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if you could have the ability to make your own space marine captain for marines and their equivalents, what equipment would you give it, how much would it cost, and what would its special rules be?

who cares for op, go nuts with what you would make

A bike, Iron Halo, power weapon, and plasma pistol, granting his own unit outflank.

(You can get the outflank if you roll the right Warlord Trait)

Artificer Armor, Iron Halo, Combi-Melta, Thunder Hammer, Digital Weapon
Ability to add 1 extra pod to drop pod assault turn 1

Regular Captain Statline
Probably around 200 points

Captain Fabian, Ultramarines 3rd company.

Plasma pistol, power sword, Iron Halo, artificer armour, Hatred and Preferred Enemy: Tyranids, and a special rule allowing him forgo his normal attacks in CC and challenges for one close up plasma pistol shot.

Just working off the current fluff for him really.

Edit: Forgot to price him, I'd say about 160pts.

A captain that can take a heavy weapon and can make devastator count as troops. And the captain has relentless (or 6th edition version of that).

We need rules for Sigismund!

Bakedbeans wrote:
A captain that can take a heavy weapon and can make devastator count as troops. And the captain has relentless (or 6th edition version of that).

What is this devilry? I quite like this idea! Add a relic (heavy) weapon and he could be really cool. Possibly give him a rapid fire lascannon (yeah, I'm not very creative like this).

I'd like a Captain interred within a Dreadnought. He would be armed with Master-Crafted Dreadnought CCW (Including flamer) and TLAC.

He would be venerable and grant Terminators and Scoring Dreadnoughts as troops choices.

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I can see a Techmarine sporting a Heavy Weapon. But I think a captain is better served running up front with his terminator armor and big sword!

A captain that places a orbital bombardment plate for each drop pod on the turn they come in, and were the orbital bombardment lands is were the drop pod lands.

Combi-plasma, bolt pistol, power sword, jet pack

Special rule: Command squad gains jet pack rule, Hit and Run, Relentless?

150 points? I dunno. I like the idea of shooty jet pack marines.

 kronk wrote:
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I can see a Techmarine sporting a Heavy Weapon. But I think a captain is better served running up front with his terminator armor and big sword!

I know it's a better use for the model in CC, but I prefer shooting them before they get close, hence my special snow flake captain.

Captain hindsight

WS 6 BS 4 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 W3

Frag/krak Grenades
Independant Character
Special rule: Hindsight - At the start of the game, you can elect to rearrange your deployed models

 Griddlelol wrote:

Bakedbeans wrote:
A captain that can take a heavy weapon and can make devastator count as troops. And the captain has relentless (or 6th edition version of that).

What is this devilry? I quite like this idea! Add a relic (heavy) weapon and he could be really cool. Possibly give him a rapid fire lascannon (yeah, I'm not very creative like this).

You know what, It'd be a good use for a Man-portable multilaser!

Finally!

Rustgob wrote:

 Griddlelol wrote:

Bakedbeans wrote:
A captain that can take a heavy weapon and can make devastator count as troops. And the captain has relentless (or 6th edition version of that).

What is this devilry? I quite like this idea! Add a relic (heavy) weapon and he could be really cool. Possibly give him a rapid fire lascannon (yeah, I'm not very creative like this).

You know what, It'd be a good use for a Man-portable multilaser!

Finally!

You can't fight at long range! We have to charge at the enemy and drastically lower our chances of survival, and increase our chances of being heroic! We can't just shoot them you know, it's not heroic enough.

