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 Oaka wrote:
I know there were some people hoping for suits to be Troops, but it doesn't look that way.

I don't think many folks were expecting them to be a full-on Troops choice, but perhaps that a character might unlock them as such similar to Cult Marines in C:CSM.

Not sure if it's still worth holding out hope for that either.

 Malthor wrote:
- it seems there was a typo in the WD and the 3 Krisis suits will be € 50 ( ~USD 67) instead of the price mentioned there

that would be a substantial price drop - kind of out of character.
Still, they might have just cut back on the number of drones, that might explain (and be a good thing too, I guess).

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Malthor wrote:
- it seems there was a typo in the WD and the 3 Krisis suits will be € 50 ( ~USD 67) instead of the price mentioned there

that would be a substantial price drop - kind of out of character.
Still, they might have just cut back on the number of drones, that might explain (and be a good thing too, I guess).

I think the WD got prices wrong once again before, so it could be true I guess.

Also, the single Krisis will still be available, albeit direct only

The single Crisis suit costs £15.50 in the UK. When you subtract VAT (20%) the price becomes £12.91 which is $19.50 so three of them in a bargain box might be $50, though it seems unlikely.

Also there is the annual price increase to come.

 Archonate wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
Translations from the page to english (via Google

1: Commander has a ritual knife to his side, ready to sign that oath to support his companions even in the worst circumstances.

2: exo-armor tau retractable usually have hands folded in their forearms. The exo-armor commander was sculpted with both hands outstretched.

3: The spark gap was cyclo-ion bursts [cyclic ion blaster?] may issue a formidable high rate of fire

4: The launcher loads a dispersion propels a projectile directly at the enemy. then it explodes cauant maximum damage.

5: Escorted by a team of exo-armor crisis, a tau commander brings the fight to the enemy

So I guess the CIB and ABF are remaining special issue than?

Sad. I was hoping there'd be a chance to get better anti-horde weapons on normal suits.

Meh, who knows what the new rules will allow, or how weapons might have changed. Personally I'm hoping the CIB has a higher S and maybe decent AP or perhaps Rending. Seems to me that an Ion weapon with an extremely high rate of fire should have Rending...

Actually the CIB has rending right now...sort of. It ignores armor on rolls to wound of 6. But it would be better if it actually had rending, since that allows it to wound on a 6 regardless of toughness. TBH the CIB is great right now, since it operates very similar to Burst cannons, so it a commander with that pairs well with a unit of suits armed with BC.

 Malthor wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Malthor wrote:
- it seems there was a typo in the WD and the 3 Krisis suits will be € 50 ( ~USD 67) instead of the price mentioned there

that would be a substantial price drop - kind of out of character.
Still, they might have just cut back on the number of drones, that might explain (and be a good thing too, I guess).

I think the WD got prices wrong once again before, so it could be true I guess.

Also, the single Krisis will still be available, albeit direct only

I suppose. Still think they'll cut back on the drones if that's true, though.

 Bolognesus wrote:

that would be a substantial price drop - kind of out of character.
Still, they might have just cut back on the number of drones, that might explain (and be a good thing too, I guess).

If they're planning new Crisis suits for the second wave, they might want to sell the current ones at bargain price to get rid of them before that.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The single Crisis suit costs £15.50 in the UK. When you subtract VAT (20%) the price becomes £12.91 which is $19.50 so three of them in a bargain box might be $50, though it seems unlikely.

Also there is the annual price increase to come.

Single Crisis in the US is 24.75. So x3 is 74.25. $67 is a bargain.

 Malthor wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Small tidbits:
There is a mail order set of Farsight Enclave shoulder pads for Fire Warriors.
Darkstrider is male.
Kroot are in.
Farsight is a rebel but still loyal.
You see the heightened field on top of the bomber wings? You can push them open and see the seeker missiles underneath.
The missile Broadside is really full of missiles

The missile broadside is awesome

Some other things I heard today:

- the squad Darkstrider joins(either pathfinder or Fire Warriors) treats enemies as -1 T for shooting

- the Tankcomander is a beast, he makes his tank BS 5, gives Tank Hunter and PE: IG

- it seems there was a typo in the WD and the 3 Krisis suits will be € 50 ( ~USD 67) instead of the price mentioned there

The question is whether Darkstrider's -1 T counts for seeker missiles fired by the squad's markerlights.(Past rulings on seekers in regards to cover and vehicle facings seem to treat them as originating from the markerlight unit.). Also, whether the penalty effects the strength required for Instant Death. ID'ing T3 characters with basic pulse rifles would be nasty.

