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A Kingdom Death cross over would be pretty sweet, and help boost Arena Rex!

I'd agree that the price is OK for a large (35mm) highly detailed resin figure (by a know high end sculptor).

They're by no means cheap, but to play you really wouldn't need many,

and because of the materialsculptor they'll be great for painters too

If they were bringing them into the UK for us i'd certainly be in,

20% VAT and more annoyingly another £8 to the post office for collecting the VAT (I use government services are fair enough, but there's now way I belive the PO actually spends £8 collecting it, that's just a rip off) mean I'm still thinking about it

I guess what will be interesting is whether this will hold up pledge wise in a week or twos time when the unlocks slow down/stop and people ask themselves if they really intend to stick with it

(was THON a signpost for where small projects will end up, or was it a unique case with unique problems)

I think that THON was a unique case with unique problems/issues/challenges.

Thankfully this one ends in a little more than a month - more than enough time to refresh the gaming budget and pledge away!

 Alpharius wrote:
I think that THON was a unique case with unique problems/issues/challenges.

Thankfully this one ends in a little more than a month - more than enough time to refresh the gaming budget and pledge away!

Glad I'm not the only one that looks at the month ending difference in this from other stuff and thinks, "sweet, gaming budget refreshed!"

People are complaining about $17 models?
Oh, right, you're not used to GWs Au pricing.


On a serious note those those are some nice models and pretty cheap overall (if you can get a full team/army/whatever for a full sized game for under $100 that's cheap).
I'll definitely be going in for 6 or so models in the hopes that if I just show up at my FLGS with them someone will be interested.

 jonolikespie wrote:
People are complaining about $17 models?
Oh, right, you're not used to GWs Au pricing.


On a serious note those those are some nice models and pretty cheap overall (if you can get a full team/army/whatever for a full sized game for under $100 that's cheap).
I'll definitely be going in for 6 or so models in the hopes that if I just show up at my FLGS with them someone will be interested.

Yeah, I like that 5 minis is a full team (if you know others in your area are getting in to it) and 6 is two minimum teams (or so)

Also, @ Alpharius, 100% agreed on the cross-over, thought of that last night after posting that they were similar scale/look... a cross-over would be appropriate, and probably be the nudge I needed to go from likely to certainly getting this.

If they gave Poots a call and got a KD Virgin Sacrifice-type pin up model, this thing would jump, easy, about $20-$30k.

Especially if said cross-over model included a one shot challenge scenario for KD: Monster!

I have to ask......Why do they need a KD crossover mini? Why not just make a virgin sacrifice? KD is cool but damned if I think the entire crossover idea is a little silly. Arena Rex looks to be able to stand well enough on it's own. But ah well.....what do I know?

They don't "need" one, but for many of us, the cross-promotion between brands is fun and interesting. I enjoy having my Soda Pop Candy & Cola's in multiple ranges and styles. I'm also insanely stoked to get my Kingdom Death Kara.I Imagine it's the same as someone that collects statuetes, or Coca Cola bears, or Jim Shore angels. Hell, there's an entire Batman statue line (Black & White) devoted to sculpting the exact same character in a ton of different styles.

That doesn't mean the game can't stand well on it's own. But the fact remains that, while there is a game atttached, the Arena Rex stuff is MUCH MORE reminiscent of the "boutique" miniature that is becoming more popular and Kingdom Death really epitomizes. I'd say your miniatures fit in that very same category, save for the fact that they don't have a "game system" attached to them. With that being said, and if your line did have a game system, I'd LOVE to see your take on a more 'hard fantasy' Candy & Cola.

