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A Town Called Malus wrote:
I agree with this. Rather than add CC to counter this I would prefer to see an attempt to maybe improve them through special rules, similar to IG orders.
Off the top of my head I think a rule called "Step Back" or something might work. In the assault phase after shooting the Fire Warrior team takes a leadership test. If it passes then the unit may immediately move D6" provided that their movement takes them away from the enemy they shot at.
This would allow us to maximise our Guns range as it could give us some rounds of shooting where we stay out of the enemies shooting range. As it is now our Fire Warriors shoot at max range (30") at a Space Marine squad and kill maybe a couple. In their turn the Space Marines move forwards 6" and can shoot us, so our extra 6" range doesn't really mean much.
I've rather felt that Fire Warriors would be better as skirmish infantry than line infantry. Engaging only at extreme range and withdrawing when the enemy comes closer. It makes a lot more sense for them to act that way then to be like a rank of IG grunts.
Even as someone who hasn't had any Finecast problems, this makes me sad too. I loved those plastic Fantasy characters, and was really hoping we'd get some for 40k. I found it strange none had come out yet either, but still held out hope for it. Shame if that's true.
Yeah, I have to agree as well. I haven't had any major Finecast products, and so far, it has made possible conversions that otherwise would have been near impossible with metal. I've been a frequent FW customer for many years, so I really don't view it as much a different product, as the flaws I feel are just flaws inherent with resin. That said, I think this would be possibly the worst move GW has made in years, as it reverse one of the best moves they've made in years by releasing many single frame characters in plastic. I don't even play WFB and I've bought a near half dozen of the characters for 40k conversions. I love them, and will continue buying them as long as they are released, even if just for Fantasy. It would be a damn shame to lose these kits in the future. Perhaps 40k will get these finecast character kits and fantasy will keep getting the plastic ones? That would at least make some sense as 40k models need more weapon options that aren't practical for a single sprue plastic.
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There has been some speculation on this, and I'm getting chatter now that seems to reinforce a few things, so I thought I'd post what is floating my way.
Tau Codex early next year.
Kroot and other existing allies are there, however they are limited. There appears to be an "Allies" supplement which will be out about the same time and include many more options. (aside: Dare I start a Spring of Allies moniker...ah well then it will end up being 2 years from now... )
Crisis suits completely redone.
Stealth suits completely redone.
Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit.
New Pathfinders were seen being worked on a while back.
Ethereals expanded, new unit options around them.
There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. (My take is this might actually be a new plastic kit taking over a FW model, and before anyone yells GW doesnt cannibalize FW...yes, they do, they have, and they will.)
The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model.
New fast skimmer sized between hammerhead and pirahna.
Flyer has dual gattling cannons
Flyer has option for rail guns
Flyer has bombs (not missiles!?)
Rule rumors (these are rumors people! I hate posting rule rumors cause I am not involved in that. Please take fwiw)
Railguns have a JOWW effect, they can hit multiple models in a line, but if hitting vehicles has a max number of hull points it can cause. the way this is described is it draws a line from the barrel to table edge, every model under starts taking hits starting with the closest. if it hits a vehicle or structure with HP, its strength drops, once it hits 3 or a table edge or fails to make a penetrating hit its done. rhino line's watch out!
There is some rumor of an Anti Psyker weapon. like night fighting, but no psychic powers for a game turn.
There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options
The jetpack troops have some option to "pop up and shoot" from behind cover.
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Kroothawk wrote:Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit.
There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. (My take is this might actually be a new plastic kit taking over a FW model, and before anyone yells GW doesnt cannibalize FW...yes, they do, they have, and they will.)
These two make me wonder if GW has found a way to make a multi-part kit that produces both Pirhannas and Tetras. I always like the idea of Tetras, though I never played one. I thought it conceptually suited the Tau doctrine of combined arms- something like a scout jetbike with markerlights to mark a high-value target for Skyray artillery and then get the hell out of dodge before the enemy can muster a retaliation. I thought it was a bit overly tactical for the 40K table but I really, really wanted to get into Epic 40K Tau basically because of them. And the Manta.
