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On Nimbosa, cramming as many guardsmen into troop carriers as possible.

cc demiurg suits! I remember reading somewhere about an extremely psychic race the tau were hiding from the iom, so maybe some psychers? If we get psychers, I wont use them, my tau army is based on shooting the crap out of things with marine allies for cc, I dont need a bunch of wizards who somehow are more powerful than a 7 foot tall giant in power armor with a gun that shoots mini rpgs!

Just a guess

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How many Imperial Guardsmen does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

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Ugh, please stop with the WD codecies. If you don't get it on the release date, you're completely SOL. Where do I get the DakkaJet rules, or the Sisters of Battle Rules? Where will I be able to get these F'ing Kroot Rules 2 weeks after the WD drops?

Unless, of course, you own a $500 ipad.

/grinding that fething axe...

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kronk wrote:Ugh, please stop with the WD codecies. If you don't get it on the release date, you're completely SOL. Where do I get the DakkaJet rules, or the Sisters of Battle Rules? Where will I be able to get these F'ing Kroot Rules 2 weeks after the WD drops?

Unless, of course, you own a $500 ipad.

/grinding that fething axe...


Last I checked, they still have the relevent WD available on the website.

Also, as much as I don't like apple, etc; you can access the apple bookstore on pc and android.

   
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Ovion wrote:
Last I checked, they still have the relevent WD available on the website.

Also, as much as I don't like apple, etc; you can access the apple bookstore on pc and android.


Nope. Those WD's are sold out and have been for a long time.

So you can look at the DakkaJet apple thingy on an android tablet?

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Please, let's not get into the argument about GW only supporting Apple at the moment. There are at least 2 threads that have devolved into name calling contests over it.

White Dwarf 390 sold out almost immediately in the U.S.A. Unless you have an Ipad you were pretty much forced to, find it on internet, photocopy the rules from a friend, or go without.


   
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The Kroot have a codex that was partly made by Andy Hoare from GW and another person. A PDF file exists...

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Vulkan's Forgemaster wrote:The Kroot have a codex that was partly made by Andy Hoare from GW and another person. A PDF file exists...

Actually, it WAS a WD Codex (one month after first Codex release), and it was credited to Andy Hoare and noone else.

And I find the GW marketing strategy to make essential rules an extremely limited splash release disturbing.

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Honestly, I'm betting the Flyer Rules, and future mini dex, will turn up on the GW website, but only after they have sold out the White Dwarfs and sold a bunch of Ibook copies as well.

There is always a frenzy for new stuff/rules, and after they've made their money from that frenzy it makes sense they'll toss the rules on the site so they can sell more models.


   
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I don’t have a problem with little mini-armies as add-ons. I think it could expand the game in a positive way. In a strange way it sort of reminds me of the mercenaries you could hire in War Craft III. They were different to anything you had in your own army, but gave you an edge in some situations. If this could be used to introduce smaller Demiurge or Harlequin forces, and similar such items, then that would be fantastic.

Of course, the real problem with this idea is the whole White Dwarf angle. As the past couple of WD rules releases (SoB, Space Guppy) have shown, these issues tend to run out really quickly and then... they’re gone. That’s it. That means we’d have to rely on pirate scans of WD issues to get the rules for these units. GW needs to release these things as PDFs on their website if not the month of WD’s release, but at least a month or two after. And no, releasing it through their iOS-only platform would not be a solution.

As an aside, I think removing other races from the Tau would be an extremely dumb idea. One of the major central conceits of the Tau Empire is that they include a bunch of races. I’d want that aspect to be expanded, not curtailed. It only gets worse if people have to buy WD to get the rules for models they already owned (and used in the previous version). And if this involves a change of fluff, then it is just a cash-grab, with money serving as the driving force behind the fluff. And that’s awful.


In the end I expect that this will be like many things GW has done over the years – fantastic concept, terrible execution.

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From Warseer, a first and last post (I added paragraphs):
Ornithopter wrote:I was told, that GW is trying to invert their release order. Instead of two follow up waves after a Codex release they will release one or two smaller waves of models before every codex, one big release with the codex and some stragglers thereafter (mainly re-releases and model updates). This is widely known and not hard to deduce. But I was also told that this is only a test run for two upcoming releases and GW is fully prepared to switch back to the old modus operandi or a completely different release schedule.

GW has used the period of reduced LotR activity to produce new ranges far in advance. GW sits on a whole pile of army books/codexes and finished masters and has the flexibility to alter their release schedule seamlessly. The next two releases (Warriors of Chaos and Dark Angels) follow the old pattern, but the next two releases (Tau and Eldar) after these are deployed in the new fashion.

The Tau Codex was pushed back because of this, but only the book. The first batch of models will be released even earlier than planned (maybe even this year) – and yes, there are Kroots and no, there is no Lamprey – this whole set of rumours is 105% fake.