I'll agree with Cindydooley Tre,

crossover minis are fun (if done with love by a decent sculptor) because you get to see a different take on the same subject

I'd love to see what you would do with Candy & Cola, or Kara

or what one of your character sculpts like Yrsa would look like re-interpreted by somebody like Thomas David

(extra rules/scenarios etc are just a bonus)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll agree with Cindydooley Tre,

crossover minis are fun (if done with love by a decent sculptor) because you get to see a different take on the same subject

I'd love to see what you would do with Candy & Cola, or Kara

or what one of your character sculpts like Yrsa would look like re-interpreted by somebody like Thomas David

(extra rules/scenarios etc are just a bonus)

Actually, Tre, can you make this email to McVey and Poots? I'll send you my money right now.

oh the irony!

Yeah, to be honest games with 'pinups' and connections to other games that I don't also play would lose my money. It all becomes either an injoke (connections) or thinly disguised nerd-porn (pinups), at which point I lose interest. Count me as someone who just wants gladiator models in his gladiator game and is happy to see the guys behind this concentrating on, y'know, gladiator models.

 Charles Rampant wrote:
Yeah, to be honest games with 'pinups' and connections to other games that I don't also play would lose my money. It all becomes either an injoke (connections) or thinly disguised nerd-porn (pinups), at which point I lose interest. Count me as someone who just wants gladiator models in his gladiator game and is happy to see the guys behind this concentrating on, y'know, gladiator models.

Problem is though that this is a gladiator game! Half the body is usually exposed so there is a blurry line between pin up and "traditional" gladiator attire

Not to say cross over minis wont be a tad out of place, but I'd consider a few models a bit pin uppy already such as the new egyptian chick. Heck didnt some gladiator costumes expose the breasts of females? I could be wrong I suppose

Read the rules on their site, and becoming more and more interested in it.

However, is it stated anywhere which ludus each model is part of?

FWIW, those of you that off handedly discount the PinUps as nerd porn are missing the fact that they were originally, and continue to be, used for women's empowerment more than for any "pornographic" reasons.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Read the rules on their site, and becoming more and more interested in it.

However, is it stated anywhere which ludus each model is part of?

Not explicitly yet for all of them, but you can generally tell each Ludus by the aesthetics of the model.

There are also several posts on the KS form about which Ludus the Gladiators belong in. Currently its speculation, I beleive a clarification was forthcomming.

Well, really liking these designs... my will's pretty quickly collapsing, resisting this one...

I first read that as "Fridge Locked".

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
You should be OK iff you consider the proposed retail price of the figures

$17 KS up to $23
$21 KS up to $28

so the prices still looks to be a bit of a deal (and you'll get dice and rule book too)

I guess the real deciding factor is how much you get charged by your postal service to collect the VAT (here in the UK it's about £8-10)

$28 for a single figure post-Kickstarter? Are they serious?

That's just too high, I don't care if it's 35mm...

I think these companies should honestly do more like Mark at Dreamforge- not list the retail price, because how can they know for sure what they'll sell it for at this point? $28 is ludicrous for one model, to me...

Other than that, I really like the models. They're tempting, but not at that price...

They are, apparently, going with the KINGDOM DEATH pricing model for resin high quality/high detail figures.

Time will tell how successful they'll be, but so far, they look to be doing OK!

How much larger are the Field of Jupiter minis going to be compared to the Mars people anyways?

I should rephrase that- it's too high for me (even higher than Kingdom Death, right?). Clearly a certain number of people feel otherwise... I just don't get that pricing.

Understood!

It is the "Boutique" Resin thing, all over again.

Boutique! Resin!

It's like a dog whistle to my ears.

The Fields of Jupiter stuff will be on 40mm bases,

so I guess they will be a bit more bulky than the Field of Mars stuff

(and I'll agree the prices post KS are high, but IF the sculpts live up to the promise I'll probably still be tempted....

added box and/or art cards will help too but no words on how they'll be packed yet)

Yea, wow... when dollars per MM approach 1.0, I start getting a little squeamish. I like some fancy, boutique models, as much or more than most, but there was a good reason I never bought any KD stuff before the Kick Starter. I mean, for the price of two models you can get a whole unit box for most games, even GW! I am not saying that necessarily would or should disqualify a really nice model, but it does really make me think hard about the purchase :(