Although now that I think about it, with the new emphasis on buying terrain to help your army, drone turrets would also be a logical choice, and the Pirhanna kit would just be to make the TX-42.
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There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. (My take is this might actually be a new plastic kit taking over a FW model, and before anyone yells GW doesnt cannibalize FW...yes, they do, they have, and they will.)
Am hoping for XV-9 Hazard Suit, will settle for Tetra. Tetra's are pretty phenomenal, and I would honestly get a lot more use out of them, but the Hazards are just so damn cool.
2012/08/02 01:29:56
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
Milisim wrote:Thank God for the Railgun news! We can now blast through all those pesky AV vehicles... Oh hang on.. A lot of people are on foot now thanks to 6E =]
Ah was a nice gesture anyways =]
So line up three terminators and hit all of them with a S10 AP1 line shot. 83
Tau Codex early next year.
Kroot and other existing allies are there, however they are limited. There appears to be an "Allies" supplement which will be out about the same time and include many more options. (aside: Dare I start a Spring of Allies moniker...ah well then it will end up being 2 years from now... )
If true then...Yay for a new codex, may our hopes for expanded backstory that maintans continuity come true.
Am fine with the limited access to Kroot and Vespids, especially if there is later a mercenaries supplement that allows for the Rag-Tag Farsight Merc. force mentioned in the Fluff.
Interesting, wonder if this means completely new suits or just new weapon sprues on the old xv-8 chasis.
Kinda have mixed feelings here. On one hand, hope that the changes don't invalidate my FW xv-8 upgrades and that all I have to do is swap weapons. On the other hand, I hope to see sleeker FW style suits in plastic.
Personaly hope that the new Crisis suits are really larger Broadsides and that the Stealth suits get Plasma Rifles and reworked CIB.
Though, Got a feeling that the Stealthsuits will end up getting rail rifles or some type of sniper equivolent.
Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit.
Am hoping that if such is true that we will see just an increase in weapons options. Plasma or Rail Rifles for the nose turret....maybe twin-linking.
At most, Maybe a TX-42 kit that makes it also close topped.
Ethereals expanded, new unit options around them.
About time, Hope that Ethereals are outside of the FoC this time.
There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. (My take is this might actually be a new plastic kit taking over a FW model, and before anyone yells GW doesnt cannibalize FW...yes, they do, they have, and they will.)
Personally, Hope it is the Remoras with improved markerlight and better Burst cannon rules.
The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model.
Why?
New fast skimmer sized between hammerhead and pirahna.
Wonder if it will be open topped(?). Would be very interesting to have a Fast open-topped transport skimmer when you think about the Jetpacks now being able to be transported.
Flyer has dual gattling cannons
Flyer has option for rail guns
Flyer has bombs (not missiles!?)
A)If dual burst cannons? *meh* ................If dual Heavy or Long-barreled Burst Cannons? Hell yeah!!
B)Rail Guns, that would be very nice. If it is an option then the Flyer will come equipped with Ion Cannon.
c)Bombs??? Sounds a little unfluffy(Unless they are Smart Bombs ). Seems like a clumsy attempt to distinguish it from the Barracuda or Tiger Shark.
Hope the new flyer is the size of the Barracuda or a little smaller.
Railguns have a JOWW effect, they can hit multiple models in a line, but if hitting vehicles has a max number of hull points it can cause. the way this is described is it draws a line from the barrel to table edge, every model under starts taking hits starting with the closest. if it hits a vehicle or structure with HP, its strength drops, once it hits 3 or a table edge or fails to make a penetrating hit its done. rhino line's watch out!
*Meh* Not a fan of the JOWW effect. Sounds like it will be a rules nightmare and will bog the game down with arguments of what gets a coversave.
