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2013/10/10 19:40:27
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
Five Years have passed since war came to Nocturne.Third Company, still feeling its losses, recovers its strength. And though a small party have ventured out in search of a certain errant fire-born, it is the Salamanders of Fifth Company who must wage war. On Heletine, the Black Legion has come in the name of Chaos and only Brother-Captain Drakgaard's warriors stand in the way of their dark glory. Victory for the Imperium hinges on the alliance between the Salamanders and The Sisters of the Ebon Chalice, warrior zealots and devout servants of the Ecclesiarchy. But there is more to this Promethean War than conquest, and only as the conflict grinds on are the true motives of the enemy revealed...
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The Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves - two Legions whose destinies were irrevocably entwined at Prospero, and yet who now dance separately to fate's tune. As sanctioned executioners, the Wolves of Fenris were meant to root out treachery at the heart of the Legions...but would they be capable of carrying out a death sentence upon one of the Emperor's own sons? Meanwhile, Ahzek Ahriman and Magnus the Red cast their sight over the galaxy, seeking any clue as to what the future might hold.
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I finished Master of Dragons, by Chris Wraight yesterday evening. Its book 2 in the War of Vengeance (or War of the Beard, if you are a High Elf ) trilogy.
Nothing really shocking in terms of lore, as the main story has been WHFB canon forever. Spoilers just in case:
Spoiler:
It focuses heavily on the High Elf side, mainly the eponymous title character, Imladrik. Liandra, his almost girlfriend and a powerful dragon riding mage in her own right also plays a big part. A handful of minor High Elves flesh out the High Elf cast. A few Dark Elf characters from previous novels, also continue to wreak havoc , furthering the war. Morgrim, the leader of the main Dwarf army and costar of the previous War of Vengeance novel, has a few parts, mainly to show the differences between him and Imladrik.
From the very onset, you get a sense of the overpowering arrogance of the High Elves that led to the war. Only a few High Elves take the Dwarf threat serious, thinking them humbled and spent after the death and mutilation of Snorri Halfhand, the Dwarf High Kings son, at the hands of the thoroughly unlikeable Caledor II. The novel expertly portrays the Dwarves as an elemental force, relentless and near unstoppable. They don't go through a forest using trails, or around it, they tear it down. For the greater part of the novel, they are portrayed almost like a volcano , ready to burst. When it does burst, they are absolutely ruthless, sparing nothing in their conquests.
The interactions between the Dragons and their riders is pretty neat, reminded me in a way of 40k Titan pilots, which was cool. The differences in how Dark Elves treat their dragons is also an interesting contrast. One is kinship, the other domination.
The duel at the end was too short for my tastes, but tragic still, as both former friends did the most to prevent the war. In the end, the guy named Elfdoom lives up to his name.
Proto-Wood Elves also make a cameo. And the scene is set for a certain Nehekarran priest to get a few Dark Elf mages into his ambitious clutches. Surely nothing bad will come from that....
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2013/10/14 07:40:58
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Cheers for that, been looking forwards to reading this a lot.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/10/17 03:21:31
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Looks like the last chapter of "Scars" hits next week . Although the serialization of it is kind of annoying, its given me a Horus Heresy fix every week, which is nice.
I've found it pretty entertaining and they've saved the best for last :
Spoiler:
Mortarion vs The Khan battle it out in the ashes of Prospero, while the divided White Scars battle for the soul of the Legion in orbit above.
Edit2:
I also liked the revelation in this newest chapter that :
Spoiler:
The Primarchs being scattered across the galaxy was planned, its just that the Chaos Gods muffed the landing. Like Fulgrim was supposed to land on Chogoris (The White Scars planet)etc.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2013/10/18 10:59:21
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
The trailer for the brand new Horus Heresy: Visions of Heresy collector's edition art book. Release date: 1st November 2013, 9 AM (BST)
Looks lovely indeed.
