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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wait, GW is giving us a good deal on the crisis suits?

It's not a good deal since most people would probably only buy one or two, but are now forced to buy 3...
That's quite a bit more profit for gw, espcially since crisis suits are probably arround 60-80% pure profit right now.

 IPS wrote:
That's quite a bit more profit for gw, espcially since crisis suits are probably arround 60-80% pure profit right now.

It is also a $3.33 discount ($10 off total on 3 models that used to be available individually) on a 12 year old model that had design flaws the day it came out. It is a nice discount over where they were a week ago but for a new release it is still disappointing.

 SonicPara wrote:

Hammerhead/Sky Ray is a loser at $60 with its 20% price increase for no, as of yet discovered, reason.

The reason isn't that hard to discover.

The Skyray kit pretty much invalidated the Hammerhead kit. It included all the same frames, at the same price point.
Anyone who expected them to retain the same price on the Skyray kit was kidding themselves.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Beep boop does not compute

Hang on a sec, that picture of the Kroot page from White Dwarf says something along the lines of "the codex doesn't have a single skull in sight".

Must be a very convincing fake

 Kanluwen wrote:
Anyone who expected them to retain the same price on the Skyray kit was kidding themselves.

The fact that the same exact kit was already available for $49.50 is precisely why it is garbage that it went up to $60. GW priced the Sky Ray $49.50 knowing full well its contents. This isn't them making a proper adjustment, it is simply a price hike. Unless they add in some fancy new drone or weapon sprues it is an unwarranted price increase using the new release as an excuse.

 SonicPara wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Anyone who expected them to retain the same price on the Skyray kit was kidding themselves.

The fact that the same exact kit was already available for $49.50 is precisely why it is garbage that it went up to $60. GW priced the Sky Ray $49.50 knowing full well its contents. This isn't them making a proper adjustment, it is simply a price hike. Unless they add in some fancy new drone or weapon sprues it is an unwarranted price increase using the new release as an excuse.

As opposed to any other time the exact same (or lesser) contents are repriced whenever a new release comes out?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wait, GW is giving us a good deal on the crisis suits?

Considering that it's a 12 year old model which was overpriced at $20 when it first came out...

It's more of a "refrain from punishment" than a "give a reward".

Probably they want to get the last gasp out of the sprue before retiring it in favor of new suits.


Speaking of...

In the Riptide interview Matt Holland talks about designing the Enforcer suit. But the new Battlesuit Commander is Edgar Ramos and the Cadre Fireblade is Dave Thomas(Founder of Wendy's). Does that mean he just did the art or is there a new suit coming later?

 ph34r wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Beep boop does not compute

I'm sorry you're bad at understanding things.

 IPS wrote:
It's not a good deal since most people would probably only buy one or two, but are now forced to buy 3...
That's quite a bit more profit for gw, espcially since crisis suits are probably arround 60-80% pure profit right now.

Veskrashen wrote:
Couple more tidbits scavenged from Warseer and ATT:

- Stealth teams keep Shrouded and Stealth, and can take a Homing Beacon.

- Crisis are apparently 3 suits + optional Shas'vre, for a total of 4 per unit.

If these are true, might give us a bit more flexibility in the Elites section - bigger Crisis units means we can still take 8 Crisis and fit in a Stealth team for Beacon and other support.

The way Veskrashen's post is worded, it sounds as though Crisis Teams will be no smaller than 3. In which case GW is selling us the squad minimum in that box set. In which case there's no good reason to buy just 1 or 2, especially at a markup.

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 ph34r wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Beep boop does not compute

I'm sorry you're bad at understanding things.

We already have the actually subtle plan by the Emperor... its pretty rare for GW to 180 on an allusion in their fluff... Though some necrontyr/tau connection would be awesome.

Thank god its a sandbox game! Had a thought today. I want to see the King James edition of 40k. That would be funny and cool.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wait, GW is giving us a good deal on the crisis suits?