I will admit that this version of the line effect rumor is much better than previous ones. Still wish that they would just up the RoF on Hammerhead Railguns or have them do an extra point of hull damage for every point that the shot penetrates by(Roll a 4 against AV12 and the vehicle loses 2 HPs and suffer the damage rolled on the vehicle damage table..
There is some rumor of an Anti Psyker weapon. like night fighting, but no psychic powers for a game turn.
If true, This would end a lot of arguing about the Tau's role in the 40K universe.
There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options
The jetpack troops have some option to "pop up and shoot" from behind cover.
Mixed feelings about this rumor. Transported troops will die if the Flyers gets shot out from under them and the Tau want to minimize unnecessary casualties. Yet it would be nice to deploy Jet-pack Infantry (troops) from a fast moving Flyer/Skimmer. The mobility would be amazing.
Jetpack "Troops" WOOHOO!!, Heres hoping for my beloved xv-15s to become a troop unit.
All in all, I like the sound of most of these rumors.
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2012/08/02 07:59:04
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
I would think the best way to utilize the Ethereals would be to play up the "coalition of all castes" angle. Have the ethereal's presence on the battlefield mark a greater degree of involvement from the Earth(better drones), Air(More fliers) and Water(more auxillaries) castes.
Have no clue why they'd want to redo the space pope model. It's not like it was the model itself that made people avoid it like the plague.
My guess is the FW model would be the XV9.
2012/08/02 08:15:22
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
Even if they look the same, redoing the stealth suits could just mean that they are remaking the spru so that it has more weapons. Everyone wants there stealth suits to have better guns!
The Stealthsuits are probably going to get a points reduction if the stats and special rules stay as they are.
There was a points premium on that 2d6 x 3 spotting distance.
Expect for them to drop to about 25 points each if they come with the Burst Cannon and then the cost of weapon upgrades will reflect the cost of the BC.
(Plasma rifle for about 10 points and Fusion Blaster & Miss pods for 2-5 points)
Really don't see them getting standard Crisis weapons, rather, things like some form of sniper weapon and markerlights.
Man.....4 stealthsuits w/Plasma rifles coming in at around 35 points each or a team of 3 plasstealths for 105 points would be all kinds of awesome.
2012/08/02 12:03:23
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
In short, everything that they make to the stealth suits, making them less costy, like from 30 to 20 since they are not much better than our regular troops, gettin equipped the same way crisis suits do, and with more options for weapons would be awesome, the Stealth suits getting redone is really good news, i just hate the XV25 model, too much of a bulky guy for a stealth suit, the XV15 are just perfect in every way, maybe XV-22 coming out of the test runs?.And if they change them from Elite to Fast Attack, or Troops with O`Shasherra as HQ (Wich would be the most common thing to do if they do), then i will really have to think about landing more of them each game, since that would make of them a viable choice, the Crisis Suits are just too much of a core for Tau amys.
And please oh gods of GW make the Pathfinders so that they DONT need to take that damm Devilfish. With this im more than happy.
Now bets for the FW model, it could be the TX-42 (Love the piranha, hate the rules), the XV-9, but i just cant see it comming into the Codex that would be just too good, and the Flyer is not a Remora for sure too thiny, they may be doing the Barracuda, since it appeared in the Dawn of War game and its actually pretty nice for everything.
Im also thinking that they might bring the Sentry Drones, and Sensor Towers (Similar things, not equal) to improve the number of FoC choices, in the Tau Codex we jsut got a couple of them for each chart, Vespid, Gundrones (Genius FA choice), and Sniper teams, especially this guys, who are completely out of the game, too much points, and HS choice, so yeah, im goin to pick up 3 antiMEQ shots, when i can pick a twin linked Railgun about the same cost, they are just too bad actually to be considered a real viable option.
They have so much things to improve in the next codex... I hope they actually do half and it will be more than fine.
Stickmonkey wrote:
The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model.
Why?
Yeah. This. Why indeed? It wasn't his MODEL that made people not take him. Let's make his rules not suck and try again.
Captain Avatar wrote:The Stealthsuits are probably going to get a points reduction if the stats and special rules stay as they are.
