New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**Chrysis**

Not on two Markerlight hits, because you need two hits to ignore cover and one to boost BS per point. So you'd fire all 6 at either BS 5 or Ignoring Cover, but not BS 4 ignoring cover.

**Roleplayer**

MajinMalak wrote:
Looks like a lot of questions flying around. You can find most of the leaked pics here: (not taking credit, this has been posted before on pg 105)

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11167664-rumores-tau/

It starts in spanish, but if you scroll to the newer posts found at the bottom you can see the english leaked pages. Probably answer a lot of questions.

With modern smartphones how can anyone be so spastic at taking photos?

Those first photos of the English dex are terrible? Looks like there taken by Michael J Fox on a bad day after heavy drinking.

**Coyote81**

SonicPara wrote:
Chrysis wrote:
Pretty sure you expend the counters, so there's no way it could stack all those effects on two markerlight hits.

There are conflicting reports about Seekers but one report states that the Seeker can be fired by its platform as if it were a standard weapon, without Markerlight guidance. It loses the BS5 and other benefits it would usually gain but, in the case of the Sky Ray, "dumb-firing" the missiles may be a great thing.

As previously suggested, you fire the Networked Markerlights at the flyer with a 75% chance to hit. You then "dumb-fire" as many missiles as you like (assuming the Sky Ray did not move of course) and use whatever Markerlight hits you got to buff the entire salvo. This would make firing six missiles at either BS5 or BS4 with ignoring cover possible.

This all hinges on whether or not Seekers can be fired manually by the unit that carries them, without a Markerlight token being used to guide it in. If so, the Sky Ray can really lay down the hurt on some flyers in a single round of shooting. What you do after with it is a problem but its effectiveness is undeniable.

Is it just me or is the verbage in the marklight Seeker ability make is seem that only vehicles with seeker missiles can fire their seeker missiles in this method. And I'm sure broadsides can take seeker missiles. This leads me to believe that you have to be able to "dumb" fire your seeker missiles, or broadsides can't actually fire their seeker missiles.

**Wolfnid420**

Roleplayer wrote:
MajinMalak wrote:
Looks like a lot of questions flying around. You can find most of the leaked pics here: (not taking credit, this has been posted before on pg 105)

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11167664-rumores-tau/

It starts in spanish, but if you scroll to the newer posts found at the bottom you can see the english leaked pages. Probably answer a lot of questions.

With modern smartphones how can anyone be so spastic at taking photos?

Those photos of the English dex are terrible? Looks like there taken by Michael J Fox on a bad day after heavy drinking.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha wow....terribly hilarious

**RogueRegault**

lambsandlions wrote:
RogueRegault wrote:
So, an interesting thing that cropped up on 4chan is that thanks to the seeker missile changes the Skyray really is the best anti-air platform in the game.

The missiles are no longer equipment, they're six individual one-shot weapons, and it does not have a flyer's missile limitation.

So if it does not move on its turn, it gets to fire its networked markerlights (75% chance of at least one hitting) and then can fire ALL SIX S8 missiles at BS4+markerlight bonus.

If it manages to hit with both markerlights, it can fire at BS4 and prevent the target from Jinking.

You need to spend 1 marker light per missile fired. If you only hit with one marker light you can only shoot one missile. And it will be BS5. But it is still a nice anti-air vehicle.

The rules explicitly state that seeker missiles can be fired as normal weapons with normal BS. The effect of consuming a markerlight is to make them BS5, ignore cover, and not count as a weapon fired(So a Pirahna can move fast and still launch one. Think they can't flat-out and fire one though.) If a vehicle is stationary, it can fire all weapons. So you just need to use the markerlight to boost BS.

**Lobokai**

RogueRegault wrote:
lambsandlions wrote:
RogueRegault wrote:
So, an interesting thing that cropped up on 4chan is that thanks to the seeker missile changes the Skyray really is the best anti-air platform in the game.

The missiles are no longer equipment, they're six individual one-shot weapons, and it does not have a flyer's missile limitation.

So if it does not move on its turn, it gets to fire its networked markerlights (75% chance of at least one hitting) and then can fire ALL SIX S8 missiles at BS4+markerlight bonus.

If it manages to hit with both markerlights, it can fire at BS4 and prevent the target from Jinking.

You need to spend 1 marker light per missile fired. If you only hit with one marker light you can only shoot one missile. And it will be BS5. But it is still a nice anti-air vehicle.

