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 gnoise wrote:
I could be wrong with this (and I'm fairly sure I am), but someone once told me that GW sponsored tournaments forbid SoB male players from participating due to the fact that they are a dude? Again, this could just be that person pulling my leg but on the one in a million chance that he was being truthful...

They were just bullgakking you.


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 Static-Cat wrote:
In my small 30 years of lifespan, I've quickly learned that people feels the need to reassure that something won't happen only when there is actually a pretty good chance that it may happen in the first place.

What bizarre experience has led you to believe that? There are many people who are worried, irrationally or otherwise, about an unlikely risk.

Such as a child being afraid of the monster under their bed. Does reassuring them mean that there is likely actually a monster there, then?

 Melissia wrote:
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 Static-Cat wrote:
In my small 30 years of lifespan, I've quickly learned that people feels the need to reassure that something won't happen only when there is actually a pretty good chance that it may happen in the first place.

What bizarre experience has led you to believe that? There are many people who are worried, irrationally or otherwise, about an unlikely risk.

Such as a child being afraid of the monster under their bed. Does reassuring them mean that there is likely actually a monster there, then?

They're plenty stable as it is, pulling in a decent profit. So waiting to become stable is no reason/excuse.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If the Dreamforge Black Widows are a success, that might change things. If Mantic or AoW come up with a plastic kit for warrior nuns, that might change things. It seems like GW really only notices where the market is when someone else taps it first.

In addition to that, Raging Heroes is going to have a Sisters of Eternal Mercy Kickstarter in the future, in as well as everything they already make for female IG, and (D)Eldar.

And Hitech makes a semi-decent (which is unfortunate, considering I love the rest of their minis) female Terminator.

Raging Heroes has decent sculpts, but their posing is annoying at best, and frankly unrealistic at worst...

 tvih wrote:
They're plenty stable as it is, pulling in a decent profit. So waiting to become stable is no reason/excuse.

If they were stable enough, it wouldn't explain the multiple and drastic price jumps they had in the last years. The simple fact that the only way they have to make profits is by high-jacking their prices is a proof that GW isn't as healthy as simple numbers may tell.

If they were really rolling on the money, they wouldn't hesitate to lower their prices to boost demand and get nearer of the market potential (Where your production equals what clients buy).

Of course, if GW production capacities really diminished over the time, they may try to put high price tags to counter demand, but I somewhat doubt it. While it is normal that metal miniatures has gone up (by almost 10 times, to be exact), it doesn't really explains the price-boost on the Cadian Shock troop for half the plastic figurines that was in that same box. (20 Cadian for 30$ against 10 Cadians for 40$). Maybe that the metal ones cost so much that they were forced to compensate with the plastic figurines? I don't think so, but I still a possibility, I may be wrong.

Also, as I'm currently studying economics; there is a LOTS of ways to cheat your business health for people who aren't in the know-how.

Anyway, I'm sorry for my somewhat out-of-subject post.

 Static-Cat wrote:
If they were really rolling on the money, they wouldn't hesitate to lower their prices to boost demand and get nearer of the market potential (Where your production equals what clients buy).

You're assuming rational, intelligent decision making on GW's part.

Mind you, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your sentiments. Just saying... GW doesn't always make good business decisions.

 Melissia wrote:

 Static-Cat wrote:
If they were really rolling on the money, they wouldn't hesitate to lower their prices to boost demand and get nearer of the market potential (Where your production equals what clients buy).

You're assuming rational, intelligent decision making on GW's part.

Mind you, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your sentiments. Just saying... GW doesn't always make good business decisions.

No, I was hoping for intelligent decision making from their shareholder ... But I admit that I may be wrong there, lol.

I don't know which one is less likely to make rational decisions, CEOs or shareholders...

 Melissia wrote:
Raging Heroes has decent sculpts, but their posing is annoying at best, and frankly unrealistic at worst...

