Evileyes wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Tiger9gamer wrote:

 KillerSkivil wrote:
I would have to answer, the person who when they loose 1 model they think they have lost the game, in my local area we have a couple of these, they are THE worst kind of player to have a game against as any level of fun you were going to have is lost the moment you start winning or even if you kill the thing they were relying on to win the game for them they just give up and ruin your fun

I have to admit, this is where I struggle Mostly it's just seeing all the enemy models on the table, and then seeing how you have one less Vindicator to take care of them. It's kind of hard to think of some ways to win, Even when I have the Rest of my army right behind that one tank.

Sometimes I've been known to surrender when it looks hopeless. It's a really bad habit.

There's always hope until the game ends on its own. Why, I once managed a draw with nothing but a single Space Marine Scout with a sniper rifle, and Saint Celestine left in my force by the end of the game. This was up against a mob of around 15 Boyz (down from starting with 20), 12 Lootas, a Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, and a pair of Killa Kanz in separate squadrons.

My Scout was parked behind a Defence Line in cover from everything else on the board, going to ground at every possible opportunity to get that nice, 2+ cover save. He was just barely holding onto the objective worth 4 points. The Boyz mob was trying to string out between 2 objectives, but Celestine charged into the middle of them to pull them away from the objectives with their mandatory combat pile-in. The Lootas and Big Mek were perched up high, the Killa Kanz on the ground, all blasting away with everything they had at my Scout for at least 2 turns solid after they'd slaughtered his squad-mates. He made every single cover save. After the game I calculated the odds of him making every one of those 2+ cover saves. Turned out to be roughly 6 in 1,000 (0.6%) if I remember right.

With all the secondary objectives considered, it came out as a draw. ^^ So never give up.

If it helps, they made it so you can only score one objective per troops choice now, so no more konga-scoring

 pwntallica wrote:

 Tod wrote:

 Dr. What wrote:
The one who tells you that the rule from your codex, which he has never read, is wrong.

Example:

My Orks call a WAAAGH! I explain what it does (fleet).

Reply: No, you're wrong. Fleet sucks in 6th. You can only use it with running units. He then proceeds to pull my codex from my hands and yank the book page by page until he finds the rule (which took an age), then has to look up fleet in his own rulebook before allowing me to proceed.

It was an irritating game.

You won't believe the amount of times this has happened to me...

Had someone grab my SM codex out of my hand so roughly once that it pulled out a chunk of 6 or 8 pages. I looked at him mortified, expecting some quick follow up "oh my god I'm so sorry!". Instead he tossed the rest of my codex aside (to the ground no less) as what he was looking for was in the pages in his hand. He read it over as everyone else in the game store just stared at him. Finally he says "well I guess that's right", and drops the pages onto my codex (still on the ground) then turns to me with a plain look on his face waiting for me to continue my play. When I called him on the damage to my book, he just calmly picked it up, crammed the pages back in and said "it's fine".

Trying to stay calm myself, I calmly start to pack up my models. Everyone is still watching dead silent. As soon as he realized what I was doing he goes "so you forfeit huh? *chuckle*", and I just said nothing. Then he proceeded to FREAK out. Saying I had to tell him he won because I was giving up and quitting, and blaming it all on me because I was trying to cheat (to be honest, I don't even remember what the original rule was we were trying to look up). I kept saying nothing, then he snatched at one of my units I was trying to pack up, and I thought it was going to get physical, which was funny because I had about 60-80 pounds on this guy (he was about 5'8", late teens early 20s, and maybe 150lb wet. I on the other hand am 5'11" 220lb, some fat, mostly muscle as I worked construction at the time). But I kept my cool the whole time just kept cleaning my other units.

Finally all that was left for me to pack was the stuff he snatched. I asked him calmly for them (the first thing I said since he started freaking out) and he said he wouldn't give them back to me until I admitted he won. Not wanting to fight, with everyone still frozen watching, I said "ok you won". He throws the models at me! They were my metal vanguard vets (I know they suck but I love them and put a lot of conversion work on them). I desperately try to calmly pick up the pieces, as he starts talking trash about "oh god I owned you so hard noob". I don't even know what he was saying, I was just trying not to see red.

Then someone else in the store tells him he was losing and I was only packing up because he was throwing a tantrum. In response to that he starts yelling at her and me. When I ignore him and try to give her a look to do the same, HE FLIPS THE TABLE AT ME! Funny part was only his models were left on it. Finally the owner (a HUGE bald guy) grabs him and drags him out the door. He screams outside as the owner wont let him come back in, even to get his models. While we were picking up his models so he would go away (this taking about 20 minutes while he screamed outside at the owner) the cops show up, and while everyone cheered, they arrested him.

