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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 15:10:42
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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The new 16 tile set for the Rolling Fields is:
4 @ Straight Creek
2 @ Creek Bend
1 @ Large Rock
1 @ Shallow
8 @ Plain Flat
So the creek can cross the entire table now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 15:21:01
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Here is the full update:
Every hour brings us closer to unlocking the "Rolling Fields" table theme, and so we've been putting our heads together to sort out the best mix of tiles. Right now the 16 tile set looks like:
4 @ Straight Creek
2 @ Creek Bend
1 @ Large Rock
1 @ Shallow
8 @ Plain Flat
The creek tiles will have a VERY slight slope, creating a small berm around the creek feature to give it some additional depth. There are enough creek tiles in the basic set to cross the table. We'll keep this as a creek, and not a river, so that it doesn't dominate the table -- and work on river tiles as an expansion set after the campaign.
The top center tiles are the shallow and the rock feature. The former would allow you to have one tile with a slight crater or creek, the latter would be dominated by a large raised rock feature. The remaining tiles will feature our universal dirt pattern with small thematic touches like small rocks and simple, non-period details.
Next up on the concept front... "Ruined Temple" is getting a makeover!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 20:52:32
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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I'm torn between the field and the ruined temple...I have a RoB board currently and would love to have a 4x4 set to get rid of the hill that the realm of battle has...I don't know if the temple will fit my aesthetic, but the idea of more fields is sort of boring to me...can't wait to see the updated concepts.
you may even get me to pledge for both if I like what I see
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 21:48:06
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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BrotherVord wrote:I'm torn between the field and the ruined temple...I have a RoB board currently and would love to have a 4x4 set to get rid of the hill that the realm of battle has...I don't know if the temple will fit my aesthetic, but the idea of more fields is sort of boring to me...can't wait to see the updated concepts.
you may even get me to pledge for both if I like what I see 
Just an FYI... you do know that the Tablescapes and RoB are different heights? So you'll likely need a riser of some sort (like pink foam) to make it compatible with the RoB board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 22:05:50
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
Arlington, VA, USA
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The Crippler wrote:Can anyone explain the shipping options to me? Sometimes the words 'free shipping' are used and sometimes 'free international shipping'. Are they actually being used interchangeably? If not, the shipping costs might price me out of this one (like it did with Dwarven Forge).
I am pretty sure that the boards are free international shipping. I read that Justin is not able to edit the word 'International' into the descriptions where it is currently missing, because Kickstarter doesn't allow editing of text for pledge levels which have backers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 05:46:29
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Valhallan42nd wrote:BrotherVord wrote:I'm torn between the field and the ruined temple...I have a RoB board currently and would love to have a 4x4 set to get rid of the hill that the realm of battle has...I don't know if the temple will fit my aesthetic, but the idea of more fields is sort of boring to me...can't wait to see the updated concepts.
you may even get me to pledge for both if I like what I see 
Just an FYI... you do know that the Tablescapes and RoB are different heights? So you'll likely need a riser of some sort (like pink foam) to make it compatible with the RoB board.
Shouldn't be a huge issue, I would only get the 4x4's if money would be an issue at that time anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 11:14:15
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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AlexHolker wrote: Valhallan42nd wrote: AlexHolker wrote:The tower suffers from the same problem as the rest of the Scrap Yard: how many identical aeroplane tails with identical added scrap-bits is someone going to want or need on their table?
Probably just one. Which is all you would need to buy.
Yeah, that was my point. Compare to something like the Trench table: two or three identical bunkers on a defensive line won't look weird, but two or three identical aeroplane tail towers might. So people are more likely to buy more of the former than the latter, which makes it easier to pay for your moulds.
What I took away from this post: folks down under say "aeroplane"
(not actually sure if that's true or not, but if so, it's awesome  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 11:57:56
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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RiTides wrote:What I took away from this post: folks down under say "aeroplane"
(not actually sure if that's true or not, but if so, it's awesome  )
We do in ye olde Blighty too.
Would you like me to say it again for your pleasure? "Aeroplane".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 12:06:12
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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[DCM]
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It looks nice and retro-cool when spelled like that.
But it also sounds as if it should only encompass planes with propellers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 12:09:42
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Baragash wrote:gargant wrote: misterjustin wrote:Useful, yes - but the only common complaint I've received about the 12" tiles is that they make it easier to pre-measure. Anything we can do to mitigate that is also useful.
Of course it all has to balance out in the end -- and being able to offer a Deadzone board would be... very, very useful.
Sorry for being a bit of a noob when it comes to things other than 40k, but why is being able to pre-measure a bad thing? Are there a lot of games where it's disallowed? I personally would love to see a 1" grid, specifically to make it easy to move troops without even needing a tape measure (at least some of the time).