But at least they're trying. Realistic sculpts and poses are going to be a problem no matter who is making the models. Not to mention we play a fantasy game (sorry, sci-fi)... "unrealistic" is the least of our worries.

Some of them almost look like they were sculpted based off of a Rob Liefeld drawing.

Well, I see we are pulling no stops on insults here.

I did say SOME of them. Not all...

 Crimson wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Honestly, I'm scared of what modern GW might do with the SoBs if they made a new codex. FFG's supplement has a lot of neat background, and a new codex would flush it all away. Prepare to be blown away by the Ecclesiarchy's new, entirely benevolent dogma! Thrill to the exploits of Canoness Therese, who single-handedly converted an entire tomb world to the light of the Emperor! Change your underwear as you, er drool over the magnificence of Living Saint Celestine, who destroyed an Avatar, a Swarmlord, an Astartes chapter, and three whole Dwarf holds with her tears of pure devotion! (Sorry, Karak Kadrin. It was a good run.)

Don't FFG's Sisters have actual, honest to God-Emperor, magic? I think GWs Sisters fluff has been much more tolerable. Yes, even if we count ending up as armour paint.

I thought it was supposed to be a subtle form of thaumaturgy. You know, like Ned Flanders.

Considering their god is real, it makes as much sense as anything in the setting.

I could see the All the orders of the inquisition combined into one book where you can take GK, SOB, or whatever all int hte same codex. Maybe have restrictions on having SOB means no GK or something, but they end up making battle sisters and pentient engines just another troops choice/ heavy support choice for the Grey Knights to use. It could satisfy GW's business ploy and it could still allow the SOB fandom to remain. Probably, this is a stupid idea, but I am throwing it out there anyhow.

I dunno, if they release a proper codex ill probably pick it up to take a look but model-wise i don't think ill buy unless i REALLY like the 'dex due to forementioned problems (no squadpacks metal etc.)

 Da Kommizzar wrote:
I could see the All the orders of the inquisition combined into one book where you can take GK, SOB, or whatever all int hte same codex. Maybe have restrictions on having SOB means no GK or something, but they end up making battle sisters and pentient engines just another troops choice/ heavy support choice for the Grey Knights to use. It could satisfy GW's business ploy and it could still allow the SOB fandom to remain. Probably, this is a stupid idea, but I am throwing it out there anyhow.

It's been suggested time and time again. I doubt GW will go for it. They have actually moved in the opposite direction as far as Sisters go.

 Melissia wrote:

 Da Kommizzar wrote:
I could see the All the orders of the inquisition combined into one book where you can take GK, SOB, or whatever all int hte same codex. Maybe have restrictions on having SOB means no GK or something, but they end up making battle sisters and pentient engines just another troops choice/ heavy support choice for the Grey Knights to use. It could satisfy GW's business ploy and it could still allow the SOB fandom to remain. Probably, this is a stupid idea, but I am throwing it out there anyhow.

It's been suggested time and time again. I doubt GW will go for it. They have actually moved in the opposite direction as far as Sisters go.

Yeah pretty sure that is the old Witch hunters codex? When I suggested that they may get rolled into another codex, I meant maybe something like IG? Or maybe they'll shoe horn them into the new Mechanicus codex..

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 Melissia wrote:

 Da Kommizzar wrote:
I could see the All the orders of the inquisition combined into one book where you can take GK, SOB, or whatever all int hte same codex. Maybe have restrictions on having SOB means no GK or something, but they end up making battle sisters and pentient engines just another troops choice/ heavy support choice for the Grey Knights to use. It could satisfy GW's business ploy and it could still allow the SOB fandom to remain. Probably, this is a stupid idea, but I am throwing it out there anyhow.

It's been suggested time and time again. I doubt GW will go for it. They have actually moved in the opposite direction as far as Sisters go.

Yeah pretty sure that is the old Witch hunters codex? When I suggested that they may get rolled into another codex, I meant maybe something like IG? Or maybe they'll shoe horn them into the new Mechanicus codex..