Never heard from him again, and the owner kept most of his army to cover the damages to the table, and gave me some of them.

And that's the story of why I have 6 fire warriors.

 pwntallica wrote:

 Tod wrote:

 Dr. What wrote:
The one who tells you that the rule from your codex, which he has never read, is wrong.

Example:

My Orks call a WAAAGH! I explain what it does (fleet).

Reply: No, you're wrong. Fleet sucks in 6th. You can only use it with running units. He then proceeds to pull my codex from my hands and yank the book page by page until he finds the rule (which took an age), then has to look up fleet in his own rulebook before allowing me to proceed.

It was an irritating game.

You won't believe the amount of times this has happened to me...

Had someone grab my SM codex out of my hand so roughly once that it pulled out a chunk of 6 or 8 pages. I looked at him mortified, expecting some quick follow up "oh my god I'm so sorry!". Instead he tossed the rest of my codex aside (to the ground no less) as what he was looking for was in the pages in his hand. He read it over as everyone else in the game store just stared at him. Finally he says "well I guess that's right", and drops the pages onto my codex (still on the ground) then turns to me with a plain look on his face waiting for me to continue my play. When I called him on the damage to my book, he just calmly picked it up, crammed the pages back in and said "it's fine".

Trying to stay calm myself, I calmly start to pack up my models. Everyone is still watching dead silent. As soon as he realized what I was doing he goes "so you forfeit huh? *chuckle*", and I just said nothing. Then he proceeded to FREAK out. Saying I had to tell him he won because I was giving up and quitting, and blaming it all on me because I was trying to cheat (to be honest, I don't even remember what the original rule was we were trying to look up). I kept saying nothing, then he snatched at one of my units I was trying to pack up, and I thought it was going to get physical, which was funny because I had about 60-80 pounds on this guy (he was about 5'8", late teens early 20s, and maybe 150lb wet. I on the other hand am 5'11" 220lb, some fat, mostly muscle as I worked construction at the time). But I kept my cool the whole time just kept cleaning my other units.

Finally all that was left for me to pack was the stuff he snatched. I asked him calmly for them (the first thing I said since he started freaking out) and he said he wouldn't give them back to me until I admitted he won. Not wanting to fight, with everyone still frozen watching, I said "ok you won". He throws the models at me! They were my metal vanguard vets (I know they suck but I love them and put a lot of conversion work on them). I desperately try to calmly pick up the pieces, as he starts talking trash about "oh god I owned you so hard noob". I don't even know what he was saying, I was just trying not to see red.

Then someone else in the store tells him he was losing and I was only packing up because he was throwing a tantrum. In response to that he starts yelling at her and me. When I ignore him and try to give her a look to do the same, HE FLIPS THE TABLE AT ME! Funny part was only his models were left on it. Finally the owner (a HUGE bald guy) grabs him and drags him out the door. He screams outside as the owner wont let him come back in, even to get his models. While we were picking up his models so he would go away (this taking about 20 minutes while he screamed outside at the owner) the cops show up, and while everyone cheered, they arrested him.

Never heard from him again, and the owner kept most of his army to cover the damages to the table, and gave me some of them.

And that's the story of why I have 6 fire warriors.

NoArmorSave wrote:

 pwntallica wrote:

 Tod wrote:

 Dr. What wrote:
The one who tells you that the rule from your codex, which he has never read, is wrong.

Example:

My Orks call a WAAAGH! I explain what it does (fleet).

Reply: No, you're wrong. Fleet sucks in 6th. You can only use it with running units. He then proceeds to pull my codex from my hands and yank the book page by page until he finds the rule (which took an age), then has to look up fleet in his own rulebook before allowing me to proceed.

It was an irritating game.

You won't believe the amount of times this has happened to me...

* See above for my long earlier story*

You are a much calmer man than I am. Kudos on keeping your self composure. I would have hurt the guy, probably severly.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Wonder how he tells the story of his awesome victory. Probably involves a fist fight and three of you.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
Overweight players.