The rules explicitly state that seeker missiles can be fired as normal weapons with normal BS. The effect of consuming a markerlight is to make them BS5, ignore cover, and not count as a weapon fired(So a Pirahna can move fast and still launch one. Think they can't flat-out and fire one though.) If a vehicle is stationary, it can fire all weapons. So you just need to use the markerlight to boost BS.

Unfortunately heldrake doesn't need cover as it has an invuln... so broken

**Kilkrazy**

Has it been confirmed that Crisis units can now have up to four suits?

**Ravenous D**

So here is the Tau deathstar:

Farsight
Commander
- 2 missile pods, drone controller, 2 missile drones
7 bodyguard
-14 missile pods
-14 missile drones

Thats 36 bs5 missile pod shots, and 28 bs3 missile pod shots, with on of the signature systems you can add for 15pts, one model doesnt fire to give the rest re rolls to hit.

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Kilkrazy wrote:
Has it been confirmed that Crisis units can now have up to four suits?

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**lambsandlions**

Ravenous D wrote:
So here is the Tau deathstar:

Farsight
Commander
- 2 missile pods, drone controller, 2 missile drones
7 bodyguard
-14 missile pods
-14 missile drones

Thats 36 bs5 missile pod shots, and 28 bs3 missile pod shots, with on of the signature systems you can add for 15pts, one model doesnt fire to give the rest re rolls to hit.

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Kilkrazy wrote:
Has it been confirmed that Crisis units can now have up to four suits?

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Oh how I wish this was true but sadly drone controller says gun, marker and sniper drones only :(. I thought the same thing. But marker lights can give you bs5 and ignore cover so it is pretty good. But to be honest I don't think you need a death star that big. Smaller units would probably be better. Also taking two missile pods on a drone doesn't give you two guns it just tls them

**tiberius183**

Which do you think is the better new Broadside configuration? Missile-mania or railhead? Also, since Broadsides can still only take one support system, which would be better, Interceptor or Skyfire? Right now I'm debating either Missile broadsides w/ Interceptor, or rail rifles with Skyfire. Decisions, decisions...

**Thrax**

Aside from the Riptide, is there a list of who/what can take missile drones?

**lambsandlions**

Thrax wrote:
Aside from the Riptide, is there a list of who/what can take missile drones?

looks like all battle suits and some HQs

**Ravenous D**

tiberius183 wrote:
Which do you think is the better new Broadside configuration? Missile-mania or railhead? Also, since Broadsides can still only take one support system, which would be better, Interceptor or Skyfire? Right now I'm debating either Missile broadsides w/ Interceptor, or rail rifles with Skyfire. Decisions, decisions...

High Yield missiles and velocity tracker.

Did the math, 12 broadside with heavy rail rifles to drop a dragon vs 4 with high yeild missiles. And its selective skyfire, which is amazing.

**lambsandlions**

Ravenous wrote:
High Yield missiles and velocity tracker.

Did the math, 12 broadside with heavy rail rifles to drop a dragon vs 4 with high yeild missiles. And its selective skyfire, which is amazing.

is that front or back armor?

**AmCjkh**

Ravenous D wrote:
tiberius183 wrote:
Which do you think is the better new Broadside configuration? Missile-mania or railhead? Also, since Broadsides can still only take one support system, which would be better, Interceptor or Skyfire? Right now I'm debating either Missile broadsides w/ Interceptor, or rail rifles with Skyfire. Decisions, decisions...

High Yield missiles and velocity tracker.

Did the math, 12 broadside with heavy rail rifles to drop a dragon vs 4 with high yeild missiles. And its selective skyfire, which is amazing.

Is that assuming the high yield missiles are twin-linked? From the Spanish dex scans it didn't seem like they were.

**tiberius183**

Also, since I can't find a scan of the English page that has the Broadside stats, and I'm too lazy to translate the Spanish one right now, anyone know if the high-yield missiles are TL?

**Chrysis**

Front. A High-Yield Missile pod armed Broadside will on average do 2/3rds of a Hull Point in damage to a Heldrake after saves assuming no Markerlight support. A Heldrake has 3 HP, so it takes 9/2 Broadsides, or 4.5 Broadsides, to on average kill a Heldrake in one turn by stripping Hull Points.

That's assuming BS3 and TL on the Missiles.

**AmCjkh**

tiberius183 wrote:
Also, since I can't find a scan of the English page that has the Broadside stats, and I'm too lazy to translate the Spanish one right now, anyone know if the high-yield missiles are TL?

