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2013/03/26 06:57:20
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote:I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Whatever, man. I'm just happy that my friend's gonna be able to use his Tau against my Necrons again. Even using 'soft' Necron lists, his army still seemed borderline unplayable.
As far as I'm concerned, the Tau could be given terrible sculpts across the board; it's their rules that needed an update. This is one situation where I feel GW can [almost] do no wrong.
2013/03/26 06:58:05
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
It's not over-sized, it's strength 5!
...probably.
2013/03/26 07:01:12
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
GW: "We do no demographic research, we have no focus groups, we do not ask the market what it wants"
2013/03/26 07:03:23
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
Quite a bit, actually.
2013/03/26 07:04:46
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
Quite a bit, actually.
No, not really dude.
GW: "We do no demographic research, we have no focus groups, we do not ask the market what it wants"
2013/03/26 07:04:48
Subject: Re:New Tau Codex - March 30 [New Pics on p 62]
I find it odd the number of people speculating "Oooh! 'Our Conquest is Inevitable', does this mean the Tau are becoming darker???"
This is always the way that I pictured Tau. I never saw them as naive.
They've been pounded by the Imperium, including SMs and fought to a standstill.
They've been pounded by Tyranids, and managed to do what the Ultramarines could not.
They have Chaos attacking them from the Perdus Rift Anomaly, which is like their very own Eye of Terror.
They learned the hard way to shoot first when dealing with Necrons and DE.
Their military caste is naturally aggressive and they begin training at an early age.
I'm going to quote my own P&M blog: (Which needs to be reorganized a bit.)
This is the Caste of "diplomacy has failed and you are of no further use to us."
The Caste of the "Give-Us-All-Your-Weapons-Or-We'll-Blow-Your-Freakin'-Heads-Off" peace treaty.
This is why I'm trying to make my Tau look more aggressive and a little badass.
I'm only surprised as I never saw them as Grim Dark. I always thought of them as kind of like the Dominion from Star Trek but with a little less violence and war like tendencies and a bit diplomacy. Now they have gone full on Dominion which to me is awesome.
As for painting, I'm going for a little bit of a tribute to Hyperion from Borderlands 2. Their lore in game is incredibly dark and that's how I want to follow it, with a yellow, black and white army with a leader hellbent on Conquest who will do anything to achieve it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and back on the subject of the flyers...
It looks worse without the struts imo.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
2013/03/26 07:23:28
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
Quite a bit, actually.
No, not really dude.
Well, no, of course not, so long as you ignore that comically oversized square chunk that I can only assume is the gun's barrel. GW guns may be ridiculously oversized, but this is taking it even further.
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Captain Avatar wrote: Is it me or do the Cadre Fireblade & Broaside models look like they were influenced by AT-43 Karmans. I guess GW wasn't happy with the current level of confusion about the Tau being goat-fish. Now they seem to be going for goat-fish in ape armour.
Behold, The Fire Caste commander pictured in the new ape armour
& The Broadside in the mighty gorilla armour
I guess the design studio must have confused Guerrilla Warfare with Gorilla Warfare.
Yes, I know the Broadside is kneeling which gives it an apish feel, but the small head on the tiny body and the supermassive arms also contribute to the look.
The Fireblade model is striding low which amplifies the chimp effect but, imo, even standing the armour would create a long torso short leg appearance.
I think I might actually pick a broadside up and convert him into my Shas'o. Especially if I can equip him for some decent combat potential in this new codex. The mighty Shas'hulk will be created.
Inquisitor Jex wrote: Yeah, telling people how this and that is 'garbage' and they should just throw their minis into the trash as they're not as efficient as XYZ.
Peregrine wrote: So the solution is to lie and pretend that certain options are effective so people will feel better?
2013/03/26 08:01:59
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
Quite a bit, actually.
No, not really dude.
Well, no, of course not, so long as you ignore that comically oversized square chunk that I can only assume is the gun's barrel. GW guns may be ridiculously oversized, but this is taking it even further.
That's either the photon grenade launcher or the markerlight. The barrels of tau pulse weapons are the tiny cylinders sticking out near the top.
Tau tend to build their weapons with heavy shrouding for whatever reason.
2013/03/26 08:13:10
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Well each Pulse Weapon is a type of plasma. The extra shrouding or cowling could be to protect the firer from excess heat build up.
Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
2013/03/26 08:28:44
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Crimson wrote: People keep complaining about the Crisis suits not redone to look more like the FW suits. Yes, I'd have liked that too, but from business perspective it makes sense to not do it. It would kill the sales of FW suits. It is the same reason why they got new flyers instead of plastic Barracuda.
