Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - Completed! - $1,216,482 final total.

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**scarletsquig**

Another battlezone mock-up from me, now in glorious 3D!

In case anyone is curious, 2 of the barricades convert into a wall piece perfectly, leaving hexagonal shaped half windows on each side.

**Lansirill**

Geez Squig, how much is Mantic paying you for this? They should double it. Now, of course, doubling zero is still zero, but I definitely appreciate all the effort you put into promoting their stuff.

Is there any software you're using to make the mock-ups? Might be fun to play around with seeing what I could do myself if it's not too hard.

**highlord tamburlaine**

My gripe is that I get the stories as a PDF.

I'd rather have a physical copy, and one that I don't have to print out myself.

As a bonus they ought to toss in a bunch of artwork to make it look nice and purdy.

Hopefully we get some more updates while we limp along to the next battlezone.

**scarletsquig**

Lansirill wrote:
Geez Squig, how much is Mantic paying you for this? They should double it. Now, of course, doubling zero is still zero, but I definitely appreciate all the effort you put into promoting their stuff.

Is there any software you're using to make the mock-ups? Might be fun to play around with seeing what I could do myself if it's not too hard.

Just google sketchup (free software), only need to use the move and rotate tool, dead easy once you've got your head around it (if you're new to 3d modelling this generally involves about an hour or two of cursing and "this is impossible!" before it all starts to click, the learning curve is steep but quick). And yeah, it is a lot of fun, like playing with lego... or a slightly more complicated minecraft.

I didn't make the tiles, those were made by Daedle over on the Mantic forums, here's a link to download the sketchup file containing them all: http://www.filesnack.com/files/ctunqnpz

**Krinsath**

We will see that Equarian merc sooner than later at this rate.

I do appreciate the effort you put in even if I'm still waffling on this or WarPath.

**Barzam**

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Barzam wrote:
I think it would have been a better idea for the short stories to have been a far earlier stretch. There was a very long period at the beginning where we didn't have any stretch goals. Something like this, with no tangible product I think would've been better to have had back then, or sandwiched between a pair of miniature stretches, like the Asterian/FF one.

Guys... think of this as a 30k stretch-goal to the ruined terrain, with the short-story anthology being a given that just happens to be included along-the-way.

I began talking about the short-stories, well before this stretch-goal. It was always planned, and the Mantic folks probably just felt like this was a healthy time to announce it formally. :-)

Oh, and while I know many of you aren't excited for the goal, I encourage you to give it a chance anyway. I think you might be surprised by some of the flavor versus bombastic, often silly 40k. I mean, I am currently pitching a very small, intimate story with a lot of thought, and human sentiment. Its the kind of story you'd never be allowed to do under GW.

Don't misunderstand, I wasn't actually complaining. I just feel it would have been better placed earlier in the campaign.

I did see in the comments, Mantic has mentioned that the Ruins will be the last of the Basttlescape (or whatever it's called) terrain unlocks and that after that, we're hitting miniature stretches again.

**Alpharius**

Creator Mantic Games about 1 hour ago

@ Jack - DreadBall was trending to $400,000-$500,000 at this point in time during that campaign.

The ruins will be one of the last battlezones offered, mainly miniatures from here on out!

Well, that's good news... I think!

**Salacious Greed**

scarletsquig wrote:
Another battlezone mock-up from me, now in glorious 3D!

In case anyone is curious, 2 of the barricades convert into a wall piece perfectly, leaving hexagonal shaped half windows on each side.

Squig, are there going to be enough of the support pieces to hold all that roof And the "bridge"? That's my main concern, their sprue pics don't show any of the smaller connector pieces, and only 4 roof, balcony, bridge, walkway pieces per sprue, so it will be interesting to see exactly what you can model with this stuff, and just how well it will hold together without glue. If you've heard anything, especially if they've been playing with actual plastic pieces, we'd love to know.

**Barzam**

Since there seems to be someone from Mantic actively posting right now, I thought I'd go ahead and ask him a question. I was wondering if Mantic had considered doing any kind of sneak preview figures kind of like how Dreamforge did with their Shadowkesh. The answer I got is that they have considered it, did do it with dreadball, and have plans for something towards the end of this KS.

**Alpharius**

So... you survived?
Update #47 · May 20, 2013 · 3 comments

Well well, two stretches in a space of two days and one not so far away at all… it’s going well guys, very well! Can we hit two in a day?

Up next we have the Ruined Buildings sprue, one of the last BattleZones we will be doing.

The Ruins are designed to add more character to your buildings and more cover for your battlefield, allowing to depict a scarred Warzone succumbing to the effects of battle - perfect for staging many of the city fights and street crawls Deadzone allows you to play.

So far we’ve shown off some early concepts for the damaged tiles but the ruined frame will go much further than this...

We want to add pieces that depict areas of cover, solid pieces of strewn rubble and broken girders for your models to hide behind, broken barricades and other details that really brings the character out of your battlefield.

If you have suggestions for what you want to see, please feel free to drop them into the comments.

You'll be able to choose the Ruined BattleZone as part of a scenery-only pledge or scenery add-on, such as Urban Skirmish ($50)

From there, we’ll be scenery free for a while (though of course we think Strike Team could use another Buildings Sprue or two…) whilst we focus on fleshing out the Asterians and the Forge Fathers, as well as detail more unique characters to keep Doctor Simmonds company.