GW has tighten their information policy for all releases around the end of the year. This includes everything not just the Hobbit stuff because one major source of info are business plans and logistics tables that are shared with subsidiaries and external companies. Most unregulated sources sit at one of those joints. The blackout period lasts from October to February and ends there because it is not sustainable for a long time. There will be no wave of fliers this year outside of the blackout period (my source does not know if one is planned for this period or not, but if it is the info is definitely not avaible for regional distributors - whatever that is).

One last bit: GW has buried the plastic character stop gap and switched to multi-part finecast kits, with emphasis on “multi-part”. The sheer number of bit of these kits is on par with plastic releases. The first kit will be the re-modeled Avatar. The four Greater Demons are worked on. All of them will be larger than their predecessors and come with a lot of variety.

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One last bit: GW has buried the plastic character stop gap and switched to multi-part finecast kits, with emphasis on “multi-part”.


*sorrowful sigh*

The single-frame plastic miniatures were one of GW's greatest advances in years. Readily available high-detailed plastic character models. This was the future for character releases, and yet they've decided to not just take a step back, but turn around and sprint from that future in favour of more gakky Finecost releases with more gakky defects and a higher fething price point.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
One last bit: GW has buried the plastic character stop gap and switched to multi-part finecast kits, with emphasis on “multi-part”.


*sorrowful sigh*

The single-frame plastic miniatures were one of GW's greatest advances in years. Readily available high-detailed plastic character models. This was the future for character releases, and yet they've decided to not just take a step back, but turn around and sprint from that future in favour of more gakky Finecost releases with more gakky defects and a higher fething price point.


This. I love my plastic Dark Elf Sorceress. She goes together nicely, has a detailed base which doesn't need sand or texture paint and is a great sculpt.

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Logan wrote:to the Assault Crisis Suits

I literally said "Ew!" as soon as I read that. Why Lord? Why would you allow such awful things?


Because it - quite literally - cannot offend or hurt anybody

Have you ever seen any thread in News and Rumors? Also, I personally wouldn't like to see it simply because it removes the one specialty of the Tau, the fact that they have no connection with the warp, and no real heavy hitters in close combat. It is a complete fluff reversal to have them running into close combat with battlesuits and hacking apart terminators. Frankly I wouldn't like the idea of playing against them. I am sure that people would accept it in time, like with the newcrons, but I can't say that it is a change I would like to see. I like the idea of the Tau being a mobile shooting army supported by specialist auxiliaries, and assault suits simply goes directly against that.
   
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Thanks for more tau info.

Personally, as a person who continues to play tau (I played them all through 5th) I hope to see:

* a flyer, hopefully the barracuda and remora
* fw suits (i spent money on them...)
* tau specific emplacements (nice to have).
* more kroot options
* some sort of resilient troop options (the relic mission really highlights this gap).
* some AA love
* more options for fw squads (can I get a drone with a flamer?)
* all the other tau wish list stuff too numerous to list here.
* cool artwork and some neat fluff...

Also as a note, PLEASE those who don't like fine cast (I don't, btw) do not spam the rest of this thread with fine cast complaints...there are already hundreds of other threads about that. Thank you for your consideration.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:As an aside, I think removing other races from the Tau would be an extremely dumb idea. One of the major central conceits of the Tau Empire is that they include a bunch of races. I’d want that aspect to be expanded, not curtailed. It only gets worse if people have to buy WD to get the rules for models they already owned (and used in the previous version). And if this involves a change of fluff, then it is just a cash-grab, with money serving as the driving force behind the fluff. And that’s awful.



It's nice to know I'm not the only person that thinks that butchering the faction that thematically uses other xenos as auxiliary units for the sole purpose of opening the option up to other armies is a bad idea.

I would be incredibly enthusiastic about some new mini-merc Codexes that are available to descent selection of existing armies as an allied detachment provided they A) Aren't poached from the Tau. B) They don't reduce the possibility of Tau xenos races being expanded and C) Tau don't get shafted in the same manner they were IIRC with the WD Kroot dex. Because I may be wrong but IIRC the WD Kroot Army could be taken as allies by other armies but not by Tau which was extremely lame since the Kroot Merc list had units not in the Tau Codex.
   
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Updating OP with that tidbit from Ornithopter. Did he say the first and last thing? Not much point in adding him to the Rumor tracker if he'll never show his face again.

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Yes, he said it will be his first and last post under that account. An insider obviously that was sick of several false rumours spreading.

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I guess we'll see if he was right when Tau comes out and we all have a good laugh at Logan. Faeit probably won't be amused if he does turn out to be a fake, since he just went full bore behind him because of me. But he would have been tricked just as much as the rest of us. Only time will tell.

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I can get on board with this. A harlequin mini dex would be awesome. Maybe GW would finally make a solitaire model...and harlequin jetbikes. This mini dex for Kroot would be essentially no different than the Merc list from chapter approved from years ago. By moving Kroot to that role, you can now fill the Tau codex with a bunch of new units like flyers, hazard suits, tetras, and maybe some killer new variants on Crisis Suits. Who knows.

