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Poor Tau heroes don't seem to get shoes. For the greater good?

 AndrewC wrote:
So the broadside has skyfire and a double barrelled rifle. Why do I see someone painting it wearing Harris tweed, a kroot hound at its' feet and a Holland & Holland mark on the Railguns?

Cheers

Andrew

I could totally see it, with a box of drones at its feet, yelling, "Pull!"

"Rather fine shooting today, chap. What what!"

Valete,

JohnS

 Harriticus wrote:
Poor Tau heroes don't seem to get shoes. For the greater good?

I've always painted mine without shoes.

I think the thing that most annoys me about the Fireblade is that all those symbols are Tau sept molded right into the plastic. I'd much rather have the option to decal them with Sa'cea.

Iirc the fluff states that the T'au sept symbol is also the universal Sept symbol for the empire and is equally interchangeable with the actual sept symbol.

In regards to the unusual nature of the tail of the new flier, it seems to be inspired by the rear end of the RQ7 series of drones.



The inverted V of the elerudders, the tail booms extending out, it bears quite a bit of resemblance to drone aircraft. It could also be inspired by the MQ9 series.



As a side note, 2187 was my favorite AV, and she'll be missed.

Thinking about converting devilfish into vtol and making that the bomber or fighter.

Puscifer wrote:
I still can't get over the whole "Our Conquest Is Inevitable" bit.

That is much darker than the earlier Tau stuff from previous editions where it was all about peace and integration into the Greater Good.

This is more like The Reapers from Mass Effect or The Borg from ST:TNG and their mantras.

I like this very much.

Could the Tau have finally joined the Grim Dark?

They're more dominion than borg.

 Shandara wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Adam LongWalker wrote:
I could care less about the new models.

How much less?

Not this thread too!

If you think I am going to pay lots of money for a set of models that the codex rule set is mediocre, I will give my 300 dollars to a better cause. To the developmentally disabled clients that I deal with. That is where my 300 dollars went to this month. To lease gardening plots for a year for them to learn on how to work with their hands.

Ya want to buy models blindly and play a game? Go right ahead.

 Adam LongWalker wrote:

 Shandara wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Adam LongWalker wrote:
I could care less about the new models.

How much less?

Not this thread too!

If you think I am going to pay lots of money for a set of models that the codex rule set is mediocre, I will give my 300 dollars to a better cause. To the developmentally disabled clients that I deal with. That is where my 300 dollars went to this month. To lease gardening plots for a year for them to learn on how to work with their hands.

Ya want to buy models blindly and play a game? Go right ahead.

They were responding to your misuse of that saying.

The actual saying is 'Couldn't care less', because it implies you don't care at all - you can't possibly care less.

'Could care less' implies you do care, because you can care less.

 -Loki- wrote:

They were responding to your misuse of that saying.

The actual saying is 'Couldn't care less', because it implies you don't care at all - you can't possibly care less.

'Could care less' implies you do care, because you can care less.

Dont worry about cost guys, just do like me an proxy! Here's my new Riptide!

I really like the models, not so hot on the color scheme though. So much yellow. I would have thougth they would have gone with a contrasting color on some of the smaller bits to make the model pop a bit more. That gold just kinda blends in and makes it a big yellow blob, speaking mainly on the pick of the broadside.

So far I'm liking all the models. Looking really solid. Even the flyers, though hung up on struts or no struts. Though I have a thought on the actual use of the struts. Based on my knowledge
of Tau tactics, smaller units such as XV8s or Hammerheads don't stray far from their Manta or Orca dropships. Hence HH not being high speed skimmers such as Eldars, I wouldn't
expect this to change with in atmosphere flyers. Barracudas are space faring craft and can operate more independently. For the Sunshark, it would would need to be launched from a
dropship like the HH does.

The rails to me seem like they are for docking. Similar to how TIE fighters dock. By hanging on the rails.

davou wrote:
Dont worry about cost guys, just do like me an proxy! Here's my new Riptide!

I'm just going to grab some commissars and use them to proxy for Fire Blades.

Practically identical models anyways.


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 DexKivuli wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

They were responding to your misuse of that saying.

The actual saying is 'Couldn't care less', because it implies you don't care at all - you can't possibly care less.

'Could care less' implies you do care, because you can care less.

I always assumed "hold down the fort" meant you were in charge, and other people would try and rise up and take over the fort if given the chance.

 Fafnir wrote:
Kind of like how GW never made a plastic Trygon, because it would have killed FW Trygon sales.

Exactly.

The reason why there are no 'new' Crisis suits is because making plastic models is expensive. A re-cut sprue with all the weapons and commander/drone parts will do for the next couple of editions.

Another 12 or so years of fridges on stilts! Lovely.

Impressions and opinions aside, just the appearance of these new pictures is really exciting. I keep mulling over how good their new fluff might be.

I'm remembering how excited I was when DE were about to get their new codex. Their new fluff was everything I wanted and more.

Here's to hoping Tau get the same...

 Fafnir wrote:
Another 12 or so years of fridges on stilts! Lovely.

You think you've got it bad? The poor Space Marines and their poor Dreadnoughts don't even have stilts! When I was your age, we just had washing machines with claws mounted on the sides and we were thankful!

It is somewhat disappointing that there is no new crisis suit. If they hadn't done anything with them, it would point to a possible 2nd wave of recut older models, but since they've repackaged them, advertising it as a "new" product, it is likely they'll remain unchanged until the molds wear out.

Seeing as we're still using the late 90s tactical marine kit (oh dear god the mold lines), who knows how long the fridges'll stick around.

And Hammerhead/Skyray get an official combined box, 6€ more expensive of course: 45 €

LOL wow, the Skyray has ALWAYS been a dual kit but now they finally make it official and of course new box art makes it cost more!