.. Think I'll wait for the regular version however.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/10/18 11:07:46
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
NELS1031 wrote: Looks like the last chapter of "Scars" hits next week . Although the serialization of it is kind of annoying, its given me a Horus Heresy fix every week, which is nice.
I've found it pretty entertaining and they've saved the best for last :
Spoiler:
Mortarion vs The Khan battle it out in the ashes of Prospero, while the divided White Scars battle for the soul of the Legion in orbit above.
Edit2:
I also liked the revelation in this newest chapter that :
Spoiler:
The Primarchs being scattered across the galaxy was planned, its just that the Chaos Gods muffed the landing. Like Fulgrim was supposed to land on Chogoris (The White Scars planet)etc.
Spoiler:
Mortarion and the Khan above Prospero hmm Interesting.
Spoiler:
I guess we've always kind of suspected this, I mean, Angron landed on a Gladiatorial world, Mortarion, a world of death, Magnus, a world of Sorcerers and Scholars and Fulgrim did always seem to be a bit of an odd one out. Good to see that we have got another explanation.
Look forward to getting the complete edition of this.
Cheers for the Vid Red, that does look awesome and something I have been waiting for.
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No pity, no remorse, no shoes
2013/10/18 12:44:03
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
The trailer for the brand new Horus Heresy: Visions of Heresy collector's edition art book. Release date: 1st November 2013, 9 AM (BST)
Looks lovely indeed.
.. Think I'll wait for the regular version however.
So it's a re-issue of the original books, complete with all the rubbish artwork of the originals, including those awful Blanche scribbles, plus a few book covers. The Collected Visions has to be one of the most disappointing books I have ever bought.
I'll pass methinks...
"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."
"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
"Mind the oranges Marlon!"
2013/10/18 12:48:04
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
My understanding is that the text has been amended/corrected and, in parts, expanded upon.
I believe some of the ........ less well received ...... pieces of art have been removed/replaced too.
One would imagine the art index they mention replaces the list of the cards the old ones had.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/10/18 13:02:46
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
I really like the current "Collected Visions" book (currently sitting beside me) it's great to flick through. I'll be waiting to see a price point for this, as it's something I could get behind if the price is right.
Some of the art in Collected Visions is a bit... dodgy... I hope there's a good percent of new art in this book.
@red - Do you think they'll be a regular edition of this book in a similar format to the original?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/10/18 13:20:18
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Not sure there is much reason to get that though if you have the original, other than for completists who want everything HH related?
Farmersboy, think the importance of collected visions cant be understated. If there hadnt been the massive fan reaction to it, and then an element of the fans running with it, we might not have even had an HH book series today.
Think its also got a more naive touch to it, which is rather charming, before the concept turned into the money making juggernaut it is today.
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That is a good point, I'm definitely not into the HH that heavily, but I do like the art. The current collected visions book doesn't read that well, and the cards at the back are redundant. If it's sleeker in presentation and has enough new art in it I think it'll be worth it.. They'll probably have it in Waterstones, I'll have a flick through it before I decide to buy.
I don't think there will be a good percent of new art in this book... it will be mainly recycled material with the addition of the book covers and internal art from the CE hardbacks. Old pics will be replaced by newer pics (like the old Kharn pic will be replaced by the new Kharn artwork from the CE Betrayer novel).
It would be nice to own this, but I own the collected visions and all the hardbacks, so I think I'll save the $250 and put that towards more hardbacks as they are released. Well, and I'm sure this version will be reworked and re-released in another 5 years with all the new HH stuff being released.
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IN ALAE MORTIS... On the wings of Death!!
2013/10/23 15:41:56
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Lately we’ve had a lot of emails and questions at events about the changing policy on submitting your writing to Black Library, and in particular what format submissions will take in future. We’ve talked a little bit about this, but in advance of the ‘Writing for BL’ panel at the upcoming Weekender event, here are a few updates.