Yea, there are about a few hundred naysayers having a heart murmur right about now.

 Lysenis wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wait, GW is giving us a good deal on the crisis suits?

Yea, there are about a few hundred naysayers having a heart murmur right about now.

The bastard part of my brain is going "Bah, they shaved a few dollars from the Crisis suit to make them back and more on the amazing riptides".

But it's still a welcome surprise.

Rented Tritium wrote:Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

I'd prefer it if the tau were either made by the last remaining Old Ones or were affected by something the Adeptus Mechanicus "accidentally" left on the Tau home world when they first discovered them.

I'd even prefer the Tau being the creation of the Eldar over the 'Crons. Seriously, the 'crons being the ancestors of the Tau "would" be the sledgehammer writing of the usual fluff.
Now a mysterious fated purpose from the old ones or some secret design of the Ad Mech could easily be written in an elegant nebulous grim/dark manner.

SonicPara wrote:
The fact that the same exact kit was already available for $49.50 is precisely why it is garbage that it went up to $60. GW priced the Sky Ray $49.50 knowing full well its contents. This isn't them making a proper adjustment, it is simply a price hike. Unless they add in some fancy new drone or weapon sprues it is an unwarranted price increase using the new release as an excuse.

I agree, that is why, while all of you were busy being upset by the price hike that we all knew was coming, I bought a Sky Ray NIB tonight for $42 off of Ebay.

Seriously though, I picked up the last cheap one currently listed while bits shopping for all of the upcoming converting that we are going to have to do (I'm betting that Missile pods will no longer be the weapon load-out of choice for the XV8's)

So yeah, Bits shopping tonight and reserved my WD today.....hard to believe that I am finally starting to buy for the update.

 Captain Avatar wrote:


So yeah, Bits shopping tonight and reserved my WD today.....hard to believe that I am finally starting to buy for the update.

...already pre-ordered 2 flyers and a Broadside (just can't resist doing an all missile team leader)

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 ph34r wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Beep boop does not compute

I'm sorry you're bad at understanding things.

I can't decide if it would be funnier if you didn't understand the irony, or if it was that you honestly believed that fan theory was better than GW writing. Rule #1, have a good one, keep doin' your thing champ.

 IPS wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wait, GW is giving us a good deal on the crisis suits?

It's not a good deal since most people would probably only buy one or two, but are now forced to buy 3...
That's quite a bit more profit for gw, espcially since crisis suits are probably arround 60-80% pure profit right now.

IDK, if you are starting out you probably want 6 suits so a pack of three is good value. Veteran players probably already have all the suits they need, and might pick up the new Commander model or Broadside, in which case they can convert their current commander and Broadsides into standard suits.

Apparently the opening of the Codex is quite creepy - Can't wait to read that.

I am massively surprised no one has mentioned

"Farsight Enclave Firewarrior Shoulder pads" - WE GET CUSTOMISED SHOULDER PADS?!?!? Holy cow bell. Makes a nice change.

Also - in that pic of the leaked Codex there are a few various suit sizes. Maybe one of those is the Enforcer armour?

 IPS wrote:
So I've sketched a little redesign for the Riptide that I will personally try to scratchbuild. (since I don't particularly like the GW design and it's too expansive for my taste.)
Maybe some of you can get some inspiration out of this as well.

Very nice design, I like the scale you've used, and good luck with the scratch build, I've already built something similar myself.

The helm is slightly offsettingfor me but I love this thing!

Based in this image:



It doesn't look like multi-trackers are built in. Seeing as all the suits except the commander (and the shield guy) have them on their shoulders.
Would it be a free upgrade but still takes up a slot?

Anyone have any thoughts or information on this?

Well it is an "upgraded suit" so I would guess that it is possible that it is built in but we can not see it or something like that. Take for instance that the new Suit has a pauldron on the left shoulder. Why is that there? Could it be housing new electronics?

Also take into account the size of the jump pack as well as the section right infront of the suits "head" These are all possible outcomes.