well i hav an idea for 2

1 is a ws 4 bs 6 st 4 t 5 i 4 w 3 a 1 ld 10 sv 2+

with iron halo, the 2+ armor, rentless, frag and krak 'nades, gives squad rentless, and can upgrade his squad so they all can have a heavy weapon in that army, and makes devistators troops, his weapon is a odd plasma cannon that has 3 fire modes, 1 is a d3 + d3 small blast st 7 ap 3 shot at 36 inch, 2nd shot is a st 5 ap 4 large blast at 46 inches, 3rd shot is a st 9 ap 2 d3 shots at 30 inch all of these shots have over heat on the roll of a 1 ( during the d3 bit) , but dont effect him, it effects a blast over him and forces everyone to make an armor save, or inv save, no cover save allowed

cost 210 points



the other is a ws 6 bs 4 st 5 t 5 i 6 a 4 w 3 ld 10 save 2+

with iron halo, 2+ armor, furious charge, frag, krak, jump pack, eternal warrior, rage, hatred, zealiot, counter attack, prefered enamy everything, he has 2 special lightning claws that is range - st +1 ap 1 ( normal lightning claw rules but without specialist weapon rule where it removes its extra attack ) he has a special device on his wrist that shoots out a projectile metla bomb, but in melee its acts like a normal melta bomb, but at ragne it has : range 10 assult 2 st 10 ap 1 melta but the metla rule happens regardless of its range, he automaticly comes with a squad of 10 witch are
ws 5 bs 4 st 4 t 4 i 5 a 3 w 2 ld 10 save 2+ , the squad has iron halo 2++ armor, furious charge, frag,krak, melta, jump pack, rage, prefered enamy everything, they have 2 lighting claws

they both have a rule where they can charge when they DS but even if they fail the charge they get attacked by an overwatch with - penatlys to it

both the hq and the troop he comes with cost 740 points together and on the orginasation costs 1 hq and 1 troop


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forgot to add that the guy with the giant unquie plasma cannon is an independent charicter


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hope i didnt break my own rule of being op XD

 jbsnv wrote:
well i hav an idea for 2

1 is a ws 4 bs 6 st 4 t 5 i 4 w 3 a 1 ld 10 sv 2+

with iron halo, the 2+ armor, rentless, frag and krak 'nades, gives squad rentless, and can upgrade his squad so they all can have a heavy weapon in that army, and makes devistators troops, his weapon is a odd plasma cannon that has 3 fire modes, 1 is a d3 + d3 small blast st 7 ap 3 shot at 36 inch, 2nd shot is a st 5 ap 4 large blast at 46 inches, 3rd shot is a st 9 ap 2 d3 shots at 30 inch all of these shots have over heat on the roll of a 1 ( during the d3 bit) , but dont effect him, it effects a blast over him and forces everyone to make an armor save, or inv save, no cover save allowed

cost 210 points



the other is a ws 6 bs 4 st 5 t 5 i 6 a 4 w 3 ld 10 save 2+

with iron halo, 2+ armor, furious charge, frag, krak, jump pack, eternal warrior, rage, hatred, zealiot, counter attack, prefered enamy everything, he has 2 special lightning claws that is range - st +1 ap 1 ( normal lightning claw rules but without specialist weapon rule where it removes its extra attack ) he has a special device on his wrist that shoots out a projectile metla bomb, but in melee its acts like a normal melta bomb, but at ragne it has : range 10 assult 2 st 10 ap 1 melta but the metla rule happens regardless of its range, he automaticly comes with a squad of 10 witch are
ws 5 bs 4 st 4 t 4 i 5 a 3 w 2 ld 10 save 2+ , the squad has iron halo 2++ armor, furious charge, frag,krak, melta, jump pack, rage, prefered enamy everything, they have 2 lighting claws

they both have a rule where they can charge when they DS but even if they fail the charge they get attacked by an overwatch with - penatlys to it

both the hq and the troop he comes with cost 740 points together and on the orginasation costs 1 hq and 1 troop


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forgot to add that the guy with the giant unquie plasma cannon is an independent charicter


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hope i didnt break my own rule of being op XD

These are the most OP characters ever conceived. I don't think there is even a way to tone them down.

