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I've honestly tried to find a definitive answer for this so apologies if this has already been answered elsewhere, and I appreciate it is a contentious issue - can wounds from a blast template attack [not barrage] be allocated to models that are out of LoS of the firing unit?

The FAQ says that models out of LoS can be hit, but does not state anything about wound allocation. In the rulebook it says that wounds from a blast template are allocated as normal [i.e. wounds can only be allocated to models that are in LoS].

Thanks in advance.

You always allocate to the closest models in regard to the unit firing at them, and pull them appropriately.

In regards to your question, you can't allocate wounds to things you can't hit, so...

 juraigamer wrote:
You always allocate to the closest models in regard to the unit firing at them, and pull them appropriately.

In regards to your question, you can't allocate wounds to things you can't hit, so...

Sorry if I'm being thick - was that a yes or a no? You can't allocated wounds to things you can't see according to the shooting rules.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
I've honestly tried to find a definitive answer for this so apologies if this has already been answered elsewhere, and I appreciate it is a contentious issue - can wounds from a blast template attack [not barrage] be allocated to models that are out of LoS of the firing unit?

The FAQ says that models out of LoS can be hit, but does not state anything about wound allocation. In the rulebook it says that wounds from a blast template are allocated as normal [i.e. wounds can only be allocated to models that are in LoS].

Thanks in advance.

Id say no,

So you're firing a ML at a squad of boys but only 2 are visible. The rest are behind LOS blocking cover. You place the template over the centre of one of the visible models. Now. Lets say the blast scatters further back into the unit, behind the building, and ends up hitting 5 models. You are able to roll for 5 wounds, but only 2 models can be removed. however you may need all 5 wounds from the wound pool to get the job done.

"If there are no visible models in the target unit, all remaining Wounds in the pool are lost and the shooting attack ends."

The blast determines how many hits, and ultimately wounds, you inflict.

Any subsequent casualties are then removed according to the normal rules.

Cool, thanks for the replies, this came at a pretty critical point in the battle and led to a lot of heated debate! Kind of glad that I seem to have called it correctly as I was worried I was coming across as a WAAC player rather than just asking the question.

EDIT - a couple of follow on questions -
1. If the blast scatters, can wounds be allocated to models out of LoS? Seems to say it can in the rulebook.
2. If the blast scatters less than the BS of the firing unit does this count as a hit or a scatter?

If a blast scatters and hits a unit out of LoS it can wound those models, but they will get a cover save accordingly. pg 33 BrB top right corner to be more exact.

To hit is how many guys are under the template after its scattered if at all, then wounds are rolled.

Unless the weapon is barrage.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
Cool, thanks for the replies, this came at a pretty critical point in the battle and led to a lot of heated debate! Kind of glad that I seem to have called it correctly as I was worried I was coming across as a WAAC player rather than just asking the question.

EDIT - a couple of follow on questions -
1. If the blast scatters, can wounds be allocated to models out of LoS? Seems to say it can in the rulebook.
2. If the blast scatters less than the BS of the firing unit does this count as a hit or a scatter?

1. The FAQ modified how page 33 works. You can hit and wound models out of range and line of sight, but this alone doesn't give you permission to allocate those wounds. However you can allocate to models out of LoS of the firing model, if they're still in LoS of at least one model from the firing *unit*.
2. If you roll a scatter arrow on the scatter die, it's a scatter result, regardless of distance rolled. However I can't think of a situation where that matters.