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Honestly I think I'll try out two Crisis suit commanders with marker drone squads and a couple shield drones. Fill the third FA slot with a Bomber or fighter. It gives me more BS5 markers that are more mobile and hit better than pathfinders while also being tougher. Plus it makes up for the lack of pulse weapon shots by providing markers to the Elites and Heavy with their low ap weaponry.

Puscifer wrote:
In regards to the Fireblade and Ethereal, they are but secondary hq choices when compared to the Commanders.

The Fireblade buffs are for one squad only... one paper thin squad.

The Ethereal again only buffs one squad, but gives more buffs.

Personally, after reading up on them, I'd take Space Pope. He can give two squads buffs.

Nope. The Ethereal buffs are a bubble effect, all friendly C:TE units within 12".

Also, the 1+ crisis commander requirement is gone.

Backfire wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Personally, after reading up on them, I'd take Space Pope. He can give two squads buffs.

This is noteworthy in that up until like a week ago, you would never have heard those words uttered. Space Pope, the worst unit in any army, ever. And that includes games which are not Warhammer 40k.

Seriously, I'm utterly puzzled who came up with the idea of Aun'va, and why. Putting him to a Tau army is like having Teddy Roosevelt lead up a charge on Omaha Beach.

Way off topic, but do you mean Franklin D. Roosevelt? Cause Teddy leading a charge isn't a strange idea at all.

Problem is as with any 6th edition book you cant really compare 1 to 1. You have to look at everything in the context of the book. So yes taking into account things like markerlights into a units viability is pretty much mandatory in determining somethings use.

shade1313 wrote:

Backfire wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

Personally, after reading up on them, I'd take Space Pope. He can give two squads buffs.

This is noteworthy in that up until like a week ago, you would never have heard those words uttered. Space Pope, the worst unit in any army, ever. And that includes games which are not Warhammer 40k.

Seriously, I'm utterly puzzled who came up with the idea of Aun'va, and why. Putting him to a Tau army is like having Teddy Roosevelt lead up a charge on Omaha Beach.

Way off topic, but do you mean Franklin D. Roosevelt? Cause Teddy leading a charge isn't a strange idea at all.

Oh right. Hey, it's not my country's presidents! There is no way I'd confuse C.G.E Mannerheim with Tarja Halonen.

tiberius183 wrote:

Puscifer wrote:
In regards to the Fireblade and Ethereal, they are but secondary hq choices when compared to the Commanders.

The Fireblade buffs are for one squad only... one paper thin squad.

The Ethereal again only buffs one squad, but gives more buffs.

Personally, after reading up on them, I'd take Space Pope. He can give two squads buffs.

Nope. The Ethereal buffs are a bubble effect, all friendly C:TE units within 12".

Also, the 1+ crisis commander requirement is gone.

As is the Fire warrior requirement, you can take 120 Sniper Kroot

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The fact that people are arguing about what to use in their limited FOC slots is an indicator that the codex is overall more varied, interesting and capable than before.

HAHA this!

Totally agree. Nice work, GW. You gave us the primary thing that us Tau players have been wanting for years: options.

tiberius183 wrote:
Totally agree. Nice work, GW. You gave us the primary thing that us Tau players have been wanting for years: options.

Yep. I mean, just look what awesome new option Vespid got: they now have the option of NOT take the Strain Leader, and stay at Ld6. That's exactly what I wanted all those years.

If WWII had been during Teddy Roosevelt's 'prime' years, he most certainly would have been leading men during.

He was a politician who wanted a War (Spanish American War), and was so very much for it-he gave up his easy Politician job so he could fight.

We don't have people like that in this country anymore.

I've always called Aun'Va the Prophet Regret/Truth, to Farsight being "The Arbiter" for obvious reasons.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The fact that people are arguing about what to use in their limited FOC slots is an indicator that the codex is overall more varied, interesting and capable than before.