Scan is here. http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu160/Specnaz83/Apoyopesado_zps0edef47a.jpg

Heavy Rail Rife is "rifle de acceleracion pesado" and twin-linked is "acoplado" (or coupled). Can replace the HRR with "un modulo lanzamisiles de alto explosivo". So can replace HRR with one high-yield missile launcher. Doesn't say TL =/.

But then again, the Spanish dex also says you can replace the SMS with TWO TL plasma rifles, which is clearly nuts. So could be a mistranslation?

**Cryonicleech**

False Alarm, nothing to see here =p

**Thrax**

Cryonicleech wrote:
Has anybody checked the GW website recently?

If I'm seeing this correctly it's listing the codex as $83 USD!!!

The Battleforce is now $180, A Piranha is $41, and a single Broadside suit is now $73!

The worst part are the Firewarrior boxes. $55 USD for 12 models! Even the Kroot Carnivores are up!

Is it just me or are these the real prices? Could this be why the stuff was delayed at stores? Either way, I'm incredibly confused...

You sure you're not on the Canadian site?

**AmCjkh**

Cryonicleech wrote:
Has anybody checked the GW website recently?

If I'm seeing this correctly it's listing the codex as $83 USD!!!

The Battleforce is now $180, A Piranha is $41, and a single Broadside suit is now $73!

The worst part are the Firewarrior boxes. $55 USD for 12 models! Even the Kroot Carnivores are up!

Is it just me or are these the real prices? Could this be why the stuff was delayed at stores? Either way, I'm incredibly confused...

I had that too. Australian prices, dunno why the site automatically redirected me to that. Maybe has something to do with the recent downtime?

**Cryonicleech**

Blimey, looks like I was on the AUS site...

Heart damn near skipped a beat.

**dpal666**

Cryonicleech wrote:
Has anybody checked the GW website recently?

If I'm seeing this correctly it's listing the codex as $83 USD!!!

The Battleforce is now $180, A Piranha is $41, and a single Broadside suit is now $73!

The worst part are the Firewarrior boxes. $55 USD for 12 models! Even the Kroot Carnivores are up!

Is it just me or are these the real prices? Could this be why the stuff was delayed at stores? Either way, I'm incredibly confused...

I'm on their site now, You must have selected a diff country, dex is 50, piranha is 30, broadside is 50, and battleforce is 110

**SabrX**

If an Ethereal is inside a Devilfish, will his Invocation of Elements measure from the Devilfish's hull?

**Puscifer**

Ravenous D wrote:
So here is the Tau deathstar:

Farsight
Commander
- 2 missile pods, drone controller, 2 missile drones
7 bodyguard
-14 missile pods
-14 missile drones

I'd like to try that with Plasma Rifles over Missile Pods. Could be brutal against the right targets. You could even add in a couple of Burst Cannons to go Horde Hunting.

**tuiman**

Cryonicleech wrote:
Blimey, looks like I was on the AUS site...

Heart damn near skipped a beat.

Hahahaha, now you know what we go through every new release.

New tau looking pretty nice, 3 people play out of 7 in my gaming group so will be seeing a lot of riptides soon. Need to start thinking of ways to play this army now.

**Ravenous D**

AmCjkh wrote:
Ravenous D wrote:
tiberius183 wrote:
Which do you think is the better new Broadside configuration? Missile-mania or railhead? Also, since Broadsides can still only take one support system, which would be better, Interceptor or Skyfire? Right now I'm debating either Missile broadsides w/ Interceptor, or rail rifles with Skyfire. Decisions, decisions...

High Yield missiles and velocity tracker.

Did the math, 12 broadside with heavy rail rifles to drop a dragon vs 4 with high yeild missiles. And its selective skyfire, which is amazing.

Is that assuming the high yield missiles are twin-linked? From the Spanish dex scans it didn't seem like they were.

the broadsides trade the TL heavy rail rifle for a TL High yield missile.

**davou**

SabrX wrote:
If an Ethereal is inside a Devilfish, will his Invocation of Elements measure from the Devilfish's hull?

Invocation of the elements does not have any range requirements, his leadership modification would measure from the hull however.

The invocations are armywide, unlimited range.

**tiberius183**

You're positive the HY missiles are TL?

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davou wrote:
SabrX wrote:
If an Ethereal is inside a Devilfish, will his Invocation of Elements measure from the Devilfish's hull?

Invocation of the elements does not have any range requirements, his leadership modification would measure from the hull however.

The invocations are armywide, unlimited range.

Nope. 12".

**AtoMaki**

tiberius183 wrote:
You're positive the HY missiles are TL?.

The high-yield missile pod is twin-linked.