 jbsnv wrote:
well i hav an idea for 2

1 is a ws 4 bs 6 st 4 t 5 i 4 w 3 a 1 ld 10 sv 2+

with iron halo, the 2+ armor, rentless, frag and krak 'nades, gives squad rentless, and can upgrade his squad so they all can have a heavy weapon in that army, and makes devistators troops, his weapon is a odd plasma cannon that has 3 fire modes, 1 is a d3 + d3 small blast st 7 ap 3 shot at 36 inch, 2nd shot is a st 5 ap 4 large blast at 46 inches, 3rd shot is a st 9 ap 2 d3 shots at 30 inch all of these shots have over heat on the roll of a 1 ( during the d3 bit) , but dont effect him, it effects a blast over him and forces everyone to make an armor save, or inv save, no cover save allowed

cost 210 points



the other is a ws 6 bs 4 st 5 t 5 i 6 a 4 w 3 ld 10 save 2+

with iron halo, 2+ armor, furious charge, frag, krak, jump pack, eternal warrior, rage, hatred, zealiot, counter attack, prefered enamy everything, he has 2 special lightning claws that is range - st +1 ap 1 ( normal lightning claw rules but without specialist weapon rule where it removes its extra attack ) he has a special device on his wrist that shoots out a projectile metla bomb, but in melee its acts like a normal melta bomb, but at ragne it has : range 10 assult 2 st 10 ap 1 melta but the metla rule happens regardless of its range, he automaticly comes with a squad of 10 witch are
ws 5 bs 4 st 4 t 4 i 5 a 3 w 2 ld 10 save 2+ , the squad has iron halo 2++ armor, furious charge, frag,krak, melta, jump pack, rage, prefered enamy everything, they have 2 lighting claws

they both have a rule where they can charge when they DS but even if they fail the charge they get attacked by an overwatch with - penatlys to it

both the hq and the troop he comes with cost 740 points together and on the orginasation costs 1 hq and 1 troop


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forgot to add that the guy with the giant unquie plasma cannon is an independent charicter


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hope i didnt break my own rule of being op XD

Literally zero offense intended, but these are the most overpowered things I've ever seen.

And I field vendettas. *Badum-tishh*

lol probably increasing the price alot would make it less broken XD
i should tone it down with just the d3 + d3 blasts on the shooty fellow, and the guy with melee remove his metla bomb gauntlets and ability to charge after ds

 jbsnv wrote:
lol probably increasing the price alot would make it less broken XD
so i did break my own rule, damn

Not really about the price.

They're just too good.

Literally better than anything that exists in-game except for apocalypse units.

 jbsnv wrote:
lol probably increasing the price alot would make it less broken XD
i should tone it down with just the d3 + d3 blasts on the shooty fellow, and the guy with melee remove his metla bomb gauntlets and ability to charge after ds

I'd start from Scratch..

so if i just made it d3 + d3 small blast shots at st 7 ap 3 ( insted of ap 2 ) and removed the ability to charge after ds and removed the metla gauntlets woult it be less op? or still on the same lvl?


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 blood reaper wrote:

 jbsnv wrote:
lol probably increasing the price alot would make it less broken XD
i should tone it down with just the d3 + d3 blasts on the shooty fellow, and the guy with melee remove his metla bomb gauntlets and ability to charge after ds

I'd start from Scratch..

i did start from scratch

what would you make?

No, entirely. Because the characters scream OP!

I'd probably have some form of shooty captain who gives bonuses to Devastators and so on.

so you would have a captin that starts with a heavy weapon and can swap it, and makes devistators troops and gives them rentless

An iron hands named character. He allows devastators to become relentless and is armed with the conversion beamer.

sems that everyone loves devastators all of a sudden

A pair of Relic Blades he can wield one handed, with wrist mounted Meltaguns, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Cyclone Missile Launcher, pair of Shoulder Mounted Lascannons, has Iron Man style jets so is Jump Infantry, and ignores terrain tests.