Or, it'd encourage every Tau player -old and new- to "upgrade" their 'Suit force with nice shiny, new, plastics. Especially since the "new" ones would look so much better...
That's what happened with me when they released the new Necrons and Dark Eldar. All my old stuff went away and I spent much money on the new stuff.
2013/03/26 10:02:15
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
The question i ask myself now, Is it the time to recollect tau.
the last 3 times didn't end so well might have to wait to see new models (tau titan-uber suit looks nice)
and Kroothawk/collegues in rumour mill: i take your rumours with a grain of salt
that has been oxidised in the sun too long ..in other words i don't think the majority of the rumours that come this way from Faeit are rumour,
i am starting to believe they might be something more, as alot since 2011 they have been too chillingly accurate to be rumour- then again my thoughts only.......
for all i know you work @ warhammer world or on the dev/sculpting side....one thing i am glad to have them instead of the lets hide everything that GW has fostered recently
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2013/03/26 10:06:39
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Imho the Fireblade would look ok with a headswap and a grenade arm instead of the honour blade. I will probably get one if the head is not that hard to replace.
Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too!
2013/03/26 10:21:09
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Fafnir wrote: I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.
Yes because that gun in his arms looks so much bigger than an average boltgun
Quite a bit, actually.
No, not really dude.
Well, no, of course not, so long as you ignore that comically oversized square chunk that I can only assume is the gun's barrel. GW guns may be ridiculously oversized, but this is taking it even further.
That's either the photon grenade launcher or the markerlight. The barrels of tau pulse weapons are the tiny cylinders sticking out near the top.
Tau tend to build their weapons with heavy shrouding for whatever reason.
I have been playing force on force, infinity and flames of war so I am used to different sizes of guns. Let me tell you that there is no problem with the size of this gun, it is not meant to be a realistic universe like force on force. If you have a problem with gun sizes go play infinity, the guns are somewhat reasonably sized and if you have a problem with static posing go play some war machine [cause the models are not homogenous at all... ]
Crimson wrote: People keep complaining about the Crisis suits not redone to look more like the FW suits. Yes, I'd have liked that too, but from business perspective it makes sense to not do it. It would kill the sales of FW suits.
Read again the first comments when the first pics leaked: Half the comments were like this:
"Thank God I don't have to buy 15 new Crisis Suits".
A classic botch from the business perspective.
I can only hope than the Finecast generic commander suit can also be build as a generic crisis suit. But then again I am happy with all my FW Crisis Suits and Broadsides.
paulson games wrote: If you want to put a bit of work into converting you can make due with robed dark angel legs and a lot of cutting to get hakama style pants.
Or if you have some Infinty Yu Jing troops or Musashi, a jewerly saw and dremmel tool you can pieces together other Hakama style pants.
Personally I think the Tau have enough of a hi tech samurai look to them already, but I do really like these conversions, especially the first fire warrior and ethereal!
Good use of the drone top as a samurai hat as well.
Chaos Space Marines - Iron Warriors & Night Lords 7900pts
2013/03/26 11:06:36
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
There is something wrong with this thread. People seem to be in general agreement that GW have done a good thing. It seems...unnatural
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2013/03/26 11:08:05
Subject: Re:New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
I cant wait,.. bought 4 battlesuits and 2 squads of fire warriors a while back,.. But tau seemed unplayable at the time... But these new models look well ,.. daaaaaayumn!
Hope the codex will be awesome,.. though im dreading the prices already since GW seems to up their prices like crazy since 6th ... Dark Angels are near unpayable for what you get for your money...
6K 6K 6K 4K
2013/03/26 11:24:32
Subject: Re:New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
Well without me being a tau player and probably never will I can say that IMHOGW missed a chance to make a lot of money... (yes I said that). People that are overexcited about Tau are people that are fond of the mecha style army. The core of this army would certainly be the crysis suit, so if what we see holds true then not releasing a new model is denying yourself a whole lot of money players would spend to buy the new ones. Well other than that flyer looks mehhh and the giant suit could use a bigger head.
Got milk?
All I can say about painting is that VMC tastes much better than VMA... especially black...
PM me if you are interested in Commission work.
2013/03/26 11:55:18
Subject: New Tau Codex - April 6'th [New Pics on p 62]
I'm just happy they don't seem to have pulled a Nids and introduced a new model and made the old one so over costed that everyone had to get Trygons to replace their Carnifexs.
Also just be grateful they had mercy and didn't make the Remora Drone our flier