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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 20:57:08
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:02:24
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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[DCM]
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I'm thinking I'd like a TAU CETI style of an INFINITY table though...
We'll see!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:04:14
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
Union, Kentucky United States
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Alpharius wrote:I'm thinking I'd like a TAU CETI style of an INFINITY table though...
We'll see!
SECONDED!!! You know sometime soon you and I will have to sit down for a game of Infinity btw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:06:38
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Pious Warrior Priest
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So, no generic tiles then? Just themed ones?
Pass.
All I'd really want is a single board that is generic enough to be used for anything. Shame Games and Gears didn't fund, plain old sand tiles would be great. If I want to glue some tyres or scrap metal on to it I can, no need to have those moulded on to the board.
2x2 is definitely better than 1x1, too many visible seams on 1x1, looks like you're playing on a spreadsheet rather than a gaming board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:16:34
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I am hoping for one big Alien hive tile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:17:39
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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scarletsquig wrote:So, no generic tiles then? Just themed ones?
Pass.
All I'd really want is a single board that is generic enough to be used for anything. Shame Games and Gears didn't fund, plain old sand tiles would be great. If I want to glue some tyres or scrap metal on to it I can, no need to have those moulded on to the board.
2x2 is definitely better than 1x1, too many visible seams on 1x1, looks like you're playing on a spreadsheet rather than a gaming board.
"Generic" as we know it may be one of the themes: open field landscape.
I don't imagine this would go well if every single set was some VERY specific theme.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/11 21:26:56
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Yeah, I'd be a little shocked if there weren't a flat panel or two. And I'd be shocked if a "sand" one wasn't done eventually. Even as a single panel it would work for desert and ocean which would be solid. And they don't need to make giant groups of them because they are so generic.
We'll see.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 00:53:06
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Hulksmash wrote:Yeah, I'd be a little shocked if there weren't a flat panel or two. And I'd be shocked if a "sand" one wasn't done eventually. Even as a single panel it would work for desert and ocean which would be solid. And they don't need to make giant groups of them because they are so generic.
We'll see.
You could also paint it black, hit it with some blue/purple/green from a air brush and spots. Bam. Space board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 01:58:22
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I've been wondering whether this KS was gonna be worth backing. Kinda figured it was just gonna be another crappy overpriced heap of plastic tiles like the ROB board. But the info MT11 has been nice enough to dole out to us and the unabashed enthusiasm everyone seems to have for this project has got me excited for it as well. This may just be the first KS i back.
I'd really be interested in a board to match their Tau Ceti bases. Not enough Tau themed terrain around. Imagine if they offered a trench style board though. That alone would probably be enough to fund the project and all it's stretch goals. I know i'd certainly buy one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 02:39:40
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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You will be happy then, maybe not with the tau ceti, yet, but otherwise happy
One thing to note guys, is to make really clear the costs of plastic on this scale. A full set of tiles (16unique) is in the neighborhood of 80k to tool, not counting development, packaging, distribution or even making copies, we are talking just the molds. This, combined with the industrial design involved in actually making a viable 3d template means it is incredibly tough to pull off plastic due to both the expense and lack of specialists. Beware ks's that only show zbrush renders people, less so for resin, but for plastics be skeptical as hell.
All in all, it will be important for everyone to be realistic with their expectations, it isn't gonna be 100 bucks for a 6x4 table... The price will be right, and very compelling, but it will cost more than a land raider lol!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 02:43:10
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Fixture of Dakka
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While I have much higher hopes for Secret Weapon's table, i will say that Games & Gears are advertising that their 6x4 will only be $100 in their upcoming Kickstarter.
Though its also looking like they are doing 2'x2' tiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 02:49:39
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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If they can get somewhere between 33%(Full retail)-50%(kickstarter-ish) less than a Realm of Battle for a full 6x4 (and smaller units priced appropriately) then they'll do just fine.
The main thing is this being available at a reasonable price for individual tiles which will bring more people in.
A smart thing which I'm sure they're already considering is framing for 2x1 or 2x2 for display board purposes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:25:06
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Then you should be pleased again, for several reasons. As far as I am concerned, on price, quality and shipping, it's an absolute no brainer, the #s and boards speak for themselves. The only real obstacle to it being a fantastic purchase if you are in the market for detailed boards is whether or not the initial themes blow up your skirt. Other than that, there isn't anything better out there atm IMHO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:25:59
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm not here - and I'm certainly not commenting on this thread...
But if I were I'd say that a 4x8' Tablescapes setup will save you at least 33% when compared to the previously mentioned plastic injection table from another company -- and with 32 tiles to mix-and-match you will be able to change your layout every single day for more than two years without ever playing the same board twice.