So effectively the tank commander has a 35/36 chance in hitting, penetrates AV14 50% of the time, glances 25% of the time.

So a 24% chance of killing AV14 outright.

I just wish he granted Tank Hunters to all Hammerheads in your army.

What currency is OP?

 PraetorDave wrote:

 Archonate wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
Translations from the page to english (via Google

1: Commander has a ritual knife to his side, ready to sign that oath to support his companions even in the worst circumstances.

2: exo-armor tau retractable usually have hands folded in their forearms. The exo-armor commander was sculpted with both hands outstretched.

3: The spark gap was cyclo-ion bursts [cyclic ion blaster?] may issue a formidable high rate of fire

4: The launcher loads a dispersion propels a projectile directly at the enemy. then it explodes cauant maximum damage.

5: Escorted by a team of exo-armor crisis, a tau commander brings the fight to the enemy

So I guess the CIB and ABF are remaining special issue than?

Sad. I was hoping there'd be a chance to get better anti-horde weapons on normal suits.

Meh, who knows what the new rules will allow, or how weapons might have changed. Personally I'm hoping the CIB has a higher S and maybe decent AP or perhaps Rending. Seems to me that an Ion weapon with an extremely high rate of fire should have Rending...

Actually the CIB has rending right now...sort of. It ignores armor on rolls to wound of 6. But it would be better if it actually had rending, since that allows it to wound on a 6 regardless of toughness.

True, true. But it is a bit upsetting how few of its 5 shots ever end up killing anything. I picture the CIB to be like an assault cannon, but firing more volatile ammunition. I suppose it's just wishful thinking. But still, S3?? Awful...

Box with 3 Crisis Suits is indeed 50 €.

According to BOLS, official US-prices are:

Codex: Tau Empire (English, 104p, Full Color Hardcover) $49.50
XV8 Crisis Battlesuit Team $65.00
Pathfinder Team (13 minis, incl. Drones) $35.00
Hammerhead Gunship (repack with Skyray) $60.00
Sun Shark Bomber $65.00
XV104 Riptide Battlesuit $85.00
XV88 Broadside Battlesuit $50.00
Cadre Fireblade $20.00
Tau Empire Battleforce $120.00

More pics from WD, again posted by Senshi_Sama on the French Warhammer Forum http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=176222&st=700
Broadsides:


Flyer details:


Riptide details:

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True, true. But it is a bit upsetting how few of its 5 shots ever end up killing anything. I picture the CIB to be like an assault cannon, but firing more volatile ammunition. I suppose it's just wishful thinking. But still, S3?? Awful...

Many things in the previous codex were awful and did not get used. Let us hope that there are not many awful things in the new codex.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Box with 3 Crisis Suits is indeed 50 €.

So going off the French prices on the GW site, that's a pretty stiff increase. (10.50€ right now for 1)
Whereas the US are getting a huge discount.
Oh GW, you so crazy.

Samurai_Eduh wrote:
Love the cover art! Looking at the Battleforce picture, has the Pirhana changed? Doesnt look like it.

No, it seems like same old Forgeworld Piranha which they have used in studio army. Funny actually that they haven't painted up their current stock Piranhas.


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 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Box with 3 Crisis Suits is indeed 50 €.

So going off the French prices on the GW site, that's a pretty stiff increase. (10.50€ right now for 1)
Whereas the US are getting a huge discount.
Oh GW, you so crazy.

No, Euro price for Crisis suit is €19.50. Wow, it actually looks like they discounted Crisis suits after all?? Except for Brits who have to do with a modest £1.50 discount apparently.

 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Box with 3 Crisis Suits is indeed 50 €.