 Color Sgt. Kell wrote:
The overly competitive ones that try to cheat and rush the game so fast you can't tell what they're doing. I know a few

Had someone grab my SM codex out of my hand so roughly once that it pulled out a chunk of 6 or 8 pages. I looked at him mortified, expecting some quick follow up "oh my god I'm so sorry!". Instead he tossed the rest of my codex aside (to the ground no less) as what he was looking for was in the pages in his hand. He read it over as everyone else in the game store just stared at him. Finally he says "well I guess that's right", and drops the pages onto my codex (still on the ground) then turns to me with a plain look on his face waiting for me to continue my play. When I called him on the damage to my book, he just calmly picked it up, crammed the pages back in and said "it's fine".

Trying to stay calm myself, I calmly start to pack up my models. Everyone is still watching dead silent. As soon as he realized what I was doing he goes "so you forfeit huh? *chuckle*", and I just said nothing. Then he proceeded to FREAK out. Saying I had to tell him he won because I was giving up and quitting, and blaming it all on me because I was trying to cheat (to be honest, I don't even remember what the original rule was we were trying to look up). I kept saying nothing, then he snatched at one of my units I was trying to pack up, and I thought it was going to get physical, which was funny because I had about 60-80 pounds on this guy (he was about 5'8", late teens early 20s, and maybe 150lb wet. I on the other hand am 5'11" 220lb, some fat, mostly muscle as I worked construction at the time). But I kept my cool the whole time just kept cleaning my other units.

Finally all that was left for me to pack was the stuff he snatched. I asked him calmly for them (the first thing I said since he started freaking out) and he said he wouldn't give them back to me until I admitted he won. Not wanting to fight, with everyone still frozen watching, I said "ok you won". He throws the models at me! They were my metal vanguard vets (I know they suck but I love them and put a lot of conversion work on them). I desperately try to calmly pick up the pieces, as he starts talking trash about "oh god I owned you so hard noob". I don't even know what he was saying, I was just trying not to see red.

Then someone else in the store tells him he was losing and I was only packing up because he was throwing a tantrum. In response to that he starts yelling at her and me. When I ignore him and try to give her a look to do the same, HE FLIPS THE TABLE AT ME! Funny part was only his models were left on it. Finally the owner (a HUGE bald guy) grabs him and drags him out the door. He screams outside as the owner wont let him come back in, even to get his models. While we were picking up his models so he would go away (this taking about 20 minutes while he screamed outside at the owner) the cops show up, and while everyone cheered, they arrested him.

Never heard from him again, and the owner kept most of his army to cover the damages to the table, and gave me some of them.

And that's the story of why I have 6 fire warriors.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Rule of thumb: Never pick someone's model up without permission. You might break it and then you'll be in trouble.

>< Had this problem in a big apocalypse game in the store once, back when they still ran games in there. The Manager had the bright idea of using party poppers for random barrages, the idea being that you aimed it at the ceiling and whatever the strings landed on got hit by the blast. It was his way of breaking up the fact that he hadn't explained the mission properly, resulting in one table that was literally a parking lot of tanks in front of a wall with a daemon prince on it, and two tables with some scattered infantry (he told us it was a "three table game"... turned out that we needed to destroy objectives on the other two tables before we could do anything on the table with the daemon prince). Which, while it was funny when we then took out Valkyries and Vendettas full of Veterans to go and blow up the shield generators because of unlimited flier movement in Apocalypse and then had enough firepower to take down an Emperor Titan (there were like six Shadowswords parked next to each other!) all aimed at this itty bitty Daemon Prince... someone had the bright idea to give the spawn (small children) the party poppers.

I was literally half a second away from having one set off directly under the wing of my converted Vendetta, which would probably have knocked the wing off and shattered something - like the resin Guardsmen who had just jumped out of it onto the table below. Having to explain wargaming etiquette to a six year old. >< joy.

 KillerSkivil wrote:
I would have to answer, the person who when they loose 1 model they think they have lost the game, in my local area we have a couple of these, they are THE worst kind of player to have a game against as any level of fun you were going to have is lost the moment you start winning or even if you kill the thing they were relying on to win the game for them they just give up and ruin your fun

another thing i would say is the kind of player who cannot take a joke, i honestly don't know why these people even play as it is a game, even if you play it competitively there is a sense of humour needed to make it enjoyable.

in general i dislike anyone who removes any sense of fun from the game, i play for fun when if i play competitively its not to win it is purely for the joy of playing the game and having fun.

Aside: Something that bugs me too are the people that complain when others do not know the rules perfectly. I think you should remember that while 40k is not exactly complicated it does have a -lot- of special rules, some players are newer to the game than others, and physiology varies from person to person. The point being that some people are simply able to memorize more than others, some have more time to do so, and (heck) some have played so long that the editions literally begin to bleed together in their memory. If someone forgets a rule just politely point it out and move on. No need to be a jerk over it

 wowsmash wrote:

 pwntallica wrote:

 Tod wrote:

 Dr. What wrote:
The one who tells you that the rule from your codex, which he has never read, is wrong.

