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Yup I'm pretty sure they said they'd look at wildcard and one of the Judwan

Wildcard didn't seem to change at all (tho the terrible photo makes it hard to tell)

The Judwan was straightened up on the circle base but that's about it,

At best they'll fiddle with the detail, but don't expect major changes in style (or a move towards the art)

(didn't follow KOW in detail so I can't say about that)


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Edit: Stupid forum double posting

edlowe wrote:
Got a fair bit of negative feedback today in the comments, id suggested some one faction bundle deals for people looking a dz as a starting point for warpath.

Should be a new update shortly, hopefully improve the mood

Yeah I felt bad for ya buddy. You came in right after someone stirred up the pack

 judgedoug wrote:
Thank you CptJake, this quote is my favorite bit

"These models haven't come out as we intended them to, so we're going to re-work the Orx (change the poses, change some of the detail, etc) based on the feedback we've received. "

Which restores some faith. I will reserve final judgment if they do indeed go back to re-work the Orx.

Aye, thanks for posting that! As others have said I doubt very much if we will get a complete re-working of concept (which would perhaps be unreasonable.. it seems many here do prefer the 'giant ape' style of orx, rather than the KoW ones) but even if they made an extra sculpt or two, or changed some details, that would be something.

The DreadBall ones look fine. It's about sculpt quality for some of us, rather than overall style.

Wow...500k update adds 2 new starters, and lets you add any one starter to a strike team pledge. Pretty solid IMO.

Wow...that sure showed the "Strike Team doesn't get enough stuff" they were full of crap lol. Plus TWO NEW FACTIONS for $50.....awesome

Oh the agony of choice....
Lets face it, it's going to be forge fathers.
Looking good, hope it makes the pledge level soon, I want to see more FF stuff.

Will the $50 starter sets have stretches added?

What the hell, we don't get both starters in the strike team?

I kid, looking forward to more info on these factions and strike team (or 3... *whistles*) is great value.

Earth Dragon wrote:
Wow...that sure showed the "Strike Team doesn't get enough stuff" they were full of crap lol. Plus TWO NEW FACTIONS for $50.....awesome

erm, you might want to pull your head in a little bit. People discuss what's available at the time based on the information available at the time. "lol"



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I'm not seeing where these "free factions" fit in at all? Well, as add-ons they're pretty straightforward but not seeing where they fit in as "free"?

Whoa, this is a very good deal from Mantic. Question is whether I should get more enforcers or branch out into Asterians?

While I quite liked the Dreadball idea of giving away a couple of players from each team I like this a whole lot more, especially if we start to see more add ons for the new factions.

The asterians concepts arts are great. Eager to see how they turn out.

 Azazelx wrote:

I'm not seeing where these "free factions" fit in at all? Well, as add-ons they're pretty straightforward but not seeing where they fit in as "free"?

All Strike Teams get their choice of faction starter for free (+$10 for shipping if it's one of the new ones). Quote from update 37:

To celebrate this goal we will add One Free Faction Starter Of Your Choice (Miniatures PLUS Faction Card Deck) to game pledges of Strike Team ($150) and up*.

It's an interesting option, and good show to Mantic, but I'm still on the fence about how I want to proceed.

 Azazelx wrote:

Earth Dragon wrote:
Wow...that sure showed the "Strike Team doesn't get enough stuff" they were full of crap lol. Plus TWO NEW FACTIONS for $50.....awesome

erm, you might want to pull your head in a little bit. People discuss what's available at the time based on the information available at the time. "lol"

Whatever dude. The point is there is stuff constantly being added to it and those fools over-reacted to 30k worth of measly stretch goals.

Just hold on to your damn butts next time.

nm. found it:

To celebrate this goal we will add One Free Faction Starter Of Your Choice (Miniatures PLUS Faction Card Deck) to game pledges of Strike Team ($150) and up*.

to the person who asked whether thenew faction starters get freebies from stretch goals, it says yes in the update.

its Mantics refusal to post multiple stretch goals. If, instead, they had posted "450k terrain options, 460k add-on mini, 475k something with freebie" it would have been received better. It's their own sense of mystery that's hurting retention.

same strategy they used for kow and dreadball, same strategy as cmon used mostly... didn't hurt either of them so I don't subscribe to this.

streetsamurai wrote:
The asterians concepts arts are great. Eager to see how they turn out.

A "not-eldar" perhaps, but look far superior. This update is basically space elves and space dwarves actually hahaha. Not that I mind.

decker_cky wrote:
Will the $50 starter sets have stretches added?