Exactly my thoughts. Puts a smile on my face.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 CaptainLoken wrote:
I have a quick question about the fluff...is the terrible "Space Marines now protect Tau becuase of a 10,000 year old document that the Emperor signed" bit in there? I was really afraid that it would be, even though the idea has received a LOT of flack from the community...

Wait what? I never heard of that horrible bit of fan fic.

Because that's all it was.

This was being bandied about before the edition changeover and was being touted as being in the main rulebook.
It was, of course, trolling nonsense.

Puscifer wrote:
In regards to the Fireblade and Ethereal, they are but secondary hq choices when compared to the Commanders.

The Fireblade buffs are for one squad only... one paper thin squad.

The Ethereal again only buffs one squad, but gives more buffs.

Personally, after reading up on them, I'd take Space Pope. He can give two squads buffs.

I honestly I'm liking the Suit Commander less and less due to his high points cost. I feel like i could bring a Ethereal instead, give some reasonably good buffs to units around me and still have over 100pts for more firepower else where. Suit commanders just so many bull-eyes on them every game, but an Ethereal will often get over shadowed by other units in your army, but still pay out his points worth of buff every game. I'm looking forward to the buff and leadership reliability of ethereal, and Aun'va.

Is there any restriction to taking 3 of the same weapon? Say, a Twin-Linked Plasma Rifle, and the 3rd point being another Plasma Rifle?

CleverAntics wrote:
Is there any restriction to taking 3 of the same weapon? Say, a Twin-Linked Plasma Rifle, and the 3rd point being another Plasma Rifle?

Can say for 100% since i don't have my codex, but a lot of people have said that the restriction has gone away, so now you can have one TL weapon and a non-TL of the same weapon.

Nope, although you cannot fire more then 2. So you can twin link two and fire the other just fine

Sorry if it has been mentioned, but do we have details on Farsight having the potential for a huge unit of bodyguards still? I know that he doesn't make Crisis suits troops, but his huge bodyguard death star is one of my favorite units to flaunt around the battlefield and I'm hoping it's still in there.

Thanks!

lucas wrote:
Sorry if it has been mentioned, but do we have details on Farsight having the potential for a huge unit of bodyguards still? I know that he doesn't make Crisis suits troops, but his huge bodyguard death star is one of my favorite units to flaunt around the battlefield and I'm hoping it's still in there.

Thanks!

Yup, the scans say he can still take 1-7 bodyguards.

Lucarikx

Yep. 2x Plasma Rifles which turn into TL Plasma Rifles, then a singular one; should count as 2 weapons as far as firing them goes. I just want to out-Plasma a local opponent for the Hell of it, and with ML support, I think 16 shots at half range or 8 at long denying cover will be nice...dunno, I'll have to try it out.

I play against Marines all the time, although they're kinda dwindling nowadays.

And Farsight can have up to 7 Bodyguards.

lucas wrote:Sorry if it has been mentioned, but do we have details on Farsight having the potential for a huge unit of bodyguards still? I know that he doesn't make Crisis suits troops, but his huge bodyguard death star is one of my favorite units to flaunt around the battlefield and I'm hoping it's still in there.

Thanks!

Yes, he can have up to 7 crisis suits in his body guard.

CleverAntics wrote:Is there any restriction to taking 3 of the same weapon? Say, a Twin-Linked Plasma Rifle, and the 3rd point being another Plasma Rifle?

Currently the way I am reading it, no there is nothing prohibiting you from doing this.

Cool beanz. Thanks guys.

Is it sarcastic of me that i'm waiting for the first erata / faq to apear tomorrow?

What needs to be FAQed so far?

Im suprised this hasnt been mentioned yet: Commanders (regular farsight and shadowsun), dont lose independent character status if you get them Escorts. Meaning i can have a commander, buy 2 escorts and they run to different places. For me this is huge because we've always had problems with not enough XV8 squads. Now we can have 3 XV8s in elite, 2 commanders buffing or attaching to other squads or solo, and 2 Escort squads all running seperately from each other. Like you can use one Escort squad as Sunforges with the Neurochip to alpha strike any large vehicle while keeping Fireknives and Deathrains as they were.