Example:

My Orks call a WAAAGH! I explain what it does (fleet).

Reply: No, you're wrong. Fleet sucks in 6th. You can only use it with running units. He then proceeds to pull my codex from my hands and yank the book page by page until he finds the rule (which took an age), then has to look up fleet in his own rulebook before allowing me to proceed.

It was an irritating game.

You won't believe the amount of times this has happened to me...

Had someone grab my SM codex out of my hand so roughly once that it pulled out a chunk of 6 or 8 pages. I looked at him mortified, expecting some quick follow up "oh my god I'm so sorry!". Instead he tossed the rest of my codex aside (to the ground no less) as what he was looking for was in the pages in his hand. He read it over as everyone else in the game store just stared at him. Finally he says "well I guess that's right", and drops the pages onto my codex (still on the ground) then turns to me with a plain look on his face waiting for me to continue my play. When I called him on the damage to my book, he just calmly picked it up, crammed the pages back in and said "it's fine".

Trying to stay calm myself, I calmly start to pack up my models. Everyone is still watching dead silent. As soon as he realized what I was doing he goes "so you forfeit huh? *chuckle*", and I just said nothing. Then he proceeded to FREAK out. Saying I had to tell him he won because I was giving up and quitting, and blaming it all on me because I was trying to cheat (to be honest, I don't even remember what the original rule was we were trying to look up). I kept saying nothing, then he snatched at one of my units I was trying to pack up, and I thought it was going to get physical, which was funny because I had about 60-80 pounds on this guy (he was about 5'8", late teens early 20s, and maybe 150lb wet. I on the other hand am 5'11" 220lb, some fat, mostly muscle as I worked construction at the time). But I kept my cool the whole time just kept cleaning my other units.

Finally all that was left for me to pack was the stuff he snatched. I asked him calmly for them (the first thing I said since he started freaking out) and he said he wouldn't give them back to me until I admitted he won. Not wanting to fight, with everyone still frozen watching, I said "ok you won". He throws the models at me! They were my metal vanguard vets (I know they suck but I love them and put a lot of conversion work on them). I desperately try to calmly pick up the pieces, as he starts talking trash about "oh god I owned you so hard noob". I don't even know what he was saying, I was just trying not to see red.

Then someone else in the store tells him he was losing and I was only packing up because he was throwing a tantrum. In response to that he starts yelling at her and me. When I ignore him and try to give her a look to do the same, HE FLIPS THE TABLE AT ME! Funny part was only his models were left on it. Finally the owner (a HUGE bald guy) grabs him and drags him out the door. He screams outside as the owner wont let him come back in, even to get his models. While we were picking up his models so he would go away (this taking about 20 minutes while he screamed outside at the owner) the cops show up, and while everyone cheered, they arrested him.

Never heard from him again, and the owner kept most of his army to cover the damages to the table, and gave me some of them.

And that's the story of why I have 6 fire warriors.

wow grats on being able to hold your temper so well. I would deffenatly use those fire warriors as casualties on your next models you build for the army.

 Evileyes wrote:
Ohhhhhh I hate that. You spend a long time on an army, and captain smug waddles over and talks about how badly painted your army is. Made much worse when my own captain smug doesn't even play the game, I think he just comes to the club to say how bad he thinks everyone's models are. He then tries to laugh it off, when i'm just going "...Huh...I spent hours on that...well now i'm sad..."

I'm a naturally paranoid person, so when someone criticizes my army out of the blue, it makes me really sad cause I dwell on it for hours, and then don't enjoy my game as much.

 Evileyes wrote:
The one's who don't shower for weeks on end.

 Hadarac wrote:

 Evileyes wrote:
The one's who don't shower for weeks on end.

Says a nurgling

 Evileyes wrote:

 Hadarac wrote:

 Evileyes wrote:
The one's who don't shower for weeks on end.

Says a nurgling

I'm not a nurgling, i'm at least a foot taller than a nurgling!

 Blackskullandy wrote:

 Evileyes wrote:

 Hadarac wrote:

 Evileyes wrote:
The one's who don't shower for weeks on end.

Says a nurgling

I'm not a nurgling, i'm at least a foot taller than a nurgling!

A nurglet perhaps?

 Monsieur_Maladroit wrote:
Cheaters and powergamers, in that order