There was a points premium on that 2d6 x 3 spotting distance.
Expect for them to drop to about 25 points each if they come with the Burst Cannon and then the cost of weapon upgrades will reflect the cost of the BC.
(Plasma rifle for about 10 points and Fusion Blaster & Miss pods for 2-5 points)
Really don't see them getting standard Crisis weapons, rather, things like some form of sniper weapon and markerlights.
Yeah, I've heard alot of people much happier with a 2-4+ cover than with the spotting distance. I preferred the spotting distance and thought the price... appropriate. Ish. Maybe shave off 2-5 pts, but not terrible. Now if they're going to be running around with just the stealth fields, I'd say 25 points is too much. 20pts might be about right, but 22pts puts them in line with most t3 jetpacks/bikes.
Therion wrote:
6th edition lands on June 23rd!
Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
2012/08/02 13:51:21
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
Tau Rumors - August 2012 Tau Codex early next year. PENDING Kroot and other existing allies are there, however they are limited. PENDING There appears to be an "Allies" supplement which will be out about the same time and include many more options. PENDING Crisis suits completely redone. PENDING Stealth suits completely redone. PENDING Pirahna has new option and I am not sure if it will be reboxed together or be sold as an upgrade kit. PENDING New Pathfinders were seen being worked on a while back. PENDING Ethereals expanded, new unit options around them. PENDING There is a FW Tau model which has a unit entry in the codex. PENDING The floating chair ethereal was seen being worked on for a new model. PENDING New fast skimmer sized between hammerhead and pirahna. PENDING Flyer has dual gattling cannons PENDING Flyer has option for rail guns PENDING Flyer has bombs (not missiles!?) PENDING
Railguns have a JOWW effect, they can hit multiple models in a line, but if hitting vehicles has a max number of hull points it can cause. the way this is described is it draws a line from the barrel to table edge, every model under starts taking hits starting with the closest. if it hits a vehicle or structure with HP, its strength drops, once it hits 3 or a table edge or fails to make a penetrating hit its done. rhino line's watch out! PENDING There is some rumor of an Anti Psyker weapon. like night fighting, but no psychic powers for a game turn. PENDING There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options PENDING The jetpack troops have some option to "pop up and shoot" from behind cover. PENDING
Digital Releases - August 2012 August: Should be up Saturday (8/1/2012) PENDING Codex: Daemons (obvious) PENDING How to Paint Chaos Daemons PENDING Daemons Tactica PENDING WFB Temple of Skulls scenario PENDING WFB Soul Grinder PENDING
September releases: 6th Ed 40k digital rulebook (will go up same weekend as starter set released) PENDING How to Paint (I am not certain but this may be the same as the flip book that was released earlier this year with the paint set.) PENDING And a few more WFB PENDING
October releases: Codex: CSM (going up same weekend as codex released) PENDING How to paint: CSMPENDING Tactica: CSMPENDING And a few more WFB PENDING
November Releases: Codex: Grey Knights PENDING HtP: GKPENDING Tactica: GKPENDING And a few more WFB PENDING
December Releases: Codex: Sisters of Battle PENDING HtP: SoBPENDING Tactica: SoBPENDING And a few more WFB PENDING
Starter Set - August 2012 October Chaos Space Marines PENDING WoC will drop in Oct or Nov PENDING
Chaos Legions Codex - July 2012 May Chaos Codex FALSE New Plastics PENDING Chaos Dread PENDING Plastic Raptors PENDING Plastic PlagueBearers PENDING New Character Sculpts PENDING Traitor Guard PENDING