I've just checked the first tau codex, and they reused the models from that one, repainting the heads.
So it's nothing new they built for this release.

@hk1x1
nice project you've got there ; )

 ph34r wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 ph34r wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

 Rented Tritium wrote:
Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Beep boop does not compute

I'm sorry you're bad at understanding things.

I can't decide if it would be funnier if you didn't understand the irony, or if it was that you honestly believed that fan theory was better than GW writing. Rule #1, have a good one, keep doin' your thing champ.

So are you ever going to post something substantive about this or are you just going to make fun of me over it without explaining your thoughts? "Hurr durr, nope" is not actually a worthwhile post.

Lysenis wrote:Well it is an "upgraded suit" so I would guess that it is possible that it is built in but we can not see it or something like that. Take for instance that the new Suit has a pauldron on the left shoulder. Why is that there? Could it be housing new electronics?

Also take into account the size of the jump pack as well as the section right infront of the suits "head" These are all possible outcomes.

I wasn't referring to the XV8-05 but the other suits around him. The battle report in the OP suggested that BSF and multi-trackers are built into all XV8s now.

IPS wrote:I've just checked the first tau codex, and they reused the models from that one, repainting the heads.
So it's nothing new they built for this release.

@hk1x1
nice project you've got there ; )

Haha that is just laziness at its finest right there!

Pre-order up in less than 24 hours. My local flgs is currently shut and after a bad experience with total wargames I may just bend over and take the one click bundle on the ipad from the comfort of my pit lol

 Captain Avatar wrote:

Rented Tritium wrote:Tau can get more grimdark if it's done in an elegant way without the sledgehammer subtle writing of the usual 12 year old fluff guys.

Personally, I'd love to see the fan theory about the tau being the descendants of the necrontyr as part of some huge plan moved more into canon.

I'd prefer it if the tau were either made by the last remaining Old Ones or were affected by something the Adeptus Mechanicus "accidentally" left on the Tau home world when they first discovered them.

I'd even prefer the Tau being the creation of the Eldar over the 'Crons. Seriously, the 'crons being the ancestors of the Tau "would" be the sledgehammer writing of the usual fluff.
Now a mysterious fated purpose from the old ones or some secret design of the Ad Mech could easily be written in an elegant nebulous grim/dark manner.

SonicPara wrote:
The fact that the same exact kit was already available for $49.50 is precisely why it is garbage that it went up to $60. GW priced the Sky Ray $49.50 knowing full well its contents. This isn't them making a proper adjustment, it is simply a price hike. Unless they add in some fancy new drone or weapon sprues it is an unwarranted price increase using the new release as an excuse.

I agree, that is why, while all of you were busy being upset by the price hike that we all knew was coming, I bought a Sky Ray NIB tonight for $42 off of Ebay.

Seriously though, I picked up the last cheap one currently listed while bits shopping for all of the upcoming converting that we are going to have to do (I'm betting that Missile pods will no longer be the weapon load-out of choice for the XV8's)

So yeah, Bits shopping tonight and reserved my WD today.....hard to believe that I am finally starting to buy for the update.

Pfff, aye right, GW writing the AdMech as anything other than stooges? You can't go more than five paces in 40K without running into a Techpriest who's secretly a Necron, or who was duped by THE EMPRAH, or by Horus, or a *hint hint nudge nudge* implication that the whole organisation is essentially a lie based on their being brainwashed by a C'tan in their dreams or some crap. Right now the AdMech are up there with the Iron Hands, Sisters of Battle, and Abaddon as GW's go-to fluff punching bags.

 mh_mini wrote:
It doesn't look like multi-trackers are built in. Seeing as all the suits except the commander (and the shield guy) have them on their shoulders.
Would it be a free upgrade but still takes up a slot?

Anyone have any thoughts or information on this?

Maybe it was just me, because I can't find anything to back it up now that I'm searching, but I was pretty sure the Multi Tracker part officially pulled double-duty as a Drone Controller