Gotta love GW.

Is it me or do the Cadre Fireblade & Broaside models look like they were influenced by AT-43 Karmans. I guess GW wasn't happy with the current level of confusion about the Tau being goat-fish. Now they seem to be going for goat-fish in ape armour.


Behold, The Fire Caste commander pictured in the new ape armour


& The Broadside in the mighty gorilla armour



I guess the design studio must have confused Guerrilla Warfare with Gorilla Warfare.


Yes, I know the Broadside is kneeling which gives it an apish feel, but the small head on the tiny body and the supermassive arms also contribute to the look.

The Fireblade model is striding low which amplifies the chimp effect but, imo, even standing the armour would create a long torso short leg appearance.

With all this talk of why GW can't remake the XV-8s, keep in mind this is the same GW that produced a metal (or was it Finecast?) Bloodcrusher of Khorne model what, a year before producing a plastic kit?

What GW assigns its resources to is a calculated risk based on what the penny-pinchers in corporate think will sell. They have clearly decided that we players will continue to buy GW products if they give us a bunch of silly new shineys rather than fixing a plastic kit that was frankly on the edge of acceptable design way back when they first made it, and has only gone down-hill since. The only way to change their mind is to not buy the new shineys.

Which is what I'll be not doing.

And what if they did re-do the XV-8, the fire warriors, devilfish/hammerhead, gundrones, and since that would likely take a large chunk out of the alloted resources that have been allocated for the Tau project, we may get 1 or 2 new models or units.

If the new codex does not remake the wheel with the XV-8 and such, just have new rules/statlines, with maybe a few options (that may or may not even need to be modeled), I am perfectly happy to continue to use the old models..as frankly I have learned to make them much more in keeping with my vision of the Tau.

Bring on the new stuff, and maybe down the line release a new XV-8A model or somesuch, right out of the gate they need to lead strong, and not just rehash old models with new designs across the board.

But regardless people will always grouse about what is not being done, if it was a bunch of remakes people would be complaining that there is nothing new in this codex.

Besides...the XV-8 is a beauty queen compared to the Leman russ, the IG have been saddled with that forever

 JOHIRA wrote:
With all this talk of why GW can't remake the XV-8s, keep in mind this is the same GW that produced a metal (or was it Finecast?) Bloodcrusher of Khorne model what, a year before producing a plastic kit?

What GW assigns its resources to is a calculated risk based on what the penny-pinchers in corporate think will sell. They have clearly decided that we players will continue to buy GW products if they give us a bunch of silly new shineys rather than fixing a plastic kit that was frankly on the edge of acceptable design way back when they first made it, and has only gone down-hill since. The only way to change their mind is to not buy the new shineys.

Which is what I'll be not doing.

This is actually one of the smarter things GW does.

While they feel they might have a good idea, internally, what people will buy, they've obviously completely missed the mark a few times. So anything that is at a risk of not selling what is expected, they don't move it to plastic until they see resin/metal sales to justify it.

In regards to the XV-8, bear in mind that the same slot has the Riptide in it, a brand new large kit which probably took two whole molds. That's risk enough. By not redesigning them, they've given themselves one less plastic mold to recoup costs on. Let the risk on the Riptide ride out. Not to mention new XV-8's wouldn't have as wide of an appeal as something like the Riptide.

After all, existing Tau players would have plenty of XV-8's, and there's plenty more going around second hand. To be fair, I realize existing Tau players would have plenty of XV-88's as well, but the XV-88 underwent more than a simple resculpt. It had an entire role redesign, with a model giving a larger footprint, and is not competing with another new kit in the same slot, as far as we know.

I dunno why, but at a passing glance that Broadsides looks like he's playing air guitar with the railgun.

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
And what if they did re-do the XV-8, the fire warriors, devilfish/hammerhead, gundrones, and since that would likely take a large chunk out of the alloted resources that have been allocated for the Tau project, we may get 1 or 2 new models or units.

If the new codex does not remake the wheel with the XV-8 and such, just have new rules/statlines, with maybe a few options (that may or may not even need to be modeled), I am perfectly happy to continue to use the old models..as frankly I have learned to make them much more in keeping with my vision of the Tau.

Bring on the new stuff, and maybe down the line release a new XV-8A model or somesuch, right out of the gate they need to lead strong, and not just rehash old models with new designs across the board.

But regardless people will always grouse about what is not being done, if it was a bunch of remakes people would be complaining that there is nothing new in this codex.

Besides...the XV-8 is a beauty queen compared to the Leman russ, the IG have been saddled with that forever

I'm not saying they have to redo every model, but they could have redesigned the XV8 chasis, and then turned it into a dual kit with the Broadside. Two models made all shiny and new (as opposed to the one that they currently have), and they only need to change a single mold (just as they are already going to have to do for the broadsides now anyway).

Considering that the XV8 is essentially the poster-boy of the Tau forces, that doesn't sound so bad.

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy..........stupidly excited for the new dex!!! Seriously just happy for the update! Even if it might suck lol


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Oh! perhaps his cape gives him special powers?! lol


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Im also curious....how much truth is there to the fact that the new battleforce and w/e else wont be released until may even though the dex is coming out sooner?

 Fafnir wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Larger pic of Dark Strider (all by zhongzzw over at ATT):

Oh god, that looks awful.

Can't......tell whether........ joking........ or sarcastic.
Personally I love this model, it makes me want to jump back into 40k after a year hiatus.

I can't tell which part I love more. The completely rigid and static pose that has an entirely wrong sense of direction, the completely ridiculous looking scowl on his face, or the stupidly large gun that is stupidly oversized even for GW standards.