necrons and IG where they have good flyers, flying transports, and the lack of a reliable interceptor weapons in the current enviornment and both of them are 5th ed books. The trend with 6th edition doesn't show that they're trying to fix the issue of massed flyers.

I'm sure if they did change the trend and actually gave the uber suit... Ok I can't stand calling it that. If they actually gave this Heavy Battlesuit... much better... it would probably limited to a one per army item or insanely expensive. The ability to bring three Heavy Suits and a Fortification would just flip things around too much IMO.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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We have stuff that breaks the mold TBH, Thing that increase BS, Things that allow us to fire two weapons and things that allow use ti ignore all that stuff.

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I wouldn't say breaking the mold. We can shoot two weapons, but have more restrictive access to special weapons. We have BS increasing items, on BS3 models, and expensive/limited access to them.

Of course both of those are subject to change. The rumor indicated they were going to give suits a BS boost, and significant nerf to markerlights, including the removal of our cover negating ability.

But I don't pretend to know what will or should be changed. There's a lot to fix with Tau and there's a lot of room to work. I'm just guessing some things based off what we've seen recently.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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 Savageconvoy wrote:
Cuttlefish actually sounds familiar. Is there any way that could be the odd flying transport we've heard of? Any specifics about how it's mentioned?


seems to be an open-topped transport...
definitely something new...
we'll see if it makes it into the Codex...

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I'm confused about why they would reinvent the wheel with the flyers. They already have the most complete flyer lineup from FW outside of the Imperial Navy. They have a fighter, a freaking spaceship that drops off an entire army, a midsize transport, a weird drone support thing, an attack craft, and drone fighters. Now they want to add two more to that hanger? Stupid. I get the rule about not rebranding FW as GW but they have a history or breaking that rule with Tau (I'm looking at you, skyray and pirannah). Plus, all those models are years old, especially the barracuda, which is the prestige one that everyone will want to buy in the new codex. I doubt they have sold a Barracuda model in the last two months so maybe, hopefully GW will just release plastic versions of two existing craft as opposed to shoveling even more flyers at the air caste. At some point that would just get stupid.

Also, is it too much to ask for one 'regular' strike fighter in the game? The barracuda could be that. All the other flyers, even if they are good ruleswise, just don't really feel right as strike fighters.

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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army so no.

Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.

 
   
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I just have trouble waiting for the codex. I really would be happy with anything new. even if it all turns out to be terrible. The least they could do is give new fluff.

   
 
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