So going off the French prices on the GW site, that's a pretty stiff increase. (10.50€ right now for 1)
Whereas the US are getting a huge discount.
Oh GW, you so crazy.

Look again: It is 19,50 €., so a 8.50€ discount.

Rusty french time.

1) A duo of exoarmored XV88 Broadsides provide a solid anchor at the rear of a line of tau.
2) The Broadside kit includes two drones, who can be equipped a variety of ways. They can carry extra missile pods, which are found exclusively in this kit.
3) The broadside possesses a particle accelerator that feeds the powerful rail gun (ugh, that is sloppy translation on my part).
4) A seeker missile can be mounted on the shoulder of the broadside?
5) The missile pods can alternatively replace the rail cannon and the standard armament of the XV88.

Umm, Defense Drones that protect the suit (for Riptides). Comes with three heads to choose from.

Oh well, someone else can get the rest. I'm out for the night.

Re: Prices. Oh snap, I was looking at the conversion kit. Yay me!

It looks like its time to strap a seeker to the back of my current XV88s! make him look like an ork jetpack fella. that will look funny.

Wow on that missile pod broadside. [Insert "we heard you liked missile pods..." meme here]

Oh god the plasma bomb blower looks like a bubble wand.

Also finally i have a use for all these extra drones. converting tons of missile pod drone time. though i should still wait for the book first

 pretre wrote:
Rusty french time.

1) A duo of exoarmored XV88 Broadsides provide a solid anchor at the rear of a line of tau.
2) The Broadside kit includes two drones, who can be equipped a variety of ways. They can carry extra missile pods, which are found exclusively in this kit.
3) The broadside possesses a particle accelerator that feeds the powerful rail gun (ugh, that is sloppy translation on my part).
4) A seeker missile can be mounted on the shoulder of the broadside?
5) The missile pods can alternatively replace the rail cannon and the standard armament of the XV88.

Umm, Defense Drones that protect the suit (for Riptides). Comes with three heads to choose from.

Oh well, someone else can get the rest. I'm out for the night.

Re: Prices. Oh snap, I was looking at the conversion kit. Yay me!

Hopefully #3 means the railgun has an overcharge option.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Broadsides:

Guys, guys. I don't think that missile broadside has enough missiles.

It's actually not bad, Pretre, I would have gone for something very, very similar for #3.

 TheMind wrote:



Guys, guys. I don't think that missile broadside has enough missiles.

Luckily, you can grab some missile drones to add more.

Ugh, the Broadside Missile variant is too much. I liked the old design much more. GW knew the limit back then.

 Harriticus wrote:
Ugh, the Broadside Missile variant is too much. I liked the old design much more. GW knew the limit back then.

Heresy! The missile broadside is the greatest thing since the regular broadside! ALL OF THE MISSILES FOREVER!!

I'm really likling the new broadsides. They are beefier, better armor, and the weapons are sick.

I can already envision my gundam heavyarms conversion for WTF!? missile ridiculousness.

 buddha wrote:
I'm really likling the new broadsides. They are beefier, better armor, and the weapons are sick.

I can already envision my gundam heavyarms conversion for WTF!? missile ridiculousness.

I will have the maximum amount. All magnetized so they can be MMM or rail snipers.

Didn't think they could make the new Broadside kit look worse than the air guitar railgun one but there ya go; have an underdetailed box of plastic with as many oddly designed missile launchers as possible.

FW Broadsides are still the way to go and putting them on the larger 60mm base gives you more area to do some impressive base-work.

 Oaka wrote:
According to the battle report in the White Dwarf, Stealth Suits are still Elites choices and Pathfinders are still Fast Attack. No mention on whether Gun Drone Squads or Kroot are Troops choices.

I know there were some people hoping for suits to be Troops, but it doesn't look that way. It also looks like Pathfinders will compete with the new flyers, as they are also Fast Attack choices.

Drats!

Well at least I can save money by not having to purchase Pathfinders. That could change however if GW screw the pooch just like they did with the DA flyers.

It's too bad Stealth Suits and Crisis Suits are still competing for elite slots. I was hoping GW will make the Stealth Suits more marketable by making them troops.

Losing Gun Drone squads isn't a major lost. I really want to know what happens to Kroots.