Firstly, the editors have now finished going through the massive heap of submissions from back in 2012. With more than three thousand individual stories, it was always going to take a while... but we have now contacted everyone whose work we are interested in. If you didn’t hear back from us this time, don’t let that discourage you – take it as an opportunity to raise your game and make your next submission even better and more exciting!
And when, you may ask, will be the next chance to submit your work to BL?
For the last three years, we have had Laurie Goulding acting as a dedicated Submissions Editor. Going forwards, any of our commissioning editors might call a short story submissions window at any time, and this will usually be themed around a specific topic, army or race. We might, for example, ask for stories about Second Founding Space Marine Chapters, or stories specifically focused on a particular war or campaign, or maybe even dealing with a particularly renowned hero of the Warhammer world. The dates for each window will be announced in advance, and submissions taken only during that time. As before, we will only be able to reply to successful applicants.
Alternatively, at many of our events we will be taking the opportunity to invite fans to submit their writing to us – in fact, those lucky Gold Ticket holders at the Weekender in November will be attending a bespoke, all-day writing academy, run by the BL editors and featuring some of our best known authors as special guests. Future event-specific submissions will also be announced well in advance, alongside our usual writing advice panels.
Why the sweeping changes to the process, then? Laurie had this to say:
‘Rather than limiting your options or restricting creativity, we’ve found that by far the most productive way to work with potential new authors is to work within a vague brief. We want to see awesome and exciting stories set in the Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 universes, which support the rich gaming background (and don’t throw too many jarring curve-balls!)
‘Also, in all the years that BL has been accepting submissions, we have only accepted ONE novel submission (‘Knight of the Blazing Sun’ by Josh Reynolds, if you’re interested!) for publication, and that was by an already-published author with years of experience. In contrast, we have found dozens of authors through short story work – David Annandale, Chris Wraight, David Guymer and Joe Parrino, to name but a few. It is simply not fair for BL to ask you, the writer, to work for months on a manuscript which might never even see the light of day, when we could instead be collaborating with you on a short story which can be revised or amended far more quickly and easily.’
So while you wait for the first new submissions window to be announced, what advice can the editorial team offer?
‘Don’t just sit there... get writing! There’s no substitute for practice, so grab the latest Codex or army book, open a new Word document on your computer, and let those ideas flow. There are plenty of online forums where writers can read and critique one another’s work, or your local library might have details of writers’ groups in your area. Alternatively, get yourself along to the BL Weekender and have a go at ‘Pitch Factor’ on the Saturday evening – this is the best chance to get your ideas heard by our editors and authors, and best of all you will actually receive useful feedback right then and there. And who knows, we might like your idea enough to commission it on the spot...’
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/10/28 19:03:53
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
THE STORY
Always first among the superhuman primarchs, the newly dubbed Warmaster Horus turned his back upon the Emperor and embraced the dark powers of Chaos. With fully half the military might of the fledgling Imperium at his command, he set his sights upon the throne of Holy Terra and waged a war which would divide the galaxy forever...
Visions of war, visions of darkness, of treachery and death - all of this and more is contained within this heretical volume. Iconic depictions of the Space Marine Legions and the heroes that commanded them are presented alongside artwork from renowned artist Neil Roberts, as well as brand new historical notes on the Warhammer 40,000 universe by Alan Merrett. Witness the end of an era and the beginning of something far darker, as the Heresy continues to unfold.
ABOUT THIS EDITION
This collector's edition comes split into two volumes: The Age of The Emperor - Istvaan V and The Silent War - Terra. These leather-bound hardbacks are presented in a leather slip case featuring Neil Roberts new interpretation of the Emperor's fateful battle with Horus on the Vengeful Spirit.
Strictly limited to 1,250 copies worldwide, this tome is something no collector will want to be without.
Visions of Heresy will go on sale at 9AM (GMT) on 1 November and is only available while stocks last.