Some games do some don't eg Malifaux and I think Warmahordes (and presumably Necromunda being based on 2nd Ed 40k) don't allow it but 40k, WHF, Hell Dorado and Warpath do to throw a few names about.
Just to update this - Malifaux have just announced v2 beta and pre-measuring will be allowed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 12:12:13
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Old Sourpuss
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Alpharius wrote:It looks nice and retro-cool when spelled like that.
But it also sounds as if it should only encompass planes with propellers! 
methinks you have strange standards for old-timey words that you feel are retro-cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 12:17:10
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I've signed up for a 6'x4' table - 24 tiles, and I'm going to be getting the rolling plains.
Does anyone in the UK or Spain who is getting the damaged or mixed urban want to swap 8 or 12 tiles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 12:59:02
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I hope they make it to ruined temple. A 4x4 area worth of those to mix in with the fields would be most excellent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 13:42:38
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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rifles66 wrote:Just to update this - Malifaux have just announced v2 beta and pre-measuring will be allowed.
This pleases me greatly, thanks for that
I'm leaning towards going for the ruined temple if we get it and the rolling fields, 8 tiles of each, to use for Malifaux, then expand later when the boards hits the market for games that require bigger boards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 21:04:05
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fixture of Dakka
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KR Multicase - TABLESCAPES BAGS!
Update #35 · May 1, 2013 · 1 comment
One of the many things I've been keeping mum about are fancy new bag options from Daryl at KR Multicase -- and I can now confirm that he has a card case option that is compatible with the tiles, and that the Kaiser system will work perfect to transport your tiles, models, AND terrain!
KRM-SWM is 4” deep so will hold 5 to 10 tiles depending on thickness (same style as the current card case range in the KR system)
K3-SWM is 12” deep so will hold 15 to 30 tiles depending on thickness (either in 3 card cases or out of them)
K4-SWM is 16” deep so will hold 20 to 40 tiles depending on thickness (either in 4 card cases or out of them) -- this is enough to fit two COMPLETE 16 tile sets AND your terrain!
Of course the K1 and K2 bags will also hold tiles (5-10 and 10-20 respectively) if you'd like a smaller bag for your Skirmisher board, or your display board and your army. KR has the options to make it work!
And what is this thing, you ask? Well, I'm happy to say that we're working on a compression bracket that will make the Tablescapes Tiles compatible with the new furniture line from KR Multicase!
Of course we still have a lot of things to work out -- such as getting Daryl a complete set of the terrain, and a giant stack of tiles so he can ensure they fit correctly -- which means the bags probably won't be available as an add-on item. BUT! They will be available and we're working together almost daily to ensure that they're going to be amazing.
Stay tuned....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/01 22:02:49
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So busy it hurts -- but to answer the question about shipping:
ALL pledges include international shipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/02 01:48:57
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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I think if perhaps you opened up 4 of the non river field tiles now we'd reach 200k a lot faster and fund the remainder of the rolling fields. You'd at least get some fantasy/historic players in for a 2x2 display board, which will snowball. Plus as the most generic tile, they would be more likely add on targets for people wanting to expand scrapyard, temple, fields, and eventually trench boards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/02 02:36:31
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Can we get a pic of all the Scrap Yard tiles? Like is shown for the other scapes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/02 02:42:02
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $160K+ "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Superior Stormvermin
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misterjustin wrote:So busy it hurts -- but to answer the question about shipping:
ALL pledges include international shipping.
Thank you for that confirmation!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/02 22:32:53
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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For those that have not heard,
The BF and KR cases will be available on a pledge manager after the KS ends (but still part of the overall deally)
This makes me super happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 03:29:59
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Secret Weapon 22 minutes ago
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF A PENDING OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT AN OFFICIAL... ah, you get the idea....
I'm off to bed, and I'm waiting for logos to come through to make everything official, but I can tell you now, that I will be telling you later, that Secret Weapon *WILL* be offering an official Deadzone compatible board!
DEADZONE BOARD - ANNOUNCEMENT INCOMING!
And so I'll leave you with that... because I spent today so excited that I'm exhausted!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 04:52:07
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I am amazed at my predictive powers! Automatically Appended Next Post: It's a good idea though. I think the sweet spot for cross-backers from Deadzone will be the $50 spot (2x2 board). I can see this bringing in a good number of smaller backers that will pump this up quite a bit. And I don't think he would need to design that many different boards for a Deadzone set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 13:44:58
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Phanobi
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I am torn now. Keep hoping that we get to the ruined temple set or go for a Deadzone one instead. Choices choices...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 16:32:39
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fixture of Dakka
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More from Justin in the Comments:
DEADZONE BOARD
I'm waiting on some new artwork so I can post the update to show you the 2x2' Display Board option. This will be the official Tablescapes: Deadzone set. We are also modifying the Urban Streets tiles to make it possible to measure the 3" squares using the sidewalk and foundation cement blocks. This is official, and will be officially licensed following the close of the campaign. Stay tuned....