4 Legions represented: EC, DG, WE, TS Starter DA Tacs in Starter are not AOBR, but new sculpts with DA icons PENDING Sgt with Combi and Power Sword, 7 Bolter Marines, 1 Meltagun, 1 Plasma Cannon PENDING Release Schedule Rumors - June 2012 Rumored Daemon wave: Plague bearers (5x box) Plastic. Priced as pink horrors FALSE Furies (5x box) plastic. Priced as de scourges FALSE Blue scribes (finecast) TRUE Herald of nurgle (finecast) TRUE Plastic GDs are done, rumored to have pieces to build named GD as variants ( though not expected til 2013) PENDING
Rumored flyer wave: De bomber PENDING Eldar fighter PENDING Tau fighter PENDING
Rumored box set contents: Marines and Chaos PENDING Chaos Space Marines next codex PENDING
Rumored July release: 6th Ed hard back, 6th Ed special edition, Limited templates, game aids, and what not for 6th edition... TRUEWRONG DATE
(On Deffcoptas) They are a little bulkier, but not that much bigger. A few pilot options, and some (I think 2) grot hangers on. And some other flavor bits. Like all ork kits you can go to town with making it unique. It's 1 full sprue per Kotpa. To do 3 per box would mean the rhino size box. PENDING Ork Wave Ork Wave by Spring 2013 PENDING Ork buggy/half track Dakka/skorcha/rokket plastic (3x box) priced like Necron wraiths PENDING Deffcopters all options plastic (3x box) priced like Terminators PENDING Meganobs all options plastic (5x box) priced like terminators PENDING Flashgits upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING Cybork upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING
Daemons - March 2012 Plastic Furies FALSE Plastic Plaguebearers TRUE Karanak and hounds to finecast TRUE
Flyers - June 2012 Before end of August 2012 FALSE Eldar dual kit. Fighter, bomber/heavy, transport. Heavy attack and transport share design PENDING Tau fighter/gunship, size of stormtalon. new missiles options involving markerlights PENDING Tau transport in codex PENDING Dark eldar bomber in August FALSE Third Necron Flyer in 2013-ish PENDING
Eldar Rumors - May 2012 'Early Rumors': All aspects can be troops (may be only one unit), but not through Phoenix Lords. PENDING Point reduction on Guardians. PENDING Tanks (NightS, FP, Falc) have point reduction PENDING Transports the same PENDING Storms are an upgrade to normal guardians PENDING Wraith units move towards guide if out of range. Guides give buffs. PENDING Possible new aspects and wraithguard PENDING Shields for WS will work differently PENDING Phoenix lord table wide buffs for their aspect PENDING
DA Tidbits - Feb 2012 'Wolfguard' chaplains PENDING Plasma Sponsons and Plasma Tanks PENDING DA in Starter Kit PENDING
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421948.page#3767725]Tyranid 2nd Wave Jan 2012 Tyrannofex plastic with options to build as Tervigon, TRUE Tyrannofex not dual with Tervigon (different posts) FALSE Plastic Tyrant with SL bits, TRUE Tyranid direct only lashwhip bonesword upgrade blister for warriors TRUE Doom blister, Parasite, "yrmgarll?" direct only genestealer blister...like flashgit model, one pose, direct only. Harpy, PENDINGWRONG DATE thunderbolt fighter in design for plastic PENDING
Schedule for Releases from Dec 2011 Dec 2011 2012 Q1/2 - tau (or flipped w BT) FALSE 2012 Q2/3 - BT ( possible WD codex) PENDING 2012 Q3 - 6 Ed FALSE 2012 Q3/4 - eldar PENDING
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2012/08/02 16:19:30
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
"There is no flyer dedicated transport, and the existing flyer is going to be competing against some very good other options"
Im getting a feeling that he isnt talking about the fast attack slot =( wish we had more options for that. but if it has rail guns then i could see it being more acceptable
StraightSilver wrote:I have been staying out of the rumours threads for a while now, mainly because a lot of the information I was getting was plain wrong, and also because I was conscious of dropping anybody in it, but I thought I would chip in on this.
The Tau models have apparently been sitting around for quite some time now, some of them were redone over 2 years ago so I am not sure why they have taken so long to be released, but I suspect it's because the models range fits into 6th better than 5th.