The Asterians and Forge Fathers will be getting more troops and more equipment, such as Brokkrs, Shield Drones, Mining laser and more… then of course the mighty Headhunter might even make an appearance!

Simmonds is look rather lonely with it just being her and the Survivor (I suspect she's pretty jealous of his resistance to the Plague...) - she could use a few few characterful friends!

We’ll also be showing off new photography and more sculpts as we break into the last ten days of the campaign.

Speaking of which, here is a work in progress shot of The Survivor, straight from the sculptor's desk.

Not only that but we will be bringing out the Deadzone Beta rules on Wednesday, an improved set of rules tweaked according to your feedback. We think you’re going to like the tweaked turn activation system

Some interesting tidbits in there...

**Ronin_eX**

Alpharius wrote:
Creator Mantic Games about 1 hour ago

@ Jack - DreadBall was trending to $400,000-$500,000 at this point in time during that campaign.

The ruins will be one of the last battlezones offered, mainly miniatures from here on out!

Well, that's good news... I think!

For that matter, Robotech was trending to 800k during mid-campaign as well.

Looking at KoW and DB, they didn't tend to enter a ramp-up phase until the last 10-12 days. So best just to sit back and wait.

**Black Nexus**

kicktraq isn't an accurate indicator of where the total will end up, it's massively skewed by the big opening day and doesn't take into account the big finish most miniatures kickstarters experience. how could the software now that kingdom death would do a quarter of it's final total on the last day?

PS: Love the survivor, great model.

**Commander Cain**

The Survivor looks fantastic! Reminds me of a Studio McVey sculpt, can't place it though...

**Azazelx**

Alpharius wrote:

Speaking of which, here is a work in progress shot of The Survivor, straight from the sculptor's desk.

Nice model overall, but he must be a real pinhead under that helmet.

**scarletsquig**

Not pinhead, just truescale sculpting.

Very refreshing to see.

Oh, and Mantic hired a new full-time in-house sculptor, he starts work this week and his first assignment is "fix the Marauders".

Poor bloke. I wouldn't want that job!

**PsychoticStorm**

They could save much time by simply redoing them.

Fixing them would be a minor miracle.

**Taarnak**

Scarletsquig: Any idea who the new guy is yet?

~Eric

**Azazelx**

scarletsquig wrote:
Not pinhead, just truescale sculpting.

Very refreshing

Sigh. Have you ever actually worn a helmet? How big do you think that guy's head must be under that thing? It's not truescale, it's reverse heroic scale...

**CptJake**

Azazelx wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
Not pinhead, just truescale sculpting.

Very refreshing

Sigh. Have you ever actually worn a helmet? How big do you think that guy's head must be under that thing? It's not truescale, it's reverse heroic scale...

Yep. Compare helmet to torso and this dude has a teensy noggin.

**BobtheInquisitor**

It works if he's built like Shaq, only smaller. Or if he has no forehead...

You know what? That's one of my favorite sculpts from this KS so far, so I'm just going to shut up.

BTW, I just opened up a not-quite-tardy bird pledge about 16 hours ago. Just a heads up.

**scarletsquig**

Still works, even with a helmet on.

Head is 1/8th of the total body height in adult males.

Almost no minis stick to this though, generally going for 1/6th, or even 1/5th for particularly goofy-looking or GW sculpts, which is why it can be jarring when you do see a properly proportioned mini.

**Triszin**

i like the survivor, my question is is he even human? does it state that he is human, if not then this entire "pinhead" nonsense is nonsense.

edit:
and i love truescale/mantic scale stuff, i just want the orcs to go back to the concept art, i like the rippers, but i dont like the giant gw heads and gorilla arms.

**scarletsquig**

Salacious Greed wrote:

Squig, are there going to be enough of the support pieces to hold all that roof And the "bridge"? That's my main concern, their sprue pics don't show any of the smaller connector pieces, and only 4 roof, balcony, bridge, walkway pieces per sprue, so it will be interesting to see exactly what you can model with this stuff, and just how well it will hold together without glue. If you've heard anything, especially if they've been playing with actual plastic pieces, we'd love to know.

There will be a seperate connector sprue in addition to the 4 tile sprues in every set. It'll be loaded with a lot more connectors than you need.

**PsychoticStorm**

On second thought his neck may be short.

**Alpharius**

Black Nexus wrote:
kicktraq isn't an accurate indicator of where the total will end up, it's massively skewed by the big opening day and doesn't take into account the big finish most miniatures kickstarters experience. how could the software now that kingdom death would do a quarter of it's final total on the last day?

We know.

But it is the only metric we can use to gauge the current and projected future of a project, so for that, it works out.. OK.

**Lansirill**

I wonder if it's particularly simple to access the raw data from kickstarter. It might be fun to play around with it and see if there are any decent models to fit it.

**Saxon**

Survivor looks good.

**CptJake**

Saxon wrote:
Survivor looks good.

The initial concept without the helmet explains a lot.

just kidding!

**Earth Dragon**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
On second thought his neck may be short.

That and he has thick padded clothing on. I would say it is lack of a neck though not small head. Most head sizes are distorted even when claiming "true scale". I don't think it looks bad at all. A little too knit picky if folks want to fuss over the survivor.

**marv335**

I like the Survivor, I'm looking forward to painting mine..

I'm pledged as highly as I'm probably going to go at the moment,
Strike, a battlezone, and the detailing package, with extra postage for the Forgefathers.
If they want more cash out of me, they're going to have to come up with something jaw dropping.