   
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pretre wrote:I guess we'll see if he was right when Tau comes out and we all have a good laugh at Logan. Faeit probably won't be amused if he does turn out to be a fake, since he just went full bore behind him because of me. But he would have been tricked just as much as the rest of us. Only time will tell.

Don't feel bad..a lot of folks jumped behind ghost21 when he spread all of those false Tau rumors. After that debacle, I've found it difficult to get behind any sort of rumor mongers.

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lol and Ghost21 is still pending his 'chaos rumors'.

Man, is that going to be a busy couple of days over on the accuracy thread.

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Faeit has pointed out that he isn't really trying to verify accuracy of rumors and doesn't really state that they are anything more than just a rumor.

It's an odd stance, since you think that you'd prefer to be known for truths more than guesses and speculation. Though he seems to be more for getting the rumors and musings out to those who want to hear it. In every thread that mentioned the Logan rumor there were plenty of people who just didn't want to think about the validity because they just wanted to hear something.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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Savageconvoy wrote:Faeit has pointed out that he isn't really trying to verify accuracy of rumors and doesn't really state that they are anything more than just a rumor.

Obviously, I disagree with this approach since it is how we get some of the garbage rumors that we get. Oh well, it is his stance and he is consistent. Just means that we'll get plenty of chaff with our wheat from him.

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My only problem is that he enforces a policy against nay saying.

With this rumor, it was painfully obvious the person was pulling his rumors out of his arse. Of course people called him out on it, and the posts were removed because they called him out on it.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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Yep, but it is his playground. He can make the rules.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:

Of course, the real problem with this idea is the whole White Dwarf angle. As the past couple of WD rules releases (SoB, Space Guppy) have shown, these issues tend to run out really quickly and then... they’re gone. That’s it. That means we’d have to rely on pirate scans of WD issues to get the rules for these units. GW needs to release these things as PDFs on their website if not the month of WD’s release, but at least a month or two after. And no, releasing it through their iOS-only platform would not be a solution.


You know what's sad? I have a subscription (as a present of course) and even I didn't get the SoB WD. I called customer services and was told...oops, we'll add two months to your subscription. Translation: We shipped too many to the stores, sorry for having a subscription <sucker>.

Either that or my mailman plays SoB.


 
   
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KarlPedder wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:As an aside, I think removing other races from the Tau would be an extremely dumb idea. One of the major central conceits of the Tau Empire is that they include a bunch of races. I’d want that aspect to be expanded, not curtailed. It only gets worse if people have to buy WD to get the rules for models they already owned (and used in the previous version). And if this involves a change of fluff, then it is just a cash-grab, with money serving as the driving force behind the fluff. And that’s awful.



It's nice to know I'm not the only person that thinks that butchering the faction that thematically uses other xenos as auxiliary units for the sole purpose of opening the option up to other armies is a bad idea.
I don't think only losing Kroot is necessarily "butchering" especially when you consider the standing rumor is the addition of 3 new auxiliaries. Lose 1, gain 3, net 2 gain. That would be a non-butchering scenario within the realm of possibility. Even within the Tau they're regarded as mercenaries implying exactly what the rumor says is GWs rationale, that they are an independent hierarchy and not with in the formal military chain of command. That to me justifies the allies FOC.
   
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
One last bit: GW has buried the plastic character stop gap and switched to multi-part finecast kits, with emphasis on “multi-part”.


*sorrowful sigh*

The single-frame plastic miniatures were one of GW's greatest advances in years. Readily available high-detailed plastic character models. This was the future for character releases, and yet they've decided to not just take a step back, but turn around and sprint from that future in favour of more gakky Finecost releases with more gakky defects and a higher fething price point.


Maybe those plastic characters just aren't cost-effective for GW except for few special cases which are already covered. I mean, they must be very expensive to produce and most characters probably don't sell that well. Things like Daemon Princes, yes, but probably not many others. For example, SM Commander is a great kit and all, but I don't know anyone who has one, because everyone uses Special Characters and if someone for some reason wants a regular Captain, world is awash with AOBR captains.

Of course, this is part GW's own fault, for making Special characters so awesome. I'm sure Mephiston would sell enough to warrant a plastic kit

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Backfire wrote:For example, SM Commander is a great kit and all, but I don't know anyone who has one, because everyone uses Special Characters and if someone for some reason wants a regular Captain, world is awash with AOBR captains.


Yeah I think this is more about the single clamshell plastic characters, not the multi-piece plastic kit characters.

And everyone uses the SM Commander kits because they are great sources for bits, especially combi-weapons.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
*sorrowful sigh*

Even as someone who hasn't had any Finecast problems, this makes me sad too. I loved those plastic Fantasy characters, and was really hoping we'd get some for 40k. I found it strange none had come out yet either, but still held out hope for it. Shame if that's true.

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