What do you mean by something like IG? A book with lots of variation or simply more options than there are now (as i understand it they are very limited currently) but IG is by no means close to a multifactional book (unless this happened sometime in the far past)

 Somedude593 wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 Da Kommizzar wrote:
I could see the All the orders of the inquisition combined into one book where you can take GK, SOB, or whatever all int hte same codex. Maybe have restrictions on having SOB means no GK or something, but they end up making battle sisters and pentient engines just another troops choice/ heavy support choice for the Grey Knights to use. It could satisfy GW's business ploy and it could still allow the SOB fandom to remain. Probably, this is a stupid idea, but I am throwing it out there anyhow.

It's been suggested time and time again. I doubt GW will go for it. They have actually moved in the opposite direction as far as Sisters go.

Yeah pretty sure that is the old Witch hunters codex? When I suggested that they may get rolled into another codex, I meant maybe something like IG? Or maybe they'll shoe horn them into the new Mechanicus codex..

What do you mean by something like IG? A book with lots of variation or simply more options than there are now (as i understand it they are very limited currently) but IG is by no means close to a multifactional book (unless this happened sometime in the far past)

No by something like IG, I meant get rolled into IG, for the next release. It is highly unlikely, I'm just trying to call every option so when it happens I can say, called it

Actually, I was talking about the fifth edition "codex", which was split between two issues of White Dwarf.

Which separated Sisters from the Inquisition, effectively leaving the Inquisition to the Grey Knights codex and the Allies rules they no doubt had already planned in sixth edition (making it all the more bizarre the stupid debacle they had over the C:WH allies rules in fifth edition...).

Sisters have moved from having their own dedicated codex in second edition -> Witch Hunters added to the Sisters army in third edition -> Witch Hunters moved to Grey Knights and Sisters given their own codex again in fifth edition.

Ugh, again with the Inquisition stuff.

Sisters are NOT Inquisitorial troops.

Hell, even in C:WH, they weren't really an Inquisitorial force.

 Melissia wrote:
Hell, even in C:WH, they weren't really an Inquisitorial force.

Which is why it was called C:WH not C: Inquisition, prehaps they'll be added to new BT codex?

That's really desperate.

 Melissia wrote:
That's really desperate.

Yeah I should stop suggesting silly things, incase GW is listening in.....

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 Melissia wrote:
Hell, even in C:WH, they weren't really an Inquisitorial force.

Which is why it was called C:WH not C: Inquisition, prehaps they'll be added to new BT codex?

Codex: Religious Nutjobs? Hey, that's an idea that could work if we had a competent writer. Of course, if we did this issue wouldn't exist in the first place, eh?

I still think GW should have done one Codex for Inquisitorial forces or do an "addon" codex that allows all Imperal forces to take various Inquisitors, one codex for Grey Knights, one codex for Deathwatch, and a codex for Ecclesiarchy forces to include Adepta Sororitas.


The Adepta Sororitas are not the official military arm of the Ordo Hereticus, but they do often serve as such. Another option would be to do a Codex for each Ordo and include their military arms within them ie Ordo Malleus + Grey Knights, Ordo Xenos + Deathwatch, and Ordo Hereticus + Witch Hunters + additional Ecclesiarchy units.


I don't have any issues with the Adepta Sorotitas serving as the military arm of the Ordo Hereticus. I've noticed some people appear to do. All I can say fluff is fluid and everchanging.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Codex: Religious Nutjobs?

That would include the majority of the IoM.

The most likely thing to happen, imo, is a dedicated codex that's kind of slipped in alongside some other under-played faction.

So about six years ago I decided to start saving up for a sisters of battle army. I put aside some cash every month and, at first, was setting aside quite bit. But as time went on I started to put aside less and less and now I've quit because I can't fathom adding more money to a large sum that would probably buy me an apocalypse army outright. So here we are, 6th ed 40k and I'm still waiting for plastics.