But you didn't hear any of this from me, because I was never here....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:35:58
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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misterjustin wrote:I'm not here - and I'm certainly not commenting on this thread...
But if I were I'd say that a 4x8' Tablescapes setup will save you at least 33% when compared to the previously mentioned plastic injection table from another company -- and with 32 tiles to mix-and-match you will be able to change your layout every single day for more than two years without ever playing the same board twice.
But you didn't hear any of this from me, because I was never here....
$200 for a 4x8 table of 32 tiles is a damn good deal.
KS needs to be up already.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:37:54
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That would be a damn good deal - of course mine will come in at a pinch higher than that... but only because of math.
Wait... dammit... I'm supposed to be going to bed. GAH!
---- EDIT ----
I will say this -- after reading your comments I made changes to the stretch goals. There will not be two smaller, "generic" tile stretch-goals that are not represented in the promotional video.
This is your fault.
So... thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:46:20
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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See? He actually listens and gives a poo! How could you not love that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:54:00
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Nasty Nob
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I know that some people are not excited about the junkyard tiles, but my Gorkamorka-loving @$$ is totally stoked for them. Get this Kickstarter started so I can throw money at you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 03:58:23
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Hmmm quality product $200 ish plus postage or competitors product at $450 aus....makes the decision kinda easy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 04:14:48
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
Australia
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totally agree with the above comment!
pleas get the KS up already! i am hoping for desert tiles!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 04:28:54
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Fixture of Dakka
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Joyboozer wrote:Hmmm quality product $200 ish plus postage or competitors product at $450 aus....makes the decision kinda easy.
As MT11 said, its a no brainer. It would still be worth it at the ~$300 mark.
Barring warpstorm, Rok strike or some other unfortunate calamity i will almost certainly be backing this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 04:32:31
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Be kinda cool to have the ruined city as the center of a board with the "junk yard" on the outside like an approach....
@Justin
Looking forward to this man. Love your other products and expect this to be on the same level. Get a trench table up and going quick though since those are the bases for the majority of my forces and you totally want me buying even more bases than the ridiculous amount I've already purchased
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 05:08:18
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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misterjustin wrote:That would be a damn good deal - of course mine will come in at a pinch higher than that... but only because of math.
Wait... dammit... I'm supposed to be going to bed. GAH!
In your defence your looking at doing 16 unique tiles to make up your board from. If Game and Gears 2nd time around is like their 1st, they will not even have half that many tiles to choose from.
Neither approach is bad, just different goals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 06:09:45
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Price point sounds right on target for what it should be. My previous comment was more of a hope due to limited funds currently
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 07:46:06
Subject: Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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I don't know if you can get SW stuff in the U.K. as ive never seen it. Postage costs from the U.S. to UK put me off. I cant see this being worthwhile to most outside the U.S. initially.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 07:55:13
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Motograter wrote:I don't know if you can get SW stuff in the U.K. as ive never seen it. Postage costs from the U.S. to UK put me off. I cant see this being worthwhile to most outside the U.S. initially.
Pretty much like most Kickstarters really - the recent USPS price hikes have really destroyed ordering stuff from US for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 08:08:01
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Fixture of Dakka
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Motograter wrote:I don't know if you can get SW stuff in the U.K. as ive never seen it. Postage costs from the U.S. to UK put me off. I cant see this being worthwhile to most outside the U.S. initially.
Valiant wargames stock secret weapon in the UK.
http://www.valiantwargames.co.uk/index.php/secret-weapon.html
Yep postage is going to be a big consideration here $100 for a 4x4 setup is a good price but if postage is another $50 to $60 then it requires more thought and these will be heavy and then there's the possibility of VAT (23% for me plus €6 handling fee for the post office)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 10:13:37
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Same thing here, I would love to pick some up but the txes and shipping will mostly kill it as there's no way a box of that size will go unnoticed by customs. The Dreamforge kickstarter already got upped by €50 for taxes and all (it still was a pretty good deal in the end though). But it'll depend on what the maths will say on this, I"d love to back but not if it'll cost me more than getting it retail later on. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 11:32:30
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon announces Injection Molded Plastic - Terrain Board?
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Hulking Hunter-class Warmech
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I am so in for this board... Open the Kickstarter already dammit!  I have money I need to throw at you!
As soon as it's announced, I'll be passing the word around the FLGS and singing Secret Weapon's praises
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/12 11:39:28
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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Oh i'm so hyped for this! any guesses for how much these modular sections will be?
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