FUTURE THEMES
Lots of folks seem to be wondering what happens to themes like Trench Works if they don't fund during this campaign. Don't worry - you'll have your Trench Works. Any theme that doesn't unlock during this campaign will still go into design. I might come back with another campaign and do things a little differently... but I want to get these pledges out first.
FANTASY THEMES
As this has come back around again I want to continue to let fantasy theme players know that the next two themes are for them. There's an even 3/3 split among the themes for sci-fi vs. fantasy Tablescapes, and I have more fantasy tables in the works. The first two themes are distinctly sci-fi, but the next two (Rolling Fields & Ruined Temple) are distinctly fantasy. You are not forgotten, and more fantasy themes are planned. Indeed, theme #7 is also fantasy... you just don't know about it yet.
DAMAGED STREETS BREAKDOWN
The breakdown will match the clean Urban Streets tiles, with some variation of course:
4 x Straight Road
2 x T Junction
2 x X Junction
6 x Foundation
2 x special feature
URBAN DISPLAY BOARD
I will make this available as separate clean and damaged displays - to keep with the popular demand for both options. Both display boards will offer two straight roads and two foundations -- so you have somewhere for both vehicles and buildings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 16:58:29
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
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Not to nitpick, but "scrapyard" "clean streets" and "broken streets" makes 3 Sci-fi themes, not 2.
Either way, I'm confident the last 18k needed to get me my rolling fields will come in, but unless the last 48 hours holds a massive influx of pledges, I wouldn't count on Ruined Temple happening this round.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 17:05:03
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Aerethan wrote:Not to nitpick, but "scrapyard" "clean streets" and "broken streets" makes 3 Sci-fi themes, not 2.
Either way, I'm confident the last 18k needed to get me my rolling fields will come in, but unless the last 48 hours holds a massive influx of pledges, I wouldn't count on Ruined Temple happening this round.
Let's not forget that originally, it was intended to just be "streets", with both damaged and clean being included in the one 16 tile set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 18:54:39
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Technically it is one SciFi set of 16 different tiles (8 clean, 8 destroyed), that can also be bought as 2x8 sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 18:59:52
Subject: Re:Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Fixture of Dakka
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There are 12 display boards 2'x2' left at the $50 price point. after that they will be $60 as SWM is adding a border piece to the display boards which has pushed up the price. The $50 sets will also get the border piece consider it an EB level now. The Deadzone board is consider to be a display board from what I can gather.
Existing backers can add the display board with border to their pledge for $54.
There will be a proper update with this information soon.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Artwork is not final and has just been made from the current render.
OFFICIAL - Deadzone Tablscapes
Update #37 · May 3, 2013 · 9 comments
There were rumors. There was whistling. Then there were announcements about upcoming announcements, and now... there is an official announcement!
We have officially partnered with Mantic Games to offer a four tile, 2x2' Display Board option for their sci-fi skirmish game: Deadzone.
You will now have the option to select "Deadzone" as a theme for your Display Board pledge or add-on item. This set will include four of our clean "Urban Streets" foundation tiles, selected by Ronnie Renton, and redesigned to make them fully compatible with the Deadzone rule system -- while still maintaining our original urban vision.
In addition we are now working with our factory to offer a border system for each of our Display Board sets -- and these will be included with your board. As I type this there are still a handful of the Early Bird pledge levels open at the Display Board level... but I don't expect them to last long. Of course you can get in on the open Display Board level, or add one to your existing pledge, without a worry.
We are very excited to be able to work with Mantic Games and bring this offer to the table -- no pun intended.
and from the comments
Creator Secret Weapon 16 minutes ago
And a quick comment to let folks know that we're still working on the foundation tile that will be included in the Deadzone set. The crew at Mantic will also be given a chance to provide input on the final design -- so we can all be happy with the finished product.
Creator Secret Weapon 7 minutes ago
All of our "Urban Streets" tiles will be compatible with Deadzone -- so you're good to go with a 4x6' Mini-Wargamer pledge and a honkin' big game of Deadzone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/03 20:49:43
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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Aw nuts, missed the early bird. Looks like there were only a dozen or so of them left when the DZ news went live.
Oh well, I'll definitely buy it at retail. Fantastic board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/04 00:13:09
Subject: Secret Weapon Tablescapes - Kickstarter now @ $180k "Damaged" Urban Streets Goal Reached!
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scarletsquig wrote:Aw nuts, missed the early bird. Looks like there were only a dozen or so of them left when the DZ news went live.
Oh well, I'll definitely buy it at retail. Fantastic board. 
Am I missing something? Is the design still TBD? I've been in at the Display Board level since the beginning (since I wanted a display board!) but I'm just seeing an 8x8 grid of bog standard 1.5" tiles here. I'd rather have the roll-up mat, frankly.
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