 Deadshot wrote:
A pair of Relic Blades he can wield one handed, with wrist mounted Meltaguns, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Cyclone Missile Launcher, pair of Shoulder Mounted Lascannons, has Iron Man style jets so is Jump Infantry, and ignores terrain tests.

lol the iron man captin

 kronk wrote:
We need rules for Sigismund!

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Sigismund, Champion of the Emperor
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
8 6 4 4 3 5 3 10 2+

Unit type: Infantry (Unique), Character

Unit Composition: Sigismund

Cost: 275 points

Wargear: Bolt Pistol, Durendal, True Sword of Sigismund, Armour of Faith

Special Rules: Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Slayer of Champions, Ultimate duellist, Lead Thou me on

Sigismund must choose one of the vows in Codex: Black Templars for the cost listed there.

The Armour of Faith: This relic armour is adorned with finely wrought catechisms of hatred, wards and prayers and is the personal armour of Sigismund, First Captain of the Imperial Fists Legion and first Champion of the Emperor. This is a suit of Artificier Armour that also confers a 3+ invulnerable save at all times.


Durendal, True Sword of Sigismund: This master-crafted Power Weapon increases the wielder's strength by two and grants the wielder an additional D6 when rolling to penetrate the armour of a vehicle. Furthermore, its wounds always inflict instant death against Characters. Attacks made with Durendal ignore armour saves and count as AP1 against vehicles.

Slayer of Champions: Sigismund must always issue and accept Challenges. If any other model in the combat has this special rule, ignore it; Sigismund won't let anyone get in his way.

Ultimate duellist: Sigismund is a master of the blade, greater than even the famed Khârn. Sigismund never requires more than a 3+ to hit anything, no matter what. He may also always reroll his failed to-hit and/or to wound rolls.

Lead Thou me on: Sigismund constantly receives visions of the Emperor, guiding him in his never-ending Crusade. Sigismund, and any unit he joins, leads or is attached to, may never be hit on anything better than a 4+, regardless of other special rules, with the exception for attacks that automatically hit and Khârn the Betrayer’s special rule (he’s not THAT good!).

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 kronk wrote:
We need rules for Sigismund!

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Sigismund, Champion of the Emperor
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
8 6 4 4 3 5 3 10 2+

Unit type: Infantry (Unique), Character

Unit Composition: Sigismund

Cost: 275 points

Wargear: Bolt Pistol, Durendal, True Sword of Sigismund, Armour of Faith

Special Rules: Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Slayer of Champions, Ultimate duellist, Lead Thou me on

Sigismund must choose one of the vows in Codex: Black Templars for the cost listed there.

The Armour of Faith: This relic armour is adorned with finely wrought catechisms of hatred, wards and prayers and is the personal armour of Sigismund, First Captain of the Imperial Fists Legion and first Champion of the Emperor. This is a suit of Artificier Armour that also confers a 3+ invulnerable save at all times.


Durendal, True Sword of Sigismund: This master-crafted Power Weapon increases the wielder's strength by two and grants the wielder an additional D6 when rolling to penetrate the armour of a vehicle. Furthermore, its wounds always inflict instant death against Characters. Attacks made with Durendal ignore armour saves and count as AP1 against vehicles.

Slayer of Champions: Sigismund must always issue and accept Challenges. If any other model in the combat has this special rule, ignore it; Sigismund won't let anyone get in his way.

Ultimate duellist: Sigismund is a master of the blade, greater than even the famed Khârn. Sigismund never requires more than a 3+ to hit anything, no matter what. He may also always reroll his failed to-hit and/or to wound rolls.

Lead Thou me on: Sigismund constantly receives visions of the Emperor, guiding him in his never-ending Crusade. Sigismund, and any unit he joins, leads or is attached to, may never be hit on anything better than a 4+, regardless of other special rules, with the exception for attacks that automatically hit and Khârn the Betrayer’s special rule (he’s not THAT good!).

Remove the 4+ to hit seems a tad OP considering the rest of his rules. Also re-rolling to wound? Just make it to hit.