Automatically Appended Next Post: and that version has sold out.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/11/01 13:54:52
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
BL explained to me on Facebook that some of the card illustrations had been replaced by more modern stuff, such as the HH book covers, but when pressed for a rough percentage of new over old they went quiet, so I can only assume that the vast majority of these overpriced reprints is still the frankly shonky and amateur artwork they contained the first time round, with particular reference to the scribbles of one J. Blanche...
...they should have started from scratch.
"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."
"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
"Mind the oranges Marlon!"
2013/11/01 15:42:04
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
For those of you that missed out on getting a copy of the collector’s edition of Visions of Heresy this morning, we’ve got some good news. Due to some technical issues, we have some stock remaining of this limited edition title.
In order to give everyone as fair a chance as possible to get one of these highly sought after pieces, the remaining stock will go on sale at 11am (GMT) on Monday the 4th of November from blacklibrary.com.
There will still be copies available at the Black Library Weekender tomorrow for anyone in the area (and there are a few event tickets left on the door).
We apologise for any inconvenience caused this morning and hope that this will allow you to plan your time and get everyone a copy that wants one.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/11/01 16:32:28
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
One has to wonder if the "technical difficulty" is that they have reached the point where the price has resulted in the number available has exceeded the number of people who are willing to pay it?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Initial batch registered as sold out in 24 minutes after they went online.
These are spares and cancelled/returned from those who clicked too much.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/11/02 03:50:25
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
Just read the first of the Legion of the Damned short stories to be released on Itunes.
Brother Sergeant Centurius makes an appearance, old timers may remember him as the limited edition LotD special character. The Legion actually interacts with fellow space marines in this story and we see how they recruit. Still plenty of mystery and menace surround them though. Pretty cool.
I'll be picking all of them as they are released. Love me some Legion of the Damned.
Edit: I liked it so much I'm just gonna download the whole collection of 6 from BL.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2013/11/02 12:57:17
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
I just gave in and bought that, and when I download I get a zip file I can't do anything with....
...you don't get this problem with real books - open book, read pages...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ah, download to PC, unzip, copy into Drop box, retrieve onto tablet...
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"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."
"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
"Mind the oranges Marlon!"
2013/11/02 20:18:55
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
NELS1031 wrote: Just read the first of the Legion of the Damned short stories to be released on Itunes.
Brother Sergeant Centurius makes an appearance, old timers may remember him as the limited edition LotD special character. The Legion actually interacts with fellow space marines in this story and we see how they recruit. Still plenty of mystery and menace surround them though. Pretty cool.
I'll be picking all of them as they are released. Love me some Legion of the Damned.
Edit: I liked it so much I'm just gonna download the whole collection of 6 from BL.
i couldn't find the Sgt. Centurius story on iBooks...
what is the title???
cheers
jah
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2013/11/02 20:26:52
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
thanks, bud...
those aren't up on iBooks yet...
they also don't have Gotrek &Felix: City of the Damned up:(...
seriously slacking on the iBooks...
they did put up the new novel Pandorax, though...
not sure if i want it bad enough to pay $11.99, but a Catachan novel sounds good, with the Dark Angels coming to save the day...
cheers
jah
Paint like ya got a pair!
Available for commissions.
2013/11/02 21:21:04
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
NELS1031 wrote: Just read the first of the Legion of the Damned short stories to be released on Itunes.
Brother Sergeant Centurius makes an appearance, old timers may remember him as the limited edition LotD special character. The Legion actually interacts with fellow space marines in this story and we see how they recruit. Still plenty of mystery and menace surround them though. Pretty cool.
I'll be picking all of them as they are released. Love me some Legion of the Damned.
Edit: I liked it so much I'm just gonna download the whole collection of 6 from BL.
i couldn't find the Sgt. Centurius story on iBooks...
what is the title???
cheers
jah
"Animus Malorum" is the only one on Itunes at present.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Interesting.