Or heck have farsight leave his bomb and go assault a vehicle on his own

Backfire wrote:

tiberius183 wrote:
Totally agree. Nice work, GW. You gave us the primary thing that us Tau players have been wanting for years: options.

Yep. I mean, just look what awesome new option Vespid got: they now have the option of NOT take the Strain Leader, and stay at Ld6. That's exactly what I wanted all those years.

Ok, this is funny.

As i had posted before (wow...two days is a long time in this thread) overall the book looks solid.

Vespid however, are one of the "what were they thinking" units (in addition to the kroot CC nerf, and the fish cost) - so, a strain leader is now almost the cost of a terminator? Um...what?

I will still use them....after all, I have 27 of them...

Backfire wrote:
Seriously, I'm utterly puzzled who came up with the idea of Aun'va, and why. Putting him to a Tau army is like having Teddy Roosevelt lead up a charge on Omaha Beach.

shade1313 wrote:
Way off topic, but do you mean Franklin D. Roosevelt? Cause Teddy leading a charge isn't a strange idea at all.

Trevak Dal wrote:
If WWII had been during Teddy Roosevelt's 'prime' years, he most certainly would have been leading men during.
He was a politician who wanted a War (Spanish American War), and was so very much for it-he gave up his easy Politician job so he could fight.

Funny that this little OT exchange came about. Teddy Roosevelt was at Utah Beach. It wasn't the President of course. It was his oldest son, Teddy Roosevelt, Jr. That's probably why it came to mind in the first place. He was the oldest man in the invasion and the only general to land with the assault troops.

Thanks to the leaks, I'm over half-way done with my Battlescribe catalogue!

I hope they come out with a missile drone kit because damn and I going to missile drone spam.

Here is what I am thinking for my main little death star:

8 missile drones 96
2 fireknives 104
1 command + spectrum flamer 62
1 commander fireknife iridium armor drone controller140

With a iridium armor commander, 3 crisis suits (one with full spectrum and command and control nod) and then 8 missile drones. That will be 22 s7 ap4 re-rollable no cover save shots. The spectrum armor is not needed, its just really good against non-MEQs, but the command and control nod is amazing to help out snap fire. The commander in front means only s10 weapons can instant kill him and between 2+ armor, 4 wounds and look out sir, there should be very few casualties. With a little marker light support all shots will be bs5. That is 3 dead TEQs, 7 dead MEQs a turn, 17 dead GEQs a turn, 1 dead night-scythe a turn, 1 dead 13av or lower tank a turn. All from 36" away.

You may not even need the commander if the iridium armor doesn't work out well (it worked out very well for me so far in 6th). We need to get an FAQ on drone controller because if missile drones are covered by drone controller the commander is absolutely necessary if it is not then you can take the commander out as 16 TL s7 ap4 shots work out pretty well on their own and that would make the unit 140 points cheaper. Other options are to give suits fusion blasters and target locks so they can blow up 14av tanks. I think the plasma rifles are a little better but the unit may not even need it. so the unit is 262-410 pts depending on what you have in it.

I think one of these and two riptides might be the way to go. I am actually thinking naked riptides with ion cannons might be the best way to go at it as t6 w5 sv2+ 5++ with a 72" gun will be almost impossible to kill. Really nothing should be able to assault it because of the jump pack and the only unit I would be worried about firing at it would be fire dragons. I really don't think it needs drones or defensive support, maybe early warning or velocity tracker but nothing else really.

All my firewarrior teams are going to be 9 firewarriors, 1 sash'ui and 2 missile drones. Seems like a real nice set up.

Downloading Digital Codex presently...

The Good is about to get a bit Greater!

 Leth wrote:
What needs to be FAQed so far?

Drone controller is the biggest as the back entry says all drones and the front one says only gun, marker and sniper. And Whether AP1 effects our Ethereal friend.