They were one of the first armies to get a flyer (outside of IG's Valk / Vendetta), even though it hasn't been released yet.
As for an allies supplement, I was told that next year 40K will have a release very similar in format to the Warhammer Fantasy Storm of Magic supplement. In other words a book, cards and kits that could be used in multiple armies, in the same vein as the monsters from WHFB.
I assumed it would be a big supplement for Psykers, but it could just as well be for allies, as that seems to be the best way for GW to produce new kits without having to invest in a full 'Dex for them.
Now I hate to put Summer into any rumours, but I believe Storm of Magic was released about that time, which would put Tau and allies around June or July ish? However rumours strongly point to Eldar being early in the year, so I'm not sure if we would get 2 Xenos Codexes back to back? Unless GW really are going to do a release every month.
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2012/08/03 14:17:22
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
I personally am hoping for XV-9 suits to be released in plastic along with the codex whenever it comes out. If Kroot are to be taken in limited numbers now (0-1 even perhaps?) then an assault suit like the hazard config will be a huge blessing. Tack on the fact that my favorite guns they carry are s5 ap5 large blast, and they pack 2 of them each, that's some serious anti infantry firepower. T5 with 2 wounds as well....
I love XV 9 hazard suits, so that's my wishlist for the next codex.
Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it.
2012/08/03 14:22:58
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
Personally, as a person who continues to play tau (I played them all through 5th) I hope to see:
* a flyer, hopefully the barracuda and remora
I'm sorry but it has to be said, those FW flyers are awful. I hope those things never grace the new Tau Codex. It's a lot of damn points for a couple burst cannons and missile pods, you can take crisis suits that do the same for about 1/5 the point cost. Even with Long-Barreled Burst Cannons they would still be stupidly overpriced. Remoras are on the same wagon imo. The only thing worth taking from FW is the XV9 commander and Tetras.
focusedfire wrote:
Mixed feelings about this rumor. Transported troops will die if the Flyers gets shot out from under them and the Tau want to minimize unnecessary casualties. Yet it would be nice to deploy Jet-pack Infantry (troops) from a fast moving Flyer/Skimmer. The mobility would be amazing.
History has always proven that troops are far safer outside an armored transp-- oh wait. According to the fluff the Devilfish can fly and is capable of orbital entry to bring firewarriors to the frontline. So I see no reason a tau flying transport would be unfluffy.
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focusedfire wrote: Mixed feelings about this rumor. Transported troops will die if the Flyers gets shot out from under them and the Tau want to minimize unnecessary casualties. Yet it would be nice to deploy Jet-pack Infantry (troops) from a fast moving Flyer/Skimmer. The mobility would be amazing.
History has always proven that troops are far safer outside an armored transp-- oh wait. According to the fluff the Devilfish can fly and is capable of orbital entry to bring firewarriors to the frontline. So I see no reason a tau flying transport would be unfluffy.
And Devilfish (hell, all of our vehicles except the Piranha) should be able to Deep Strike.
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I'm sorry but it has to be said, those FW flyers are awful. I hope those things never grace the new Tau Codex. It's a lot of damn points for a couple burst cannons and missile pods, you can take crisis suits that do the same for about 1/5 the point cost. Even with Long-Barreled Burst Cannons they would still be stupidly overpriced. Remoras are on the same wagon imo. The only thing worth taking from FW is the XV9 commander and Tetras.
IA: Aeronautica slashed the price on the Barracuda almost in half. It's now respectable with all that strength 7 shooting.
2012/08/06 21:22:15
Subject: Tau Rumors - Updated to include Stickmonkey rumors on 8/1/2012
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
Also, it looks cool, and as far as I'm concerned that's the main criteria a unit needs to meet.
As for big multi part Finecast models...Oh dear. Heck, I am the most ardent supporter of Finecast and even I think this is a recipe for disaster. More parts means more things that can go wrong. And plastic is better suited to bigger monsters.
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). Seems like a clumsy attempt to distinguish it from the Barracuda or Tiger Shark.
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