Yes. It says more specialists will come later.

streetsamurai wrote:
The asterians concepts arts are great. Eager to see how they turn out.

With my luck they'll end up as peaceful hippy elves to go with the happy dancey orks...



Just kidding. The concepts look decent. I hope the poses are a little more dynamic/in the middle of a firefight looking.

This is a pretty awesome stretch goal. Think I will add $50 and get both the Forge Fathers and Asterians plus add a second set of Enforcers or Rebs or Plague...

Yeah, I'm upping by $50 too, it's a no-brainer add-on.

Don't forget the 2 new factions will be expanded via stretch goals as this progresses, same as the initial four.

Another tempting option is 2x Strike Team, to get both the forgefathers and asterians for free as well as doubling up on the initial four + all the terrain and mats + other bits.

Yep seems to make more sense to add $50 for the EU bundle and double up on an existing faction as your effectively getting the extra existing faction for $15
If you want any add ones at all for a current faction it makes more sense

Earth Dragon wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

Earth Dragon wrote:
Wow...that sure showed the "Strike Team doesn't get enough stuff" they were full of crap lol. Plus TWO NEW FACTIONS for $50.....awesome

erm, you might want to pull your head in a little bit. People discuss what's available at the time based on the information available at the time. "lol"

Whatever dude. The point is there is stuff constantly being added to it and those fools over-reacted to 30k worth of measly stretch goals.

Just hold on to your damn butts next time.

Really? Calling people fools for pointing out a lack of value (reasonable) that was enhanced by what many perceived as poor sculpts for one of the factions seems a bit overblown. Many people also noted that things could change but at the moment the value still wasn't there.

By the way, another starter is cool. The ability to pick whatever extra starter you want has officially made the Strike level mostly worthwhile again. Which was a good move after the Orx issue. I'm still of the opinion that many of the add-ons are priced to high to dive in on without actual sculpts based on Mantics track record.

 Yonan wrote:

streetsamurai wrote:
The asterians concepts arts are great. Eager to see how they turn out.

A "not-eldar" perhaps, but look far superior. This update is basically space elves and space dwarves actually hahaha. Not that I mind.

I think that the fact that the army is mostly composed of robots, give them a different feel than elves in space.

The squats are crappy boring dorfs in space tough, but well a lot of people seems to like them

Quite liking the Asterian concepts so far, they have a real Eldar crossed with Protoss (starcraft) feel to them, but still have their own distinct flair which sets them apart. So glad they didn't turn out to be just "not-Eldar", oh and Forge fathers are nice, I'm sure Pacific will be buying a bucket full.

All in all very happy so far.

So, since I took the earlybird $148, I get to choose one free faction of my choice (asterians) and if I'm interested (I am) I can add on $45 for an expanded universe faction. That sound right?

 Black Nexus wrote:
to the person who asked whether thenew faction starters get freebies from stretch goals, it says yes in the update.

its Mantics refusal to post multiple stretch goals. If, instead, they had posted "450k terrain options, 460k add-on mini, 475k something with freebie" it would have been received better. It's their own sense of mystery that's hurting retention.

same strategy they used for kow and dreadball, same strategy as cmon used mostly... didn't hurt either of them so I don't subscribe to this.

Yet the last two days were self evidence it DID hurt a bit. The plan may need slight adjustments and I've definitely stated it was an over-reaction to the situation by those guys jumping ship cause there was no constant freebie.

I'm not saying there isn't plus sides, but someone pondered the reason, and I gave a big one, at least one that applies to Americans as we require constant maintenance and entertainment.

The thing is, it's not really 'for free' it is, "get Forge Father or Asterians for another 10 dollars."

So, it seems to me, it's not really worth adding anything on right now in my mind (especially since I already 'estimated high' on my initial bid), as it entirely depends on whether I'm going to want to buy any more shipment 2 items, which presumably will require the 10 dollar shipment 2 charge.

It might actually be a bit more foot shooting now.

If you treat it as a, "shipment 2 = 10 dollars" then someone, eg me, will be tempted to just go for the 1st shipment then never bother with anything else.

Or, just go for something like the FF/Ast double pack. - Which, I'm probably wrong in saying, does not APPEAR to have the "Shipment 2 charge" on it?

 Barzam wrote:
So, since I took the earlybird $148, I get to choose one free faction of my choice (asterians) and if I'm interested (I am) I can add on $45 for an expanded universe faction. That sound right?

$10 for the second wave faction freebie, and $35 for the other

Spot on my man

Or, add $50.00 for both new factions via the bundle deal (which includes shipping), and pick your favorite existing faction for the free one. This is